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Why is it that these guys can strike a leather ball traveling at a pretty good velocity with their forehead and then run around celebrating, yet if you so much as look at their knee, they have to be stretchered off the field?

The look on the coach's face is an appropriate mix of shock and disgrace.

chixdiggit: The look on the coach's face is an appropriate mix of shock and disgrace.

There may be some seppuku being committed after that one.

Meh. this guy did it with half a foot.

Bif deal. They're Japanese. Their feet are much smaller. That's like 47 Norwegian feet.

ROR!

At least the Norwegian one was because the goalie was on the other side of the pitch (probably a last minute desperate attempt to score on the last corner kick) and got an open goal. The Japanese one is just full of FAIL.

When will Arsenal make an offer?

big deal.. i once score from 70 yards out with my penis... but i was ruled offside.

calm like a bomb: Why is it that these guys can strike a leather ball traveling at a pretty good velocity with their forehead and then run around celebrating, yet if you so much as look at their knee, they have to be stretchered off the field?

Because they're extremely fit, professional athletes, but they've been cultured in to drawing the lone referee's attention to fouls by hamming it up. Yeah, it is lame but there's really just one ref for that whole area up to 114,000 square feet and when you don't make it obvious that you've just been fouled, you don't get the call.

However, even with a corps of officials and countless cameras in other sports, you get flopping, diving, and pleading to the refs. Maybe they just need attention.

However, even with a corps of officials and countless cameras in other sports, you get flopping, diving, and pleading to the refs. Maybe they just need attention.

It happens in every sport these days.

What you don't get is most sports, for the most part however, is the total faking of an injury.

factoryconnection: calm like a bomb: Why is it that these guys can strike a leather ball traveling at a pretty good velocity with their forehead and then run around celebrating, yet if you so much as look at their knee, they have to be stretchered off the field?

Because they're extremely fit, professional athletes, but they've been cultured in to drawing the lone referee's attention to fouls by hamming it up. Yeah, it is lame but there's really just one ref for that whole area up to 114,000 square feet and when you don't make it obvious that you've just been fouled, you don't get the call.

However, even with a corps of officials and countless cameras in other sports, you get flopping, diving, and pleading to the refs. Maybe they just need attention.

Some sports with only one referee do not have that same problem.



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Moopy Mac: Some sports with only one referee do not have that same problem.

That doesn't make Rugby great or tough, it just makes it odd. During a rugby match most of the contact is legal contact. There's no away from the ball contact, so the motivation to take a dive is non-existant.

Seemed as though the pitch is some sort of Astroturf, which explains the seemingly huge first bounce it took after the header.

MugzyBrown: Moopy Mac: Some sports with only one referee do not have that same problem.

That doesn't make Rugby great or tough, it just makes it odd. During a rugby match most of the contact is legal contact. There's no away from the ball contact, so the motivation to take a dive is non-existant.

You are ignoring the breakdown and the "enforcement" that occurs within. Rucking the ball out is much more effective in the long run than yelling and pointing at an offender (or reaching into a ruck and throwing yourself on the ground).

Rucking the ball out is much more effective in the long run than yelling and pointing at an offender (or reaching into a ruck and throwing yourself on the ground).

To be honest, I don't even know what this means, but.. again it's a quirk or the sport more than anything.

As you said there's no advantage to diving in Rugby in almost every circumstance. In most sports, faking or exagerating contact at times is an advantage to winning.

In the NFL, a ball carrier isn't going to fake getting tackled because the bigger advantage lies in gaining more yardage, but a defensive lineman may pretend to be getting held if he feels he won't be able to make a tackle.

The NBA in obvious, there's almost no advantage to playing through the contact in most situations.

Soccer is the same.. you'll see players fight the contact up to the point they feel they no longer have an advantage.. like they make a poor touch and they won't be able to recover the ball.

It's amazing to hear the crowd roar after these goals. It's more amazing to see next to nobody in the stands.

MugzyBrown

The NBA in obvious, there's almost no advantage to playing through the contact in most situations.

The big difference is that in basketball, when a guy flops to draw the foul, he still immediately pops to his feet. Even when he isnt exaggerating the contact.

I dont have trouble with a guy going down on contact. But get back on your feet, dammit.

Tjos Weel: MugzyBrown

The NBA in obvious, there's almost no advantage to playing through the contact in most situations.

The big difference is that in basketball, when a guy flops to draw the foul, he still immediately pops to his feet. Even when he isnt exaggerating the contact.

I dont have trouble with a guy going down on contact. But get back on your feet, dammit.


Well, the penalties for non-legal contact in soccer are so severe that players will do anything to draw one. For instance, in basketball, it takes a pretty flagrant foul to warrant an ejection. A little pushing and shoving, or even a hard-ish foul will, at most, yield 2 pts to the opposition (~1% of total output). In football, if I'm not mistaken, any shenanigans after the whistle/away from the ball result in either: a) nothing, b) a verbal warning, or c) a card (yellow or red). So, once a player has a yellow, the opposition will do whatever it takes to draw another, kinda like how teams will drive against the centre will 5 fouls to try to foul him out, 'cept you can't replace him on the pitch. So, Team A's striker is shoved in the shoulder by Teams B's defender (who already has a yellow for a clumsy tackle in the 16'), after a failed corner (header over the bar, or the like), and the striker notices the ref only caught it from the corner of his eye and turned to see, he'll grab his head like he was shot. If the ref believes the defender just punched the striker in the head, he's done for the match.

If there were an option for refs to deal with this easily (2:00 each for Roughing/Diving, anyone?), I think you'd see less of it, because the risk/reward function wouldn't be so lopsided.

/I didn't intend for this to sound like a defense of faking injury, because I hate that shiat.
//It's coached, because it's such an easy way to gain an advantage, with little risk of backfiring (worst case scenario: embellisher gets a yellow)

Loomy: /I didn't intend for this to sound like a defense of faking injury, because I hate that shiat.
//It's coached, because it's such an easy way to gain an advantage, with little risk of backfiring (worst case scenario: embellisher gets a yellow)

Right there with you.

Loomy: Tjos Weel: MugzyBrown

The NBA in obvious, there's almost no advantage to playing through the contact in most situations.

The big difference is that in basketball, when a guy flops to draw the foul, he still immediately pops to his feet. Even when he isnt exaggerating the contact.

I dont have trouble with a guy going down on contact. But get back on your feet, dammit.


Well, the penalties for non-legal contact in soccer are so severe that players will do anything to draw one. For instance, in basketball, it takes a pretty flagrant foul to warrant an ejection. A little pushing and shoving, or even a hard-ish foul will, at most, yield 2 pts to the opposition (~1% of total output). In football, if I'm not mistaken, any shenanigans after the whistle/away from the ball result in either: a) nothing, b) a verbal warning, or c) a card (yellow or red). So, once a player has a yellow, the opposition will do whatever it takes to draw another, kinda like how teams will drive against the centre will 5 fouls to try to foul him out, 'cept you can't replace him on the pitch. So, Team A's striker is shoved in the shoulder by Teams B's defender (who already has a yellow for a clumsy tackle in the 16'), after a failed corner (header over the bar, or the like), and the striker notices the ref only caught it from the corner of his eye and turned to see, he'll grab his head like he was shot. If the ref believes the defender just punched the striker in the head, he's done for the match.

If there were an option for refs to deal with this easily (2:00 each for Roughing/Diving, anyone?), I think you'd see less of it, because the risk/reward function wouldn't be so lopsided.

/I didn't intend for this to sound like a defense of faking injury, because I hate that shiat.
//It's coached, because it's such an easy way to gain an advantage, with little risk of backfiring (worst case scenario: embellisher gets a yellow)

Amen. I wish a big-$$$ league would implement HD replay review like the NFL. Have somebody tip off the ref through the earpiece what really happened. Do that and enforce intentional diving yellows accordingly.

/never gonna happen
//fark sep blatter