How could there be a precuel? The novel covers pretty much everything important from their entire lives...

"Watchmen" prequel plans will leave you blue in the face, penis.

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Yeah if Alan Moore's not writing it, I'm not reading it. Next.

Honest Bender: How could there be a precuel? The novel covers pretty much everything important from their entire lives...

Hah! You think this is going to have a story. I fully expect this prequel to be directed by Michael Bay.

IrateShadow: Honest Bender: How could there be a precuel? The novel covers pretty much everything important from their entire lives...

Hah! You think this is going to have a story. I fully expect this prequel to be directed by Michael Bay.

Blue-colored explosions and gratuitous nudity would be the next frontier for Michael Bay.

They just blew Dr. Manhattan's mind.

i'm wearing my "I [squid] NY" t-shirt today, so i'm totally getting a kick ...

IrateShadow: Honest Bender: How could there be a precuel? The novel covers pretty much everything important from their entire lives...

Hah! You think this is going to have a story. I fully expect this prequel to be directed by Michael Bay.

I wonder if they'll write these so that the plot will be easily transferable to a big-budget movie later on.

Watchmen 2: The Baysplosioning

They should totally get David Cross to play Dr. Manhattan for this one.

guitardedx69: Yeah if Alan Moore's not writing it, I'm not reading it. Next.

There's nothing more about this story that needs to be told.

carrion_luggage: Who will preview the previewers?

Idunno... Coast guard?

I wish they'd devote there energies to getting more episodes of the Watchmen cartoon of f the ground.

This is pretty much in line with how DC has always treated its properties. What a lot of people are forgetting is that DC asked Frank Miller to do the same thing with HIS legendary superhero comic from the 1980s (The Dark Knight Returns), resulting in the horrid abomination that was DK2. For which Miller was apparently paid $1 million to create. And which flopped because none of the fans of the original wanted anything to do with it.

But don't worry. DC has never been big on listening to its constituent audience, so this will likely go forward. And 10 years from now, they'll be doing something stupid with Sandman or Fables.

Sarcastica75: And they put one of my favorites at the helm of it, too. Darwyn Cooke is teh awesome. So to clarify my initial post: I hate you, DC Comics.

That said, if anyone can do a period piece and do it well, it's Darwyn.

/Love The New Frontier
//The Parker books RULE.

Honest Bender: How could there be a precuel? The novel covers pretty much everything important from their entire lives...

I was assuming they'd be prequels in the sense that they happen before the present time of the original story, not necessarily before everything that happens in the Watchmen universe. I'm guessing it'll be more like "the further adventures of the Watchmen," and fill in a lot of the gaps in time that are only alluded to in the original work. This, of course, is dumb and contrary to the spirit of the original, but I could also see it making a few bucks for all those involved.

secularsage: This is pretty much in line with how DC has always treated its properties. What a lot of people are forgetting is that DC asked Frank Miller to do the same thing with HIS legendary superhero comic from the 1980s (The Dark Knight Returns), resulting in the horrid abomination that was DK2. For which Miller was apparently paid $1 million to create. And which flopped because none of the fans of the original wanted anything to do with it.

But don't worry. DC has never been big on listening to its constituent audience, so this will likely go forward. And 10 years from now, they'll be doing something stupid with Sandman or Fables.

I think DK2's flopping had more to do with the work Miller turned in than it had to do with fan outrage with revisiting that story.

Well as long as they stay true to the source material, but include more tits, more rape, and more big blue cock.

Darth_Lukecash: Sarcastica75: I hate you, DC.

Why?

They waited for 25 freakin' years before doing anything with the properties. Which they own.

Looking back on it- Moore is nothing more than a big baby who never learned to deal with people.

He is a huge baby. I mean look at his response to when one of the producers of the V for Vendetta movie when one of the producers mistakenly said that another producer had spoken to Moore and that he was excited about what they were doing. Now most people would just say that it was a mistake and the conversation never happened, but he was going around demanding retractions from the movie studios and DC.

not outraged.

Lots of universe to flesh out, and a prequel will be less damaging then tacking on a sequel to the book.

Besides I am fairly sure reading it will be optional.

FTFA: "If you have the talent why not use it to create something new rather than riding on someone else's coat tails? "

If you could get someone remix, sample, dub, or autotune that question, you would have your answer.

/blue

Darth_Lukecash: Sarcastica75: I hate you, DC.

Why?

They waited for 25 freakin' years before doing anything with the properties. Which they own.

Looking back on it- Moore is nothing more than a big baby who never learned to deal with people.


Just because something is legal doesn't necessarily mean it's something that should be done, or isn't ridiculous. There's nothing wrong with her hating DC for doing this. You want to know why? RTFA. He lays out a few good reasons.

texdent: Next thing you know they'll somehow incorporate Watchmen into the new DC universe.


Don't be giving them any worse ideas than they already have!!


mechgreg: He is a huge baby. I mean look at his response to when one of the producers of the V for Vendetta movie when one of the producers mistakenly said that another producer had spoken to Moore and that he was excited about what they were doing. Now most people would just say that it was a mistake and the conversation never happened, but he was going around demanding retractions from the movie studios and DC.


His reaction was reasonable. He's vehemently against film adaptions of his creations, and has been for a long, long time. If one of the producers of V claimed that he was not only supportive but actually excited about it then that wasn't a simple mistake, it was a blatant lie about something that the producers damn well would know he felt strongly about. I'd want a retraction too.

mongbiohazard: mechgreg: He is a huge baby. I mean look at his response to when one of the producers of the V for Vendetta movie when one of the producers mistakenly said that another producer had spoken to Moore and that he was excited about what they were doing. Now most people would just say that it was a mistake and the conversation never happened, but he was going around demanding retractions from the movie studios and DC.


His reaction was reasonable. He's vehemently against film adaptions of his creations, and has been for a long, long time. If one of the producers of V claimed that he was not only supportive but actually excited about it then that wasn't a simple mistake, it was a blatant lie about something that the producers damn well would know he felt strongly about. I'd want a retraction too.

If he hates film adaptions so much then explain why he let a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie be produced. Of all the Moore movies I have seen, that was by far the worst one. And Alan Moore actually owns the rights to League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

mechgreg: mongbiohazard: mechgreg: He is a huge baby. I mean look at his response to when one of the producers of the V for Vendetta movie when one of the producers mistakenly said that another producer had spoken to Moore and that he was excited about what they were doing. Now most people would just say that it was a mistake and the conversation never happened, but he was going around demanding retractions from the movie studios and DC.


His reaction was reasonable. He's vehemently against film adaptions of his creations, and has been for a long, long time. If one of the producers of V claimed that he was not only supportive but actually excited about it then that wasn't a simple mistake, it was a blatant lie about something that the producers damn well would know he felt strongly about. I'd want a retraction too.

If he hates film adaptions so much then explain why he let a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie be produced. Of all the Moore movies I have seen, that was by far the worst one. And Alan Moore actually owns the rights to League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Not to mention he let them use his stuff in the latest GLC cartoon movie and actually liked the Justice League episode based off "For the Man Who has Everything."

skyotter: "Do you seriously think we'd explain the prequel if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? We made it 35 years ago."

Oh I get it, its like the line in the funny book.


(okay so it was funny)

Darth_Lukecash: Considering 99% of Moore's work is derivitive-that's rich.

Whatever you think about Alan Moore, calling something derivative because it a) uses characters that already exist and/or b) something in the story has happened before doesn't make a lot of sense.

In the case of existing characters, I guess this depends on whether or not you think comics are generally "derivative" or not, because this happens all the time. Writer A establishes a character. Writer B is brought in continue (or in some cases reinvent) the character's narrative. Just because the character has the same name doesn't mean the story is the same or the writer's take on that character's motivations is the same. A prime example is Alan Moore's run on Swamp Thing.

As for the "well it's happened before so therefore any retelling of an event is derivative and of no value", well, if you believe that, okay. But pretty much everything ever has been covered by someone somewhere before you. Most stories have basic elements in common; the art is in the telling and the style.

I suspect your beef is with Alan Moore, who by all accounts is a weirdo and exceedingly unlikeable, and his fans, who like all fanboys are annoying. Those are legitimate, but I don't think it extends to his product, or at least not to Watchmen, which is IMHO a genuinely worthy work.

P.S. On the matter of the "Rorschach = The Question", it's technically "Rorschach = The Question + Mr. A", which is quite different than The Question, who has since appeared in separate DC titles and is quite good.

Adding Mr. A (a weird Objectivist psycho who ran around dropping people off of buildings while wearing a creepy gold mask) to the equation gave the Rorschach character a level of independence from his ancestor characters that made him a unique creation, FWIW.

Cagey B: Darth_Lukecash: Considering 99% of Moore's work is derivitive-that's rich.

Whatever you think about Alan Moore, calling something derivative because it a) uses characters that already exist and/or b) something in the story has happened before doesn't make a lot of sense.

In the case of existing characters, I guess this depends on whether or not you think comics are generally "derivative" or not, because this happens all the time. Writer A establishes a character. Writer B is brought in continue (or in some cases reinvent) the character's narrative. Just because the character has the same name doesn't mean the story is the same or the writer's take on that character's motivations is the same. A prime example is Alan Moore's run on Swamp Thing.

As for the "well it's happened before so therefore any retelling of an event is derivative and of no value", well, if you believe that, okay. But pretty much everything ever has been covered by someone somewhere before you. Most stories have basic elements in common; the art is in the telling and the style.

I suspect your beef is with Alan Moore, who by all accounts is a weirdo and exceedingly unlikeable, and his fans, who like all fanboys are annoying. Those are legitimate, but I don't think it extends to his product, or at least not to Watchmen, which is IMHO a genuinely worthy work.

P.S. On the matter of the "Rorschach = The Question", it's technically "Rorschach = The Question + Mr. A", which is quite different than The Question, who has since appeared in separate DC titles and is quite good.

Adding Mr. A (a weird Objectivist psycho who ran around dropping people off of buildings while wearing a creepy gold mask) to the equation gave the Rorschach character a level of independence from his ancestor characters that made him a unique creation, FWIW.

These are fair criticisms of Moore (He is unlikeable. He is a weirdo, his fans won't accept criticisms etc)

But that said, the man can write.

Pyynk: That said, if anyone can do a period piece and do it well, it's Darwyn.

/Love The New Frontier


^ThysThis

As long as the prequel is a detailed, in-depth exploration of the heroic, bon-vivant life, loves and lead-up to the tragic death of The Silhouette, I'm okay with that.

Or wait...

...No, I think I just want more Apollonia Vanova. _{(GIS for yourself)}

Sarcastica75: FirstNationalBastard: Sarcastica75: I hate you, DC.

Yet like an abused spouse, you'll keep going back, swearing they've changed, and that those black eyes mean they really care.

Yeeeah.

/in the voice of Rory.

That addendum alone makes you awesome.

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