Riche: So, is THIS the excuse they're going to use to impeach Obama?

I think Obama should tell the house republicans to cram their subpoenas where the sun doesn't shine-- just like Bush did to house Democrats when they filed subpoenas demanding truthful info about evidence of WMD in Iraq, illegal wire tapping, and torture -- you know, stuff that actually MATTERED.

If Bush established the precedent of ignoring congressional subpoenas, the Republicans should have to deal with it.

Considering, of course that this Solyndra deal actually originated in the Bush White House, there is some karmic justice to that.

Skleenar: Considering, of course that this Solyndra deal actually originated in the Bush White House, there is some karmic justice to that.

Well, then let the documents flow. That should make for some hilarity.

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Skleenar: Riche: So, is THIS the excuse they're going to use to impeach Obama?

I think Obama should tell the house republicans to cram their subpoenas where the sun doesn't shine-- just like Bush did to house Democrats when they filed subpoenas demanding truthful info about evidence of WMD in Iraq, illegal wire tapping, and torture -- you know, stuff that actually MATTERED.

If Bush established the precedent of ignoring congressional subpoenas, the Republicans should have to deal with it.

Considering, of course that this Solyndra deal actually originated in the Bush White House, there is some karmic justice to that.

Solyndra was the first loan approved after the loan program was re-structured by Obama's ARAA. This is all on Obama's White House.

It appears that someone in the White House may have improperly influenced a grant of $500m. That's not patronage. That's worth an investigation.

Giving away our $ to connected grantees when they don't merit it is illegal. Here there's a little evidence, but not much yet. Nothing to tie anybody of significance to yet. May be nothing there, may be some mid-level political though he was doing his boss a favor (this happens all the time; if you ever get power, watch out for syncophants). Worth a look.

The Dog Ate The Constitution: This is all on Obama's White House.

Not relevant which administration started this. Was the law broken? If so, by whom? $500m is a lot to lose.

Grandstanding for a headline. See: ratfncking.

Not news: Stuff was approved by Bush and Republican congress before Obama's election.
Fark: By the same committee members conducting the investigation.

Skleenar: Riche: So, is THIS the excuse they're going to use to impeach Obama?

I think Obama should tell the house republicans to cram their subpoenas where the sun doesn't shine-- just like Bush did to house Democrats when they filed subpoenas demanding truthful info about evidence of WMD in Iraq, illegal wire tapping, and torture -- you know, stuff that actually MATTERED.

If Bush established the precedent of ignoring congressional subpoenas, the Republicans should have to deal with it.

Considering, of course that this Solyndra deal actually originated in the Bush White House, there is some karmic justice to that.

^^^ this

Riche: If Bush established the precedent of ignoring congressional subpoenas, the Republicans should have to deal with it.

GW had the invulnerable shield of "National Security" to hide behind. this solyndra thing does not.

I liked how earlier this week when one guy said that it started under the Bush admin and said the DOJ didn't know the details the Republicans used it as "proof" Obama was behind it all.

This could have been prevented:

FTFA: "the subpoenas are necessary because the White House has denied or delayed requests for thousands of documents related to Solyndra."

r1chard3: By the same committee members conducting the investigation.

BS: Congress doesn't approve specific program grants. They do earmarks, and this isn't one of them. Come on, at least have a clue about what you're talking about.

It doesn't matter when the program originated or when the grant application was filed. What matters is how the decision to approve the grant was made. If it was made properly, then it's too bad about the $. Did political pressure result in the grant officer making a decision to approve a grant that otherwise wouldn't have been approved? Somebody needs a spanking.

Man On Fire: Riche: If Bush established the precedent of ignoring congressional subpoenas, the Republicans should have to deal with it.

GW had the invulnerable shield of "National Security" to hide behind. this solyndra thing does not.

So you are saying that energy policy and development has no "National Security" implications?
Don't think that dog will hunt so Dick Cheney will have to shoot it in the face from his man sized safe.

r1chard3: Not news: Stuff was approved by Bush and Republican congress before Obama's election.
Fark: By the same committee members conducting the investigation.

Hey, when Bush was doing it, it was to help small businesses. When Obama is doing it, it's to Socialism America.

Corvus: I liked how earlier this week when one guy said that it started under the Bush admin and said the DOJ didn't know the details the Republicans used it as "proof" Obama was behind it all.

Oh sorry I was talking about Fast and Furious the other BS GOP made up controversy.

Weaver95: is the GOP really sure they want to go after the white house for political patronage? thats the sort of thing that could hit EVERYONE in D.C.

And that is bad how?

this is all they got!
weak

what ga gonna do? what ga gonna do?
when Issa the criminal is coming after to you.?

Cat Food Sandwiches: This could have been prevented:

FTFA: "the subpoenas are necessary because the White House has denied or delayed requests for thousands of documents related to Solyndra."

Quote war!

FTFA: White House spokesman Eric Schultz said the Obama administration was disappointed in the GOP vote, adding that committee leaders have "refused to discuss their requests with us in good faith," instead choosing "a partisan route, proceeding with subpoenas that are unprecedented and unwarranted."

Schultz said the administration has "cooperated extensively" with the committee's investigation by producing more than 85,000 pages of documents, including 20,000 pages produced Wednesday. Administration officials also have participated in multiple briefings and hearings on Solyndra, he said.

But I'm sure whatever the GOP is looking for will bring Obama down. They should keep on this track. That's the only way to help this country.

Skleenar: Riche: So, is THIS the excuse they're going to use to impeach Obama?

I think Obama should tell the house republicans to cram their subpoenas where the sun doesn't shine-- just like Bush did to house Democrats when they filed subpoenas demanding truthful info about evidence of WMD in Iraq, illegal wire tapping, and torture -- you know, stuff that actually MATTERED.

If Bush established the precedent of ignoring congressional subpoenas, the Republicans should have to deal with it.

Considering, of course that this Solyndra deal actually originated in the Bush White House, there is some karmic justice to that.


Yeah, but the big difference is the Bush administration denied them funding.

/Not white-knighting the bastard, but get your facts straight.
//If there is wrong doing, then yeah, get the pitchforks out.
///If this is legit, oh well, we waste more money than that on crap that has no possible future benefit.

Car_Ramrod: Cat Food Sandwiches: This could have been prevented:

FTFA: "the subpoenas are necessary because the White House has denied or delayed requests for thousands of documents related to Solyndra."

Quote war!

FTFA: White House spokesman Eric Schultz said the Obama administration was disappointed in the GOP vote, adding that committee leaders have "refused to discuss their requests with us in good faith," instead choosing "a partisan route, proceeding with subpoenas that are unprecedented and unwarranted."

Schultz said the administration has "cooperated extensively" with the committee's investigation by producing more than 85,000 pages of documents, including 20,000 pages produced Wednesday. Administration officials also have participated in multiple briefings and hearings on Solyndra, he said.

But I'm sure whatever the GOP is looking for will bring Obama down. They should keep on this track. That's the only way to help this country.

Can't you just rise above partisanship? If laws were broken and our money squandered, we have a right to know about it.

Corvus: Corvus: I liked how earlier this week when one guy said that it started under the Bush admin and said the DOJ didn't know the details the Republicans used it as "proof" Obama was behind it all.

Oh sorry I was talking about Fast and Furious the other BS GOP made up controversy.

Those dead border agents are made up?

moanerific: Skleenar: Riche: So, is THIS the excuse they're going to use to impeach Obama?

I think Obama should tell the house republicans to cram their subpoenas where the sun doesn't shine-- just like Bush did to house Democrats when they filed subpoenas demanding truthful info about evidence of WMD in Iraq, illegal wire tapping, and torture -- you know, stuff that actually MATTERED.

If Bush established the precedent of ignoring congressional subpoenas, the Republicans should have to deal with it.

Considering, of course that this Solyndra deal actually originated in the Bush White House, there is some karmic justice to that.


Yeah, but the big difference is the Bush administration denied them funding.

/Not white-knighting the bastard, but get your facts straight.
//If there is wrong doing, then yeah, get the pitchforks out.
///If this is legit, oh well, we waste more money than that on crap that has no possible future benefit.

Honest question, can you cite where they denied them funding? I know very little, if anything, of the Bush administration's connection to this, but I've found several articles like this one from March 2008 where it outlines funding by the Energy Department into various projects, including:

University of Florida with Global Solar Energy, International Solar Electric Technology, Nanosolar and Solyndra: Routes for rapid synthesis of CIGS absorbers.

Nuclear plants: 8 BILLION in Federal Guaranteed loans.
Oil Companies: Billions in subsidies - pay no taxes.

Solar plants: 500 Million in Guaranteed loan

GOP take: OBAMA'S FAVORING HIS SOLAR POWER BUDDIES!!!

What a joke. If this is a problem then LETS GET RID OF ALL SUBSIDIES INCLUDING THE ONES FOR OIL AND NUCLEAR!!!

Cat Food Sandwiches: Car_Ramrod: Cat Food Sandwiches: This could have been prevented:

FTFA: "the subpoenas are necessary because the White House has denied or delayed requests for thousands of documents related to Solyndra."

Quote war!

FTFA: White House spokesman Eric Schultz said the Obama administration was disappointed in the GOP vote, adding that committee leaders have "refused to discuss their requests with us in good faith," instead choosing "a partisan route, proceeding with subpoenas that are unprecedented and unwarranted."

Schultz said the administration has "cooperated extensively" with the committee's investigation by producing more than 85,000 pages of documents, including 20,000 pages produced Wednesday. Administration officials also have participated in multiple briefings and hearings on Solyndra, he said.

But I'm sure whatever the GOP is looking for will bring Obama down. They should keep on this track. That's the only way to help this country.

Can't you just rise above partisanship? If laws were broken and our money squandered, we have a right to know about it.



So, the Obama administration cooperates and provides 85,000 documents, including 25,000 just yesterday, as well as participating in meeting and hearings, and Republicans still claim they're being obstructionist. Me pointing that out is partisan?

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The White House should respond by releasing all documents tying the Solyndra deal to Bush, and throw in a copy of Obama's long-form birth certificate.

If I were him, I would just attach a copy of it to anything I sent to a Republican. For the rest of his presidency.

The Dog Ate The Constitution: Corvus: Corvus: I liked how earlier this week when one guy said that it started under the Bush admin and said the DOJ didn't know the details the Republicans used it as "proof" Obama was behind it all.

Oh sorry I was talking about Fast and Furious the other BS GOP made up controversy.

Those dead border agents are made up?

Nope but the idea Obama masterminded the whole thing so he could crack down on gun laws - a program started under the Bush admin. More Obama is guilty for getting into a time machine and forcing things started under Bush.

So GOP.. .Do we vote for you now?

PanicMan: LouDobbsAwaaaay: The White House should respond by releasing all documents tying the Solyndra deal to Bush, and throw in a copy of Obama's long-form birth certificate.

If I were him, I would just attach a copy of it to anything I sent to a Republican. For the rest of his presidency.

That would be utterly amazing.

Skleenar:

If Bush established the precedent of ignoring congressional subpoenas, the Republicans should have to deal with it.

Considering, of course that this Solyndra deal actually originated and was rejected by the Bush White House, there is some karmic justice to that.

ftfy.

So, the GOP has officially gone from "we can win 2012!" to "ah, fark it, make shiat up and see if it'll stick."

The White House should respond by releasing all documents tying the Solyndra deal to Bush, and throw in a copy of Obama's long-form birth certificate.

Very much this. The loan process dates back to 2004. There should be lots and lots of documents to produce.

Car_Ramrod: So, the Obama administration cooperates and provides 85,000 documents, including 25,000 just yesterday, as well as participating in meeting and hearings, and Republicans still claim they're being obstructionist. Me pointing that out is partisan?

Yes because they can find no evidence of their BS conspiracy , to the GOP No proof means there must be a cover up.

Remember Issa said he would have investigations to make Obama look bad not matter if he had done anything or not.

Corvus: Fast and Furious the other BS GOP made up controversy.

This is what liberals actually believe.

Car_Ramrod:

So, the Obama administration cooperates and provides 85,000 documents, including 25,000 just yesterday, as well as participating in meeting and hearings, and Republicans still claim they're being obstructionist. Me pointing that out is partisan?

yes, it is.

some documents are more damaging than others.

having the potential wrong doers get to chose which documents they release is stupid. Don't be such a partisan hack.