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(Some Overzealous Cleaner)   Cleaning tip: Before cleaning up a puddle on a museum floor, make sure it isn't a $1.1 million art installation   (acn.liveauctioneers.com) divider line 237
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2011-11-03 01:37:20 PM
if the cleaning staff can't tell the difference between a mess, and an art installation, and there was no protection around the installation preventing this from happening, then i don't think they cleaning lady is to blame.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2011-11-03 01:51:42 PM
If your "fine art" looks like a stain and can be wiped up with a sheet of Bounty then your art isn't all that fine.
 
2011-11-03 02:10:47 PM
www.showtimearabia.com

Cleaning woman?
 
2011-11-03 02:13:48 PM
"It is now impossible to return it to its original state," the spokeswoman said, adding that the damage had been discovered late last month and that the work had been on loan to the museum from a private collector.

Yeah, right. Just dump more paint of the same color underneath the "sculpture" and no one would be able to tell the difference.
 
2011-11-03 02:19:06 PM
vpb: If your "fine art" looks like a stain and can be wiped up with a sheet of Bounty then your art isn't all that fine.

Yup. It's lazy, uninspired product that's subsidized by people with too much money and need to be relieved of it. But I don't think that's such a bad thing.
 
2011-11-03 02:32:22 PM
reported: "It is now impossible to return it to its original state," the spokeswoman said, adding that the damage had been discovered late last month and that the work had been on loan to the museum from a private collector.

Yeah, right. Just dump more paint of the same color underneath the "sculpture" and no one would be able to tell the difference.


But then they won't be able to collect the insurance money, which is way more than they'd ever be able to sell it for in any condition.
 
2011-11-03 02:37:19 PM
Was it that woman's afterbirth who gave birth in a museum and called it art?

/didn't RTFA
 
2011-11-03 02:41:48 PM
"the Martin Kippenberger installation titled When It Starts Dripping From the Ceiling, which was valued by insurers at 800,000 euros ($1.1 million), she said.

The late contemporary master had created a tower of wooden slats under which a rubber trough was placed with a thin beige layer of paint representing dried rain water.

Taking it for an actual stain, the cleaner scrubbed the surface until it gleamed."

He created a 3D still-life of a real phenomenon. He didn't dump a pint of ice cream on the floor.
 
2011-11-03 02:50:17 PM
She didn't destroy a work of art. She metamorphically enhanced it into a new installation piece. If they slap some famous "artist's" name on it now, they can probably claim the joint creation is worth 3 times as much as the old, mundane one.

In fact, the very act of destruction is performance art on its own (if it's done by an AW instead of by a common laborer). They should sell tickets at 500 euros a pop to let people come in and watch the cleaning crew at work.

It ain't what you see that's the art - it's what the 'experts' say about it.
 
2011-11-03 02:54:02 PM
i1207.photobucket.com
Zuerst die Fuesse (Feet First)


"The wooden sculpture by the late German artist Martin Kippenberger depicts a frog about 130 centimetres high [51"] nailed to brown cross and holding a beer mug in one outstretched hand and an egg in another. ... Kippenberger's works have been shown at the Tate Modern and the Saatchi Gallery in London and at the Venice Biennale, and retrospectives are planned in Los Angeles and New York. ... Museum officials in the northern bilingual Alto Adige region near the Austrian border said the artist, who died in 1997, considered it a self-portrait illustrating human angst."
From: http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=409e5a8b-26ac-49ec-9c7 4-ac7119354ac9

"Martin Kippenberger (25 February 1953 in Dortmund - 7 March 1997 in Vienna) [age 44, cancer] was a German artist known for his extremely prolific output in a wide range of styles and media as well as his provocative, jocular and hard-drinking public persona. Kippenberger was "widely regarded as one of the most talented German artists of his generation,"[1] according to Roberta Smith of the New York Times."
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kippenberger
 
2011-11-03 02:54:55 PM
www.thelocal.de
 
2011-11-03 03:19:47 PM
See. This is why I draw hentai. My work may be filth but nobody has ever mistaken it for dirt.
 
2011-11-03 03:42:10 PM
dumass tag for a) the shamwow artist?; b) cleaning lady?; or c) the museum that was trying to prove how "trendy" it was for showing something that looked like a leaking roof?
 
2011-11-03 03:44:39 PM
Hmmm. What is Art™?
 
2011-11-03 03:46:49 PM
EnviroDude: dumass tag for a) the shamwow artist?; b) cleaning lady?; or c) the museum that was trying to prove how "trendy" it was for showing something that looked like a leaking roof?

d)
 
2011-11-03 05:03:05 PM
Who is more of a dumbass, the cleaner, or the curator that paid for that art?
 
2011-11-03 05:03:08 PM
vpb: If your "fine art" looks like a stain and can be wiped up with a sheet of Bounty then your art isn't all that fine.

Verily, this.
 
2011-11-03 05:06:52 PM
Have someone make another one, if you need one.

I can live without it.
 
2011-11-03 05:06:58 PM
FTA:
In 1986, a "grease stain" by Joseph Beuys valued at around 400,000 euros was mopped away at the Academy of Fine Arts in Duesseldorf, western Germany.

Man... I have towels in my kitchen worth 400,000 Euros!!
 
2011-11-03 05:07:04 PM
Negative. Start making art that doesn't look like it needs to be cleaned up.
 
2011-11-03 05:07:04 PM
Overzealous staffer cleaning lady. Nothing to see here.
 
2011-11-03 05:07:33 PM
I'm just sayin', nobody mistakes Van Gogh's stuff for a water stain or a car wreck...
 
2011-11-03 05:08:21 PM
If a random person can't tell the difference between your art and something that needs cleaned up, you don't deserve to be an artist anymore.

Even Jackson Pollock, king of the artists who make crap and call it ice cream, would at least put his mess on a canvas and hang it up on a wall.
 
2011-11-03 05:08:27 PM
Because People in power are Stupid: Hmmm. What is Art™?

If it's useless and has no purpose, then you know it's Art™.
 
2011-11-03 05:08:36 PM
www.thelocal.de

I'm pretty accepting of a wide variety of art "styles", but unintentional damage done to this piece of shiat is not worthy of INTERNATIONAL NEWS.
 
2011-11-03 05:09:19 PM
modern art is neither

/nuttin
 
2011-11-03 05:09:20 PM
If this were my art I would applaud the cleaning lady, add her as a co-artist, and double the price. Give her half.
 
2011-11-03 05:09:23 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-11-03 05:09:27 PM
babysimpson.co.uk

"If you can read this, you scrubbed too hard. -Grant Wood"
 
2011-11-03 05:09:30 PM
vpb: If your "fine art" looks like a stain and can be wiped up with a sheet of Bounty then your art isn't all that fine.

This.

Maybe one could call an art expert to testify in court and declare this was art... but opposing counsel could call a janitor as an expert on messes to testify that it is a mess.
 
2011-11-03 05:09:31 PM
1) Spend $100 and minimal time creating 'art' that looks like a mess
2) Insure said 'art' for $1.1m
3) Profit
 
2011-11-03 05:09:31 PM
Step 1: shiat on the floor and call it art
Step 2: insure masterpiece for 1 million
Step 3: Profit

Except I'm sure someone has already done this.
 
2011-11-03 05:09:33 PM
Step 1: Create artwork called "Bag of garbage"
Step 2: Insure for $1M
Step 3: Convince snooty museum to display "Bag of garbage"
Step 4: Now we wait.
Step 5: Profit!
 
2011-11-03 05:09:33 PM
oh, it's Germany.

that explains it.
 
2011-11-03 05:10:13 PM
Xenomech: [www.thelocal.de image 468x284]

I'm pretty accepting of a wide variety of art "styles", but unintentional damage done to this piece of shiat is not worthy of INTERNATIONAL NEWS.


You just don't understand the meaning, man.... here, smoke this.....
 
2011-11-03 05:10:55 PM
Who does the cleaning in Germany? Domestic or imported?
 
2011-11-03 05:11:06 PM
The late contemporary master had created a tower of wooden slats under which a rubber trough was placed with a thin beige layer of paint representing dried rain water.

What, exactly, does dried rain water look like?
 
2011-11-03 05:11:57 PM
vpb: If your "fine art" looks like a stain and can be wiped up with a sheet of Bounty then your art isn't all that fine.

Came to say this. I'm glad to see it was the second post.

Anyone that would pay $1.1 for a bucket of paint splashed onto wooden slats is a farking moran.
 
2011-11-03 05:12:00 PM
Mega_Doof: .

What, exactly, does dried rain water look like?


Apparently dry beige paint.
 
2011-11-03 05:12:33 PM
Mega_Doof: The late contemporary master had created a tower of wooden slats under which a rubber trough was placed with a thin beige layer of paint representing dried rain water.

What, exactly, does dried rain water look like?


It depends upon the message the rain was trying to convey about the state of man.
 
2011-11-03 05:12:43 PM
markie_farkie: [www.showtimearabia.com image 470x282]

Cleaning woman?



This is some of the finest art ever made. Love that farking movie.
 
2011-11-03 05:12:43 PM
vpb: If your "fine art" looks like a stain and can be wiped up with a sheet of Bounty then your art isn't all that fine.

This. shiatty art is shiatty.
 
2011-11-03 05:12:57 PM
Sunday afternoon there's something special
It's just like another world.
Jogging in the park is my excuse
To look at all the little girls.
I'm not a flasher in a rain coat,
I'm not a dirty old man,
I'm not gonna snatch you from your mother,
I'm an art lover.
Come to daddy,
Ah, come to daddy,
Come to daddy.
Pretty little legs, I want to draw them,
Like a Degas ballerina.
Pure white skin, like porcelain,
She's a work of art and I should know
I'm an art lover.
Come to daddy,
And I'll give you some spangles.
Little girl don't notice me
Watching as she innocently plays.
She can't see me staring at her
Because I'm always wearing shades.
She feeds the ducks, looks at the flowers.
I follow her around for hours and hours.
I'd take her home, but that could never be,
She's just a substitute
For what's been taken from me.
Ah, come to daddy, come on.
Sunday afternoon can't last forever,
Wish I could take you home.
So, come on, give us a smile
Before you vanish out of view.
I've learned to appreciate you
The way art lovers do,
And I only want to look at you.
 
2011-11-03 05:13:06 PM
Sounds like a high-end insurance swindle to me.
 
2011-11-03 05:13:14 PM
Grapple: FTA:
In 1986, a "grease stain" by Joseph Beuys valued at around 400,000 euros was mopped away at the Academy of Fine Arts in Duesseldorf, western Germany.

Man... I have towels in my kitchen worth 400,000 Euros!!


That's nothing... I could have paid off the national debt with what I've flushed down the toilet.
 
2011-11-03 05:13:22 PM
monkeybiscuit: Who does the cleaning in Germany? Domestic or imported?

Turks.
 
2011-11-03 05:13:30 PM
kingoomieiii: "the Martin Kippenberger installation titled When It Starts Dripping From the Ceiling, which was valued by insurers at 800,000 euros ($1.1 million), she said.

The late contemporary master had created a tower of wooden slats under which a rubber trough was placed with a thin beige layer of paint representing dried rain water.

Taking it for an actual stain, the cleaner scrubbed the surface until it gleamed."

He created a 3D still-life of a real phenomenon. He didn't dump a pint of ice cream on the floor.


farm5.static.flickr.com

Art.
 
2011-11-03 05:14:17 PM
The Slush

My first ever simulpost! And almost exactly the same thing.

Thank you Mr. Slush!
 
2011-11-03 05:14:25 PM
But don't include any stock photo's of the art in question jouranlist, no that would be too helpfull.
 
2011-11-03 05:14:47 PM
Xenomech: [www.thelocal.de image 468x284]

I'm pretty accepting of a wide variety of art "styles", but unintentional damage done to this piece of shiat is not worthy of INTERNATIONAL NEWS.


Nor is it worth 1.1 M Euros. I can insure anything for any amount of money. But that doesn't mean someone will actually pay it at market.
 
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