I'm cool with women showing a little Bush but petoral no thank you.

If that makes me shallow so be it.

It's funny- the GOP wants to go back to the "Good Old Days", as long as they pick which good old days. The 1920's? Those are right out. The early 1940's? Apparently, those are out, too.

Just what exact point in the past is stoic enough that a Republican male would feel comfortable?

Gonz: It's funny- the GOP wants to go back to the "Good Old Days", as long as they pick which good old days. The 1920's? Those are right out. The early 1940's? Apparently, those are out, too.

Just what exact point in the past is stoic enough that a Republican male would feel comfortable?

Give it time. I'm sure you'll get your answer in this thread soon enough. Or a wild tangent that has nothing to do with the topic. Most likely a .jpg showing how much hotter the commentators on Fox are than the ones on MSNBC. Because that'll show you, libtard.

PonceAlyosha: Need Help Soonish: Gonz: It's funny- the GOP wants to go back to the "Good Old Days", as long as they pick which good old days. The 1920's? Those are right out. The early 1940's? Apparently, those are out, too.

Just what exact point in the past is stoic enough that a Republican male would feel comfortable?

The Spartan hayday?

You mean when they used to line up all the young men and fark them down the line right next to each other? I'm down.

As is Rush Limbaugh....Spartans kind of look Dominican, right?

Dialectic: At least, the republicans are gay now.

The ones that are vote against gay rights, then beg for forgiveness from above when they are caught in a sleazy motel room with a rent boy, their ass in the air.

jedihirsch: You mean....

How cute! You think the Republicans of the first part of the 20th century didn't undergo a massive ideological change! Google "Southern Strategy." Have you heard that term?

Where'd ya copy that screed from?

Gonz: It's funny- the GOP wants to go back to the "Good Old Days", as long as they pick which good old days. The 1920's? Those are right out. The early 1940's? Apparently, those are out, too.

Just what exact point in the past is stoic enough that a Republican male would feel comfortable?

it's funny - the democrats want to turn your kid gay, force abortions on your wives, and turn the military into one giant homosexual gangbang. just what hedonistic society would democrats feel comfortable with? Thebes circa 500 b.c.?

hey, creating bullshiat strawmen is much funner than discussing issues.

My anecdotal story. I started paying serious attention in the late 90's. The first political rally I attended was in '04.

There were many dozens (clearly not enough, in the end) of appalled senior citizens who were of the mind "WTF happened to the Republican Party I grew up with?!?!"

When you see a senior citizen with Obama stickers on his/her car, ask them if they've been a Democrat all their life.

PonceAlyosha: deadcrickets: jedihirsch: wotthefark: Gonz: It's funny- the GOP wants to go back to the "Good Old Days", as long as they pick which good old days. The 1920's? Those are right out. The early 1940's? Apparently, those are out, too.

Just what exact point in the past is stoic enough that a Republican male would feel comfortable?



Some time before blacks and women could vote.

You mean that the right for women to vote drafted and passed by Republicans (repubs tried the ammendment 4 times until enough dems crossed over for it to go to the states to pass "In 1878, U.S. Senator Aaron Sargent (R-CA) introduced in Congress the proposed 19th Amendment, according women the right to vote. Over the next four decades, it was primarily the Democrats who would oppose the measure. Not until 1919, after the Republican Party won majorities in the U.S. Senate and the U.S. House of Representatives, did Congress approve what would become the 19th Amendment"), ibid with the black vote (Republicans Passed the 15th Amendment In 1869, the Republican-controlled 40th Congress passed the 15th Amendment, extending to African-Americans the right to vote. Nearly all Republicans in Congress voted in favor, though a few abstained, saying it did not go far enough. Nearly all Democrats in Congress voted against the 15th Amendment.The 15th Amendment was ratified the following year, but using intimidation, poll taxes, registration fraud, and literacy tests Democrats prevented most African-Americans from voting for nearly a century. Which Republicans also stopped and ended those racist laws, see 1957 civil rights act and 1964, both with respective 90 and 80 percent repub support and 55 and 67 democrat). So yeah, why would repubs go against their own accomplishments


The GOP hasn't changed much, all that has changed is the public image, but behind the scenes, it is still the same

Dixiecrats.

Or as they're called now, the GOP base.

the dixiecrats are all dead, and the south didn't swing to republicans until the 1990s, 30 years after the so called southern strategy.


The Myth of 'the Southern Strategy'


By CLAY RISEN
Published: December 10, 2006

Everyone knows that race has long played a decisive role in Southern electoral politics. From the end of Reconstruction until the beginning of the civil rights era, the story goes, the national Democratic Party made room for segregationist members - and as a result dominated the South. But in the 50s and 60s, Democrats embraced the civil rights movement, costing them the white Southern vote. Meanwhile, the Republican Party successfully wooed disaffected white racists with a "Southern strategy" that championed "states' rights."

It's an easy story to believe, but this year two political scientists called it into question. In their book "The End of Southern Exceptionalism," Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin argue that the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth. In the postwar era, they note, the South transformed itself from a backward region to an engine of the national economy, giving rise to a sizable new wealthy suburban class. This class, not surprisingly, began to vote for the party that best represented its economic interests: the G.O.P. Working-class whites, however - and here's the surprise - even those in areas with large black populations, stayed loyal to the Democrats. (This was true until the 90s, when the nation as a whole turned rightward in Congressional voting.)

The two scholars support their claim with an extensive survey of election returns and voter surveys. To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didn't.

To be sure, Shafer says, many whites in the South aggressively opposed liberal Democrats on race issues. "But when folks went to the polling booths," he says, "they didn't shoot off their own toes. They voted by their economic preferences, not racial preferences." Shafer says these results should give liberals hope. "If Southern politics is about class and not race," he says, "then they can get it back."

I have to ask did anyone else find any of the pictures kind of hot, like number eight with the lady in boots and cowboy hat lighting a cigarette off of the lady in the French Maids outfit cigarette?
It wasn't just me was it, please.

m2313: Gonz: The 1920's? Those are right out. The early 1940's? Apparently, those are out, too.

I think a Republican male would fit right in in the 20s.
Prohibition to fuel their War on Drugs hard on.
The first Red Scare and they get to treat any left wingers and anarchists like America treats Muslims now. Including the occasional torture without fair trial.
The minorities knew their place. And Voted Republican
Granted, women had the right to vote. But RVW hadn't been implemented yet, so they were still allowed to be treated as property for the purpose of childbearing.

While they would like the authoritarian streak and wartime measures of 40s USA, their blind FDR hate would probably limit them from enjoying it. On the plus side, if they're thrown back to this time, they have the opportunity to join their likeminded fascist friends across the pond, be Nazi subversives here in the USA, or help Bush's grandfather overthrow FDR. Maybe they'll be successful in that timeline.

Gonz: Just what exact point in the past is stoic enough that a Republican male would feel comfortable?

When they were 12 -- aka the most idyllic age to be alive..... old enough to be independent and responsible, and young enough to have all their worldly concerns taken care of, and too naive to understand how the world works.