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Yep. Looks like Huntsman is throwing a very obvious and aerodynamic Hail Mary pass late in the game.

Dork.

Sensible talk will get you nowhere in the GOP, Jon.

He's not derping HARD ENOUGH!

John Huntsman is showing that he is not a conservative. But then again, he never was.

fusillade762: He's not derping HARD ENOUGH!

No kidding. Save the smart talk until AFTER you get the nomination... or you'll finish where you are right now.

MannaxOne: John Huntsman is showing that he is not a conservative. But then again, he never was.

He is a 20th Century Republican, before that pesky Jesus got his mitts on them.

Huntsman was my governor twice and I would definitely vote for him for president. But he doesn't stand a chance in today's GOP. He opposed the stimulus for being too small when all the other repubs were saying it was too big. He has supported climate change legislation. He believes in evolution and has even said so in public. He is moderate on gay rights and immigration. So, yeah.... The repubs hate him.

coeyagi: Sensible talk will get you nowhere in the GOP, Jon.

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This

The only republican running with a brain and the only one I would vote for.

/he believes in science
//he doesn't have a chance

Talking points for Jon:

-Teh gheys, they will fark your child's ass for teh lulz.
-Oil will never run out
-Women must put a little pussy troll in their vaginas to bite off the penises of would-be rapists, because honey, you aint gettin' no abortion passes on this bus.
-Taxes were Satan's idea.
-Executions are chicken soup for the soul

And when June 2012 comes around, you can ease back on that a bit.

no more subsidies for solar, wind and other green energy! count me in.

hydraulic fracturing for natural gas extraction! Fracture, baby, fracture!

Man, apparently the word "troll" has the same effect as "Beetlejuice".

coeyagi: Man, apparently the word "troll" has the same effect as "Beetlejuice".

Well they HAVE seen the Exorcist a hundred and eleventy brazillion times...

tenpoundsofcheese: Fracture, baby, fracture!

That's not very catchy.

whidbey: coeyagi: Man, apparently the word "troll" has the same effect as "Beetlejuice".

Well they HAVE seen the Exorcist a hundred and eleventy brazillion times...

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He wasn't done yet, promising to "systematically begin to eliminate every subsidy for energy companies, whether it be oil, natural gas, wind or solar. Under my presidency, the United States will get out of the subsidy business."

Coal it is then!

If he does start gaining traction especially since Cain is crashing the powers that be would " off him" before they would let the oil companies go down!

If only he could just spill the usual garbage like the others and start talking sense AFTER he becomes the candidate

Huntsman is derping just like the rest of the GOP field, but at a slightly lower rate. Batting 0.05 still isn't good.

hubiestubert: Huntsman and Johnson are the only two on the field that I'd be interested in.

I wish that they had a chance. I really do, because it would be nice to have a sane leadership, as opposed to the field of Idiots who are attempting to drag the party away from this century...



I'd take Romney over either of them. Ending subsidies for non-fossil fuel energies will just ensure the dirtiest of fossil fuels (cheapest) will dominate the market. This is not a good thing. Attacking EPA protections in the process is not a good thing either.

What is substantially different about Huntsman's politics compared to Bachmann beyond his obvious veneer of cordiality?

hubiestubert: Romney?

Of the lot, he's clearly the only one who's not an ideologue. He'll say and do anything to get elected -- and presumablely say and do anything to stay relatively popular once elected. Not exactly admirable but, I'd rather have a pandering twat than an ideological conservative that will keep screwing the nation up as a matter of principal. Which is how I see all this talk of "low taxes" and "deregulation."

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With all his sanity and science acceptance, to the fringe base Huntsman must looks likes he is saying

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John Huntsman: Proof that just being an obnoxiously far-right conservative is no protection against looking like a liberal when surrounded by psychotic fascists and windowlicking Randroids.

Screw him and his lib dem backers

hubiestubert:

I fear that Romney will get the nomination, and if he does, there's no way I'll vote for him. I've already dealt with his brand of executive decision making--since college no less--and I don't want that man anywhere near the Federal budget.

do you know that it is the House the first passes the budget, then the Senate votes on it, and then the President gets to approve or veto, right?

Downside...he's mormon and believes craziness like he'll become a god one day and populate planets in a distant galaxy with spirit children

Ishkur: Who the hell learns Chinese in their spare time?

An ambassador maybe?

Surool: Ishkur: Who the hell learns Chinese in their spare time?

An ambassador maybe?

Or a missionary who goes to Hong Kong for two years and keeps up the skills afterwards?

Surool: fusillade762: He's not derping HARD ENOUGH!

No kidding. Save the smart talk until AFTER you get the nomination... or you'll finish where you are right now.

Impossible. He worked for the Kenyan Marxists Satan.

His game was over before it started.

On a side note watching the GOP eat their own is very enjoyable. Unfortunately they're also taking America along for the ride. Can't wait for Romney and party elites to try to steal the nomination in the 11th hour. Remember Martha Coakley?

hubiestubert: DarnoKonrad: hubiestubert: Huntsman and Johnson are the only two on the field that I'd be interested in.

I wish that they had a chance. I really do, because it would be nice to have a sane leadership, as opposed to the field of Idiots who are attempting to drag the party away from this century...



I'd take Romney over either of them. Ending subsidies for non-fossil fuel energies will just ensure the dirtiest of fossil fuels (cheapest) will dominate the market. This is not a good thing. Attacking EPA protections in the process is not a good thing either.

What is substantially different about Huntsman's politics compared to Bachmann beyond his obvious veneer of cordiality?

I had to deal with Romney in Maine when he was involved in the UMaine system, and he was adept at spending other folks' money, and with little thought for future needs. There was a lot of cries of corruption at the Olympics in Utah as well, and the give away to the insurance industry with state funds in Mass, I have had more than enough of Romney's brand of politics. He is an executive kleptocrat, in shifting other folks' money to buddies.

At this point, I want to hear more from Johnson and Huntsman, and less from the Idiot Brigade. I haven't made up my mind yet for the Primaries, but at this point, the lack of crazy is making me consider these two.

Romney? Never in the 10,000 Hells. Never. I'd vote for Hillary Clinton before him--and I wouldn't vote for Hillary any time real soon...

He almost ruin the UMass system, and screwed the other state colleges. Took 10 years to rebuild his damage and get rid of his installed president that didn't give a frak. And now they have to deal with recession funding from Patrick.

UMass / state schools pump in 5 billion into the state economy from work, grants, popping out highly educated people, and public/private joint ventures into new technologies and research.

And he was ready to ax it all to give people a $500 check a year.

Romney can go frak himself. He's a dirty snake oil salesman. Never created a single job. Never worked for a honest buck.

hubiestubert: tenpoundsofcheese: hubiestubert:

I fear that Romney will get the nomination, and if he does, there's no way I'll vote for him. I've already dealt with his brand of executive decision making--since college no less--and I don't want that man anywhere near the Federal budget.

do you know that it is the House the first passes the budget, then the Senate votes on it, and then the President gets to approve or veto, right?

You do know the President does have a wee measure of discretionary control as well as leading his party's drive to form the budget, right?



You think the President has discretionary control over part of the budget? interesting. How much do you think he can authorize and what gives him that authority?

sgtlejeune: Huntsman was my governor twice and I would definitely vote for him for president. But he doesn't stand a chance in today's GOP. He opposed the stimulus for being too small when all the other repubs were saying it was too big. He has supported climate change legislation. He believes in evolution and has even said so in public. He is moderate on gay rights and immigration. So, yeah.... The repubs hate him.

Let's see, he understands the value of protecting the environment, he would oppose the teaching of creationism in schools, he doesn't bash gay people . . .

I actually remember when there were a lot of republicans like this and I'm not even 40 years old. They've been steadily adding loons for the past thirty years but, until recently, the grown-ups were still in charge. People very much like Huntsman in fact.

He's certainly no liberal though. He's pro-life and I would probably disagree with him on numerous issues. But I'm not a single issue voter and I understand that abortion is a deeply personal issue for a lot of people so I wouldn't disqualify him for that alone. I suspect he would probably be the type of chief executive who would strike deals with democrats and he has made it quite clear that he believes large increases in defense spending are a terrible idea.

Of course it looks like he has no chance at all but, by the time they get to New Hampshire, things may have changed a little. Perry has already tanked and Cain is in the process of tanking. That leaves Romney. Maybe Huntsman can come in a surprise second in New Hampshire and keep the campaign going for a little while longer.

Probably not though and that's a shame. The country runs a lot better when the only two relevant political parties keep their most partisan members on the margins. We don't have that kind of leadership right now.

This looks to me like Huntsman is setting himself up for 2016 or 2020. The current path of the Republican party is unsustainable, as is obvious to all. Either the party will marginalize itself to the far right, unelectable craziness, simply destroy itself with some new conservative party rising in its stead, or the party will jettison the craziness (unbelievable, yes, I know). Huntsman is the kind of man who looks extremely electable for a conservative party of true conservatives, as opposed to the current neoliberal trash. The GOP mainstream marginalizes him now, but in truth, they should fear him, fear what he represents - an inevitable future in which they have no place.

sgtlejeune: Huntsman was my governor twice and I would definitely vote for him for president. But he doesn't stand a chance in today's GOP. He opposed the stimulus for being too small when all the other repubs were saying it was too big. He has supported climate change legislation. He believes in evolution and has even said so in public. He is moderate on gay rights and immigration. So, yeah.... The repubs hate him.
He's a democrat in a republican primary...

Has he gone plaid?

Botkin of the Yard: I actually remember when there were a lot of republicans like this and I'm not even 40 years old. They've been steadily adding loons for the past thirty years but, until recently, the grown-ups were still in charge. People very much like Huntsman in fact.

And, of course, you can thank Ronald Reagan for this, given his decision to offer scumsucking pricks like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson a seat at the Republican table.

I would totally vote for Huntsman if he had a chance in hell. And I'm a libby lib.

Try again in 2016 after the GOP has officially disbanded/imploded

tnpir: Botkin of the Yard: I actually remember when there were a lot of republicans like this and I'm not even 40 years old. They've been steadily adding loons for the past thirty years but, until recently, the grown-ups were still in charge. People very much like Huntsman in fact.

And, of course, you can thank Ronald Reagan for this, given his decision to offer scumsucking pricks like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson a seat at the Republican table.

Don't be ignorant of history.

Reagan was a dumbass, but not responsible for this clusterfark. The evangelicals took over the GOP from the inside at the county and state party level and then started running their own candidates. By the time Reagan was all cozying up to the moral majority set, it was already too late because they owned every party chair seat from Virginia down through Texas.

I know people like to fixate on these big figureheads, but the change in the GOP over the last 40 years is due to a systemic infiltration of evangelicals into the party apparatus.