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(BBC) Asinine Teachers' advice to end bullying problem: "Act less gay"   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 462
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2011-11-02 06:25:06 PM
Seems reasonable to me. If I was being bullied for being nerdy good advice might be to act less nerdy. It doesn't have to change the fact that I AM nerdy.

Maybe the kid is just annoying. I've got nothing against gay people, but the super flamboyant over the top lisp stereotyped style of gay drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because it's gay. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a straight man in the face for doing it too.

/He'll get over it.
 
2011-11-02 06:52:40 PM
I think it also comes back to the fact that a lot of people still haven't gotten the memo that "gay" is no longer synonymous with "lame".
 
2011-11-02 06:55:49 PM
JanusofZeal: Seems reasonable to me. If I was being bullied for being nerdy good advice might be to act less nerdy. It doesn't have to change the fact that I AM nerdy.

Maybe the kid is just annoying. I've got nothing against gay people, but the super flamboyant over the top lisp stereotyped style of gay drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because it's gay. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a straight man in the face for doing it too.

/He'll get over it.


You pretty much covered my exact thoughts.
Sound advice...listen to it.
 
2011-11-02 07:02:32 PM
jehovahs witness protection: JanusofZeal: Seems reasonable to me. If I was being bullied for being nerdy good advice might be to act less nerdy. It doesn't have to change the fact that I AM nerdy.

Maybe the kid is just annoying. I've got nothing against gay people, but the super flamboyant over the top lisp stereotyped style of gay drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because it's gay. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a straight man in the face for doing it too.

/He'll get over it.

You pretty much covered my exact thoughts.
Sound advice...listen to it.


Blaming the victim. Classy.

Tell me, do you guys also think women who get raped shouldn't have dressed the way they did?
 
2011-11-02 07:09:03 PM
Your kid goes to school empowered by your "snowflake" treatment. Expect said kid to get their ass kicked. It's human nature, and no, it's NOT everyone else's problem. It's your kid's. Own it.
 
2011-11-02 07:18:59 PM
TheDumbBlonde: Your kid goes to school empowered by your "snowflake" treatment. Expect said kid to get their ass kicked. It's human nature, and no, it's NOT everyone else's problem. It's your kid's. Own it.

Empowerment leads to ass kicking. Check.
 
2011-11-02 07:24:42 PM
I've got nothing against black people, but the super short cornrow stereotyped style of hair drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because it's black. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a white man in the face for doing it too.
 
2011-11-02 07:32:52 PM
Quasar: I've got nothing against black people, but the super short cornrow stereotyped style of hair drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because it's black. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a white man in the face for doing it too.

I've got nothing against Jews, but the super cut circumcised penis really drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because it's Jewish. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a Catholic in the anus for dong it, too.
 
2011-11-02 07:37:05 PM
I have it on good authority from a gay man that you can be a gay man without embracing the stereotype
 
2011-11-02 07:38:46 PM
Asa Phelps: ...you can be a gay man without embracing the stereotype

Is that like when a hooker wont kiss?
 
2011-11-02 07:39:05 PM
pudding7: I think it also comes back to the fact that a lot of people still haven't gotten the memo that "gay" is no longer synonymous with "lame".

either way, ACT MORE STRAIGHT!!!!!
 
2011-11-02 07:39:36 PM
FirstNationalBastard: Quasar: I've got nothing against black people, but the super short cornrow stereotyped style of hair drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because it's black. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a white man in the face for doing it too.

I've got nothing against Jews, but the super cut circumcised penis really drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because it's Jewish. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a Catholic in the anus for dong it, too.


This just in: disliking someones actions does not mean you're a racist, sexist, homophobe or anything else. I don't like obnoxious people. The point was, maybe the kid is just obnoxious, and his particular brand of obnoxious fits with a common gay stereotype, thus one might describe it as being gay. So maybe he should stop being that particular brand of obnoxious and annoying.

Clearly I'm homophobic for that statement. I'll have to inform my gay friends that also hate that stuff that they are homophobic as well.

Disliking someones actions, when they conform to a stereotype doesn't mean you hate the thing that is being stereotyped. It means you hate the actions. It may also mean you save time describing the actions by giving them that label. Being an obnoxious little twat isn't okay just because that brand of obnoxious twat is associated with a stereotype.

Maybe the teacher is being a tool, but I'm not going to jump to that conclusion. Maybe the kid is an obnoxious shiathead and using his orientation to try to justify it.
 
2011-11-02 07:40:52 PM
Act like a member of the majority, damnit!

/Or don't
 
2011-11-02 07:42:44 PM
I've got nothing against Nazis, but goose stepping drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because they're Nazis. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a member of the Allied Forces for doing it too.

/Wait a minute...
 
2011-11-02 07:47:13 PM
Aarontology: jehovahs witness protection: JanusofZeal: Seems reasonable to me. If I was being bullied for being nerdy good advice might be to act less nerdy. It doesn't have to change the fact that I AM nerdy.

Maybe the kid is just annoying. I've got nothing against gay people, but the super flamboyant over the top lisp stereotyped style of gay drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because it's gay. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a straight man in the face for doing it too.

/He'll get over it.

You pretty much covered my exact thoughts.
Sound advice...listen to it.

Blaming the victim. Classy.

Tell me, do you guys also think women who get raped shouldn't have dressed the way they did?


Rape is rarely committed as a response to provocative dress.

Back to the actual story: Those who would bully others don't need reasons, they FIND reasons. I think they were just suggesting the kids blend in with the masses and they might be less likely chosen as a target. You can be gay and not flaunt it, can't you?

I was a nerd, but didn't purposefully wear nerd clothes to ensure everyone knew I was a nerd. Needless to say, I was never picked on.

I'm not saying the bullies are right, buy why give them such an obvious target?
 
2011-11-02 07:48:38 PM
JanusofZeal: I'll have to inform my gay friends that also hate that stuff that they are homophobic as well.

Yeah that's about all I need to hear from you
 
2011-11-02 07:49:30 PM
JanusofZeal: This just in: disliking someones actions does not mean you're a racist, sexist, homophobe or anything else. I don't like obnoxious people. The point was, maybe the kid is just obnoxious, and his particular brand of obnoxious fits with a common gay stereotype, thus one might describe it as being gay. So maybe he should stop being that particular brand of obnoxious and annoying.

Clearly I'm homophobic for that statement. I'll have to inform my gay friends that also hate that stuff that they are homophobic as well.


Hey, I get you, man. Some of my very best friends are black. I'm just saying if you don't want to get dragged behind my car in the backwoods of Alabama, stop talking so black. It's so annoying.

Maybe the teacher is being a tool, but I'm not going to jump to that conclusion. Maybe the kid is an obnoxious shiathead and using his orientation to try to justify it.

Absolutely. The story doesn't mention any of that at all or give me reason to think so, but I'm just arguing that it might be true for absolutely no reason. But it might be true!
 
2011-11-02 07:54:16 PM
Quasar: JanusofZeal: This just in: disliking someones actions does not mean you're a racist, sexist, homophobe or anything else. I don't like obnoxious people. The point was, maybe the kid is just obnoxious, and his particular brand of obnoxious fits with a common gay stereotype, thus one might describe it as being gay. So maybe he should stop being that particular brand of obnoxious and annoying.

Clearly I'm homophobic for that statement. I'll have to inform my gay friends that also hate that stuff that they are homophobic as well.

Hey, I get you, man. Some of my very best friends are black. I'm just saying if you don't want to get dragged behind my car in the backwoods of Alabama, stop talking so black. It's so annoying.

Maybe the teacher is being a tool, but I'm not going to jump to that conclusion. Maybe the kid is an obnoxious shiathead and using his orientation to try to justify it.

Absolutely. The story doesn't mention any of that at all or give me reason to think so, but I'm just arguing that it might be true for absolutely no reason. But it might be true!


Yea, the story doesn't say anything like "teachers felt they were making themselves a target for bullies was a current theme," or "Essex County Council said it was unaware as to whether the 'act less gay' comments were intended as homophobic, but was looking to address bullying of all forms."
Yep, nothing in there at ALL to back up the theory that maybe the kids are just obnoxious and making themselves targets. Nothing there to express doubt on the comments being homophobic either. And we all know news outlets aren't at all prone to sensationalizing things. I'm sure if the reason is the kid is an obnoxious shiathead, they wouldn't underplay it in the name of ratings/hits at all.
 
2011-11-02 07:56:55 PM
JanusofZeal: Seems reasonable to me. If I was being bullied for being nerdy good advice might be to act less nerdy. It doesn't have to change the fact that I AM nerdy.

Maybe the kid is just annoying. I've got nothing against gay people, but the super flamboyant over the top lisp stereotyped style of gay drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because it's gay. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a straight man in the face for doing it too.

/He'll get over it.


You know it's this sort of attitude and comments that encourage this sort of behavior. It's saying to the bullies that the kids who are gay or act gay or act differently are somehow wrong and lets them know that they will be less likely to be held accountable for their actions.

It's one of the reasons why victim blaming is so terrible. It's not just being shiatty to the victim, but it's enabling a culture that encourages this sort of thing by all but explicitly stating we'll turn a blind eye as long as the victim has something we can blame it on.
 
2011-11-02 07:59:12 PM
JanusofZeal: "teachers felt they were making themselves a target for bullies was a current theme,"

Uh, wearing glasses, getting good grades, and being overweight "made me a target" in school.

Clearly there's a good chance I was just an obnoxious shiathead and used my nerd label to try to justify it.
 
2011-11-02 08:04:50 PM
Quasar: JanusofZeal: "teachers felt they were making themselves a target for bullies was a current theme,"

Uh, wearing glasses, getting good grades, and being overweight "made me a target" in school.

Clearly there's a good chance I was just an obnoxious shiathead and used my nerd label to try to justify it.


I would love to see this guy get his gay friends in this thread to defend his posts.
 
2011-11-02 08:10:16 PM
TheOmni: JanusofZeal: Seems reasonable to me. If I was being bullied for being nerdy good advice might be to act less nerdy. It doesn't have to change the fact that I AM nerdy.

Maybe the kid is just annoying. I've got nothing against gay people, but the super flamboyant over the top lisp stereotyped style of gay drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because it's gay. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a straight man in the face for doing it too.

/He'll get over it.

You know it's this sort of attitude and comments that encourage this sort of behavior. It's saying to the bullies that the kids who are gay or act gay or act differently are somehow wrong and lets them know that they will be less likely to be held accountable for their actions.

It's one of the reasons why victim blaming is so terrible. It's not just being shiatty to the victim, but it's enabling a culture that encourages this sort of thing by all but explicitly stating we'll turn a blind eye as long as the victim has something we can blame it on.


It's an enabling society of "I'm different, therefor I'm allowed to be an annoying shiathead" that causes a lot of this crap. You know there's a middle ground between saying bullying is okay and saying "I'm just being me" is an excuse for everything. Being gay doesn't excuse being an obnoxious twat.

Quasar: JanusofZeal: "teachers felt they were making themselves a target for bullies was a current theme,"

Uh, wearing glasses, getting good grades, and being overweight "made me a target" in school.

Clearly there's a good chance I was just an obnoxious shiathead and used my nerd label to try to justify it.


Maybe you were an arrogant douchebag and that is what made you a target, and those other things are the way you live in denial. I've damn sure seen that. But here's a key point you all seem to not be able to grasp. I didn't say he was a for sure 100% chance definitely douchebag. I said there's a change he's an obnoxious twat, and that the teachers response was perfectly reasonable. It doesn't mean there's never a case of a teacher being a douchebag. I'm just not going to jump to the conclusion that the school is some homophobic institution.

I've known plenty of [nerds/homosexuals/fat kids/smart kids/whatevers] that claimed being a [nerd/homosexual/fat kids/smart kid/whatever] as the reason they were picked on, when the truth is they were picked on because they were obnoxious little twats in one way or another. I'd guess most of them didn't even realize that was the case.

Remember, just because someone calls you a fatty doesn't mean that's why they don't like you. It could be the case that you're a jackass, and they call you a fatty because they don't like you and think it'll hurt you. Yes, it's still not nice. No, it doesn't mean it was because you were fat that they made fun of you. Replace being fat with whatever else, it still holds.
 
2011-11-02 08:12:29 PM
There is no justification for bullying... telling the victim that *they* should change, is ignorant and retarded, plus enabling for the bullies. It justifies that they were right to bully those different.

Being annoying is anyone's right, punching them in the face for it is not your right.

/Only retards or assholes would say otherwise.
 
2011-11-02 08:12:41 PM
Winning: I've got nothing against Nazis, but goose stepping drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because they're Nazis. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to punch a member of the Allied Forces for doing it too.

/Wait a minute...


I've got nothing against crazy people, but people acting crazy drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because they're crazy. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to WHARGARBL STAB BISCUIT KITTENS a crazy person for being crazy too.

Not really sure what point I'm trying to make here. I may just be crazy.
 
2011-11-02 08:15:21 PM
JanusofZeal: Being gay doesn't excuse being an obnoxious twat.


Except that "being an obnoxious twat" is your right, punching someone for "being an obnoxious twat" isn't your right. You don't like someone being an obnoxious twats, too farking bad, go cry somewhere else.

/btw, your posts actually make you sound like an being an obnoxious twat. So you fit right in.
 
2011-11-02 08:15:42 PM
SnakeLee: Quasar: JanusofZeal: "teachers felt they were making themselves a target for bullies was a current theme,"

Uh, wearing glasses, getting good grades, and being overweight "made me a target" in school.

Clearly there's a good chance I was just an obnoxious shiathead and used my nerd label to try to justify it.

I would love to see this guy get his gay friends in this thread to defend his posts.


None of them are farkers. Do you honestly think that no gay people dislike the super stereotypical gay guy? Really? Or do you think there aren't any people who actually act like that stereotype?
 
2011-11-02 08:17:26 PM
BackAssward: JanusofZeal: Being gay doesn't excuse being an obnoxious twat.


Except that "being an obnoxious twat" is your right, punching someone for "being an obnoxious twat" isn't your right. You don't like someone being an obnoxious twats, too farking bad, go cry somewhere else.

/btw, your posts actually make you sound like an being an obnoxious twat. So you fit right in.


Being an obnoxious twat is you right. Others mocking you and being an obnoxious twat back is their right. You know bullying doesn't necessarily mean fist fights, don't you?

I knew what I was getting into when I posted. I knew there'd be a whole bunch of people that refuse to accept the fact that people who are in a minority group can still be obnoxious twats about it, might catch some shiat for it, and shouldn't be protected from that just because they're some special brand of obnoxious twat.
 
2011-11-02 08:18:31 PM
BackAssward: /btw, your posts actually make you sound like an being an obnoxious twat. So you fit right in.


Actually, you *really* sound like an being an obnoxious twat... should it be ok for me to come beat you up? If you think people should be less of an "being an obnoxious twat", then why aren't you changing? Why do YOU continue to be one?
 
2011-11-02 08:20:55 PM
BackAssward: btw, your posts actually make you sound like an being an obnoxious twat

So do you. It's totally cool if I come beat your ass, right?
 
2011-11-02 08:22:34 PM
GAT_00: BackAssward: btw, your posts actually make you sound like an being an obnoxious twat

So do you. It's totally cool if I come beat your ass, right?



Nah, I never agreed that people should change in order to not be picked on, that's his point, Einstein.
 
2011-11-02 08:23:49 PM
 
2011-11-02 08:23:57 PM
BackAssward: BackAssward: /btw, your posts actually make you sound like an being an obnoxious twat. So you fit right in.


Actually, you *really* sound like an being an obnoxious twat... should it be ok for me to come beat you up? If you think people should be less of an "being an obnoxious twat", then why aren't you changing? Why do YOU continue to be one?


Once again. Physical beating != bullying.

I also never said bullying was okay. I pointed out that the teacher's advice might have been some good advice. You can act like a twatwaffle if you want, but understand you might face consequences for it. If your particular brand of twatwaffle happens to be acting over-the-top obnoxiously gay advice of "be less gay" is pretty valid.

Let me know when you find a way to stop all bullying. I'll be working on the cure for cancer and we'll meet back here and half past never, mmmmkay?
 
2011-11-02 08:24:36 PM
BackAssward: GAT_00: BackAssward: btw, your posts actually make you sound like an being an obnoxious twat

So do you. It's totally cool if I come beat your ass, right?


Nah, I never agreed that people should change in order to not be picked on, that's his point, Einstein.


No, it isn't. Read again, Newton.
 
2011-11-02 08:25:17 PM
My take, as an anti-I've got nothing against gay people person whose friends are all anti-I've got nothing against gay people, but I've dated a guy who was against gay people (and he was so super flamboyant about it, I barely noticed).

1. you do not I've got nothing against gay people around me
2. you do not I've got nothing against gay people around my friends (same reason, they don't like I've got nothing against gay people people).
3. you do not I've got nothing against gay people inside, anywhere
4. you do not I've got nothing against gay people on my property. that's right. I don't care that there's a deck, don't be a I've got nothing against gay people person on it. This also includes areas close enough that the gay people would enter my home- aka, under windows, etc.
5. If you smell so badly of gay people that you leave areas of my home smelling of gay people,then you're no longer welcome in my home.

And I'm a pretty hardcore anti-I've got nothing against gay people. So if your GF has rules stricter than mine, you should punch a straight man in the face for doing it too.
 
2011-11-02 08:26:05 PM
BackAssward: GAT_00: BackAssward: btw, your posts actually make you sound like an being an obnoxious twat

So do you. It's totally cool if I come beat your ass, right?


Nah, I never agreed that people should change in order to not be picked on, that's his point, Einstein.


Yeah, that post should really be reserved for JanusofZeal.
 
2011-11-02 08:26:59 PM
JanusofZeal: BackAssward: GAT_00: BackAssward: btw, your posts actually make you sound like an being an obnoxious twat

So do you. It's totally cool if I come beat your ass, right?


Nah, I never agreed that people should change in order to not be picked on, that's his point, Einstein.

No, it isn't. Read again, Newton.



JanusofZeal: I pointed out that the teacher's advice might have been some good advice. You can act like a twatwaffle if you want, but understand you might face consequences for it.


You agree that acting different is good advice to lessen bullying, but you also say that you didn't say that. Are you drunk Copernicus?
 
2011-11-02 08:33:14 PM
BackAssward: JanusofZeal: BackAssward: GAT_00: BackAssward: btw, your posts actually make you sound like an being an obnoxious twat

So do you. It's totally cool if I come beat your ass, right?


Nah, I never agreed that people should change in order to not be picked on, that's his point, Einstein.

No, it isn't. Read again, Newton.


JanusofZeal: I pointed out that the teacher's advice might have been some good advice. You can act like a twatwaffle if you want, but understand you might face consequences for it.


You agree that acting different is good advice to lessen bullying, but you also say that you didn't say that. Are you drunk Copernicus?


Acting different IS good advice to lessen bullying. That's a fact. If you can't understand that, you're an idiot.
Saying people who want to avoid bullying should consider acting differently is not the same as saying it should be necessary to change to avoid. Let me know when you understand the distinction.
Furthermore, sometimes yes they just plain should act differently. If I ran around yelling "I'm smarter than you and better than you in every way" to everyone, I'd probably be bullied for it. Should I keep doing that or should I act differently to avoid the bullying? Hmm, tough decision, right?

Being gay/nerdy/whatever is not an excuse to be a twatwaffle. If you're being picked on because you're a twatwaffle, you should probably stop being a twatwaffle. You don't have to. Ideally you shouldn't have to, but if you live in the real world instead of candyland, and you're being picked on and want it to stop, not being a twatwaffle is a pretty good option.

/twatwaffle.
 
2011-11-02 08:36:52 PM
TheDumbBlonde: Your kid goes to school empowered by your "snowflake" treatment. Expect said kid to get their ass kicked. It's human nature, and no, it's NOT everyone else's problem. It's your kid's. Own it.

Yeah that totally worked in Columnbine.
 
2011-11-02 08:38:37 PM
Janus,
My advice to you: Act less like a jackass in the future.
 
2011-11-02 08:38:42 PM
Asa Phelps: I have it on good authority from a gay man that you can be a gay man without embracing the stereotype

I don't think it has to do with embracing the stereotype. It's a matter of a balance of testosterone and estrogen in different people. Just like there are butch lesbians and feminine lipstick lesbians. And all the girls in between. It's a big spectrum.

Some gay men are naturally masculine. Some gay men try to be masculine. Some gay men are just effeminate, and know it, so they just have to be themselves. Unfortunately, they have to put up with way more shiat from people. It has to be real hell for effeminate kids in school to deal with this. Just because a kid is effeminate acting doesn't mean he or she is gay.

I do know there are effeminate gay men who use their flamboyant personalities to annoy people.That's just the way they are.They know it pisses people off so they use it as a weapon. And they usually despise other gay men who are masculine.
 
2011-11-02 08:41:05 PM
JanusofZeal: Do you honestly think that no gay people dislike the super stereotypical gay guy? Really? Or do you think there aren't any people who actually act like that stereotype?

Absolutely. I've said on Fark several times that things like the over-the-top Pride parades (the ones where some walk around in chaps and such, not regular ones) do more harm to the acceptance of homosexuality than they do good. It's behavior I don't find acceptable for straight people or gay people in public.

What I find curious is how you leapt from "act less gay" to the theory that these kids were jerking off to Magnum PI re-runs in the middle of class.
 
2011-11-02 08:43:52 PM
QUIT BEING SO N*GGER, N*GGER - THEN YOU WON'T CATCH THE SPRAY
 
2011-11-02 08:44:37 PM
Let me simplify it for you guys.

In the real world, there are bullies. They will pick on people. An option to avoid being picked on is to not act in ways that make yourself a target. You can "be yourself" and deal with repercussions for that or you can try to fit in and wait until you grow up and get away from them to get to be yourself. This isn't candyland. This isn't some happy little fairytale. People are assholes. Those are the options you have.

That isn't saying we shouldn't try to stop bullying. It isn't saying bullying is okay. If you think that's what I just said, just shut up and put me on ignore because you're clearly to thick to understand what I'm saying.

What it means is that while we try to fix bullying some sage advice might be "stop making yourself a target, if you would like to be picked on less." If you are being targeted for being an over-the-top annoying jackass in a manner consistent with gay stereotypes, rather than saying "Perhaps you should consider the option of conforming less to stereotypes of over the top homosexuals" one might shorten it to "be less gay."

Get over it people. "Be less gay" isn't automatically a homophobic remark.
 
2011-11-02 08:45:36 PM
JanusofZeal: Being gay/nerdy/whatever is not an excuse to be a twatwaffle. If you're being picked on because you're a twatwaffle, you should probably stop being a twatwaffle. You don't have to. Ideally you shouldn't have to, but if you live in the real world instead of candyland, and you're being picked on and want it to stop, not being a twatwaffle is a pretty good option.

If this is a sublime plan to act like a huge douche in order to get everyone in the thread to hate you to prove a point, then hats off. It sort of falls apart considering we are talking about children being bullied in school and you are an adult being a total coont anonymously online, but still.

Otherwise, what is your excuse?
 
2011-11-02 08:46:15 PM
Quasar: What I find curious is how you leapt from "act less gay" to the theory that these kids were jerking off to Magnum PI re-runs in the middle of class.

What I find curious is how you got that from what I said. Hint: It's not what I said.

I presented the possibility that "act less gay" might have been good advice, instead of just a homophobic remark. It's really not that complex.
 
2011-11-02 08:47:44 PM
SnakeLee: If this is a sublime plan to act like a huge douche in order to get everyone in the thread to hate you to prove a point, then hats off. It sort of falls apart considering we are talking about children being bullied in school and you are an adult being a total coont anonymously online, but still.

Otherwise, what is your excuse?


My plan is to point out that "act less gay" might be perfectly valid advice for children being bullied in school. Still too complex for you to understand, huh? I shouldn't have given the example of why it might be valid advice, I seem to have overloaded you with information.
 
2011-11-02 08:52:29 PM
JanusofZeal: Acting different IS good advice to lessen bullying.

You know how you're being all gay? Act straight, or you deserve to be bullied.
 
2011-11-02 08:57:37 PM
JanusofZeal: Acting different IS good advice to lessen bullying.


Then why did you also say you didn't say that?:


JanusofZeal: BackAssward: GAT_00: BackAssward: btw, your posts actually make you sound like an being an obnoxious twat

So do you. It's totally cool if I come beat your ass, right?


Nah, I never agreed that people should change in order to not be picked on, that's his point, Einstein.

No, it isn't. Read again, Newton.
 
2011-11-02 09:00:27 PM
GAT_00: JanusofZeal: Acting different IS good advice to lessen bullying.

You know how you're being all gay? Act straight, or you deserve to be bullied.


Bullying happens, that's a fact. We've been trying to stop it since pretty much forever, and yet it still happens.
If you really want to be bullied, don't act in ways that make you a target. It is very simple advice that can be very effective.

I didn't say it's the only option. I didn't say it's the only thing we should do. I didn't say it's the best option. I said it's an option that works, and I won't jump on some school for daring to suggest it.

It's kind of like wearing a seatbelt that you find uncomfortable. Hopefully you won't get in an accident, and it would be irrelevant. Ideally you won't get in an accident. Hopefully no one will cut you off and slam into you. However, until we manage to stop all accidents, it might be worth it to wear an uncomfortable seatbelt.

Sometimes an option isn't perfect. That doesn't mean it's not a valid option.

/Whaaaa, people shouldn't have to change themselves
//Whaaaa, don't give valid advice if it isn't perfect
///Whaaaaaaaaa, society never asks or expects people to act differently. It's not like someone who curses like a sailor would be expected to not do so at a job interview (for non-sailing jobs.)
 
2011-11-02 09:06:07 PM
JanusofZeal: If you really want to be bullied, don't act in ways that make you a target. It is very simple advice that can be very effective.


Aarontology: Tell me, do you guys also think women who get raped shouldn't have dressed the way they did?


Bagelox-99: Empowerment leads to ass kicking. Check.


toraque: 've got nothing against crazy people, but people acting crazy drives me crazy. It doesn't drive me crazy because they're crazy. It drives me crazy because it's annoying. I'd want to WHARGARBL STAB BISCUIT KITTENS a crazy person for being crazy too.


etc. ad nauseum.

/I really think you are just trolling now, since you lied to me in a reply and didn't acknowledge it.
//Or just retarded.
 
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