Thanks Steve!

The other day I heard a guy on the radio say "Steve Jobs is the Thomas Edison of our times."

Anyone who thinks this is pants on the head retarded. Edison invented world altering inventions from scratch. Jobs was a brilliant business man who took other peoples ideas, repackaged them, and made a ton of money.

That isn't even close to the same.

Shigeru Miyamoto would like to have a word with these pollsters.

"Steve Jobs is the most influential man in _______"

Just insert whatever you like, he was apparently humanity's most influential person EVER.

I'm going with Beanie Babies.

BRICK, people! The man invented BRICK!

s1ugg0: The other day I heard a guy on the radio say "Steve Jobs is the Thomas Edison of our times."

Anyone who thinks this is pants on the head retarded. Edison invented world altering inventions from scratch. Jobs was a brilliant business man who took other peoples ideas, repackaged them, and made a ton of money.

That isn't even close to the same.

Well, that isn't too far from Edison really.

bemis23: Shigeru Miyamoto would like to have a word with these pollsters.

Also, Carmack, Meier, Garriot, Wright, and Kojima are honorable mentions.

bemis23: s1ugg0: The other day I heard a guy on the radio say "Steve Jobs is the Thomas Edison of our times."

Anyone who thinks this is pants on the head retarded. Edison invented world altering inventions from scratch. Jobs was a brilliant business man who took other peoples ideas, repackaged them, and made a ton of money.

That isn't even close to the same.

Well, that isn't too far from Edison really.

There's just a paper trail this time around.

s1ugg0: The other day I heard a guy on the radio say "Steve Jobs is the Thomas Edison of our times."

Anyone who thinks this is pants on the head retarded. Edison invented world altering inventions from scratch. Jobs was a brilliant business man who took other peoples ideas, repackaged them, and made a ton of money.

That isn't even close to the same.

Edison didn't invent anything from scratch. And I was under the impression that most of his patents were done by his employees, who had contracted away their rights to said patents.

Beerguy: [m.globedia.com image 600x523]

Would like a word about the whole "most influential man in gaming" thing.

+1 I'm not sure how I left Newell off my list above.

Tebow > Steve Jobs

s1ugg0: The other day I heard a guy on the radio say "Steve Jobs is the Thomas Edison of our times."

Anyone who thinks this is pants on the head retarded. Edison invented world altering inventions from scratch. Jobs was a brilliant business man who took other peoples ideas, repackaged them, and made a ton of money.

That isn't even close to the same.

10/10
Well done

bemis23

Well, that isn't too far from Edison really.


Thank you.

Making Steve Wozniak help you assemble the boards for Breakout machines at your night job at Atari so you can pocket the bonus for Wozniak's reductionist design has to count for something.

Beerguy: [m.globedia.com image 600x523]

Would like a word about the whole "most influential man in gaming" thing.

Half Life 2 was boring.

i'm siding with Jobs on his initial disinterest in putting games on the iphone, they aren't really all that fun

sprawl15: Beerguy: [m.globedia.com image 600x523]

Would like a word about the whole "most influential man in gaming" thing.

Half Life 2 was boring.

*throws down his gloves*

C64 - 524,000 games
Apple ii - 5 games

Ibm/clone - 60000 games
Mac - 2 games.

That's how I remember it.

/Onion belted

As for video gaming products -- I think the Magnavox Odyssey, Fairchild Channel F (first cartridge games I think), Atari 2600, Nintendo Entertainment System, GameBoy all rank up there. That's not to say that the iPhone hasn't made a huge impact on the game industry. It certainly has. But if it weren't for the above list (as well as home computer advances), the game industry wouldn't' be where it is today.

Most influential man in the gaming industry? Damn. Steve Jobs wrote DirectX and OpenGL... who knew?

bemis23: Well, that isn't too far from Edison really.

Dude... don't. You'll just get the anti-Apple cultists following you around and being annoying. Just nod, smile and bite your tongue about it. Most people don't know anything more about Edison than they learned in the US equivalent of primary school.

s1ugg0: The other day I heard a guy on the radio say "Steve Jobs is the Thomas Edison of our times."

Anyone who thinks this is pants on the head retarded. Edison invented world altering inventions from scratch. Jobs was a brilliant business man who took other peoples ideas, repackaged them, and made a ton of money.

That isn't even close to the same.

You should really read up on what you're spewing before you do. Edison didn't invent his stuff 'from scratch' either. Like Jobs, he took what was already invented by somebody else, and made them useful to the average person.

moralpanic: s1ugg0: The other day I heard a guy on the radio say "Steve Jobs is the Thomas Edison of our times."

Anyone who thinks this is pants on the head retarded. Edison invented world altering inventions from scratch. Jobs was a brilliant business man who took other peoples ideas, repackaged them, and made a ton of money.

That isn't even close to the same.

You should really read up on what you're spewing before you do. Edison didn't invent his stuff 'from scratch' either. Like Jobs, he took what was already invented by somebody else, and made them useful to the average person.

And killed anyone who got in his way.

sprawl15: Beerguy: [m.globedia.com image 600x523]

Would like a word about the whole "most influential man in gaming" thing.

Half Life 2 was boring.

That totally undid all his contributions, including bring mods support that brought success to Team Fortress and Counter-Strike, as well as revolutionary game design like the original Half-Life that is still being copied today and mega successful digital delivery and community system like Steam.

TFA: The London Games Conference is a small event that that is heavily focused on the digital, social, cloud, and iOS/Android side of gaming.

So, mobile phone games, then... which are to video games what flag football is to the NFL. In that context, I can completely understand these absurd results.

AdamK: i'm siding with Jobs on his initial disinterest in putting games on the iphone, they aren't really all that fun

I think tablets/phones can make good games machine. The problem is the type of games people are busy porting to them, because frankly trying to control a car/space ship by wiggling a virtual stick around or worse throwing the device around is... to quote the Boobies in this thread: pants on head retarded.

Now a nice CCG? Mmmmmm. I kind of thought Games Workshop would have had a WH40k turn based thing out by now for these things as well. Bit of micro-transaction action for different 'blister packs' of units beyond the starting army(ies). Throw in an army painter type thing and some on-line play...

But no, I see no attraction in racing games on my iPad and shiat like Tiny Towers (yes, I've tried it) just pisses me off.

Oh look, another Jobs thread..

thismomentinblackhistory: I had a biopsy 7 days ago. Turns out I have cancer, but not the kind people feel sorry for you for having, just some moles. I never tan and I don't even have that many moles. The dermatologist said they needed to come off. So, I made an appointment, she numbed me up and lopped off the little farkers. I'm supposed to go back in 6 months for a check-up.

I didn't go on some vegan diet.

BECAUSE I AM SMARTER THAN STEVE JOBS.

Equating skin cancer to pancreatic cancer shows you are, in fact, not smarter than Steve Jobs.

So, if Steve Jobs is the most influential man in the gaming industry, and Steam forced Apple to update the iOS video card drivers, doesn't that mean that Gabe Newell is more influential by default?

Benni K Rok: So, if Steve Jobs is the most influential man in the gaming industry, and Steam forced Apple to update the iOS video card drivers, doesn't that mean that Gabe Newell is more influential by default?

He's [Gabe Newell] watching you isn't he?

/Not even Valve could get Apple to fix OS X's broken OpenGL stack.

meatofmystery: Oh look, another Jobs thread..

Not so much. We've done Jobs, laughed at the OP's headline and seem to be pissing all over how crap mobile games are... depending on which conversation you're reading.

Best song of all time, according to a CKLW listener survey in the mid 70s?

Kung Fu Fighting.

sarah_t_s: Benni K Rok: So, if Steve Jobs is the most influential man in the gaming industry, and Steam forced Apple to update the iOS video card drivers, doesn't that mean that Gabe Newell is more influential by default?

He's [Gabe Newell] watching you isn't he?

/Not even Valve could get Apple to fix OS X's broken OpenGL stack.

The only way to fix that little problem is to rebuild specific parts of the backbone of the OS, so it's not ever going to happen.

Oh cool, another Apple thread! Let's see how many butthurt haters show up this time.

Smartphone gaming sucks on a touch screen. No tactile response, so any games that require pinpoint precision -- Megaman, Contra are near unplayable. Yeah, Angry Birds works and other watered-down games, but it ends there. However, RPGs are glorious on it!

s2s2s2: BRICK, people! The man invented BRICK!

Where would all those Blackberry users be without him and Woz?



/Mostly Woz, who got screwed out of the bonus by Steve

God, can we just stop with the farking hero-worship of Steve Jobs already?

There's no denying he was good at what he did (repurposing other peoples' ideas into nice consumer products), but you'd think he was farking Ghandi or Jesus or something. He wasn't a particularly nice person, and he didn't do much to truly make peoples' lives better. At least Bill Gates has dedicated his life to giving back to people. Hell, even George Lucas has done more to directly benefit people through charitable giving than Steve Jobs ever did.

It's particularly bad in the marketing and advertising circuit, because all of these nitwits saw Steve Jobs as a trending topic a couple of weeks ago and assume that if they assign his name to everything, they'll get more attention.

s2s2s2: BRICK, people! The man invented BRICK!



/hot like a brick oven

Masso: sprawl15: Beerguy: [m.globedia.com image 600x523]

Would like a word about the whole "most influential man in gaming" thing.

Half Life 2 was boring.

That totally undid all his contributions, including bring mods support that brought success to Team Fortress and Counter-Strike, as well as revolutionary game design like the original Half-Life that is still being copied today and mega successful digital delivery and community system like Steam.

Pretty much this. Valve had a lot of throw in the industry now, due to massive success of Steam, and the innovative game design we see in things like portal, L4d, and the half life series. the are probabaly the most powerful PC gaming company there is today.

On the console side things are more hairy.

Off the top of my head, guys that are more influential than Jobs in the field of gaming:

Johnathan Wendel (Fatal1ty)- most famous gamer in America (... and KC native)
John Carmack- Founder of id Software, father of the modern FPS (... and KC area native)
Gabe Newell- Founder of Valve, father of viable modern content distribution.
Sid Meier- Civilization
Will Wright- guy founded Maxis, which made the Sim City and Sims series games
Bill Gates- ran the company with the most open hardware specs that drove PC gaming; chairman of the company that makes the Xbox

Fark, even Douchebag-In-Command Bobby Kotick is more influential than Jobs.

/yes I'm from KC and a gaming nerd

bemis23: Shigeru Miyamoto would like to have a word with these pollsters.

Came here to say that.

Antimatter: Masso: sprawl15: Beerguy: [m.globedia.com image 600x523]

Would like a word about the whole "most influential man in gaming" thing.

Half Life 2 was boring.

That totally undid all his contributions, including bring mods support that brought success to Team Fortress and Counter-Strike, as well as revolutionary game design like the original Half-Life that is still being copied today and mega successful digital delivery and community system like Steam.

Pretty much this. Valve had a lot of throw in the industry now, due to massive success of Steam, and the innovative game design we see in things like portal, L4d, and the half life series. the are probabaly the most powerful PC gaming company there is today.

On the console side things are more hairy.

Robert Kotick has more power but anybody who even attempts to say he has a positive influence in the gaming industry or that he "invented" anything will get a swift cockpunch.

Benni K Rok:
The only way to fix that little problem is to rebuild specific parts of the backbone of the OS, so it's not ever going to happen.

I know I know. But since when has been aware of the facts around an issue ever stopped someone from whining about it? OS X's OGL performance is my whine. Yes, I'll have some cheese with it.

Influential lists are incomplete without Meretzky (I will also accept Leblung)

You can play games on the iPhone? Can it play Dead Island, Sky Rim, Arkham City, or Dead Rising 2:Off The Record? No? How about Knights of the Old Republic? No. Then what use is it?

Marine1: Off the top of my head, guys that are more influential than Jobs in the field of gaming:

Johnathan Wendel (Fatal1ty)- most famous gamer in America (... and KC native)
John Carmack- Founder of id Software, father of the modern FPS (... and KC area native)
Gabe Newell- Founder of Valve, father of viable modern content distribution.
Sid Meier- Civilization
Will Wright- guy founded Maxis, which made the Sim City and Sims series games
Bill Gates- ran the company with the most open hardware specs that drove PC gaming; chairman of the company that makes the Xbox

Fark, even Douchebag-In-Command Bobby Kotick is more influential than Jobs.

/yes I'm from KC and a gaming nerd

Ok, I'm all in support of most of your list (it mostly mirrors mine above). But Wendel? What has he influenced? He's got a couple of components and peripherals named after him, but he hasn't done much to change public perception of gamers or the game industry itself. The guy is freaking amazing to watch, but I'd argue that he hasn't done anything really special for gaming. Maybe he's just bigger in your part of the world as a hometown hero type thing?

Masso: sprawl15: Beerguy: [m.globedia.com image 600x523]

Would like a word about the whole "most influential man in gaming" thing.

Half Life 2 was boring.

That totally undid all his contributions, including bring mods support that brought success to Team Fortress and Counter-Strike, as well as revolutionary game design like the original Half-Life that is still being copied today and mega successful digital delivery and community system like Steam.

I agree, and I love steam, I play games daily on it and its awesome, and Gabe is awesome as well, and of course, this list is retarded as apple fanboys are, but really, why is half life considered revolutionary? for me it was always doom/quake the real deal, half-life was only the obvious evolution of it.