Way to go, Greece, you country of nitwits.

Farking While Farking: According to the markets today the fed's report was considered good news....

No. today was bargain hunting. The stock market is a pretty shiatty economic indicator anyway.

DrVoice: I've got the answer. Tax cuts for the rich.

It has never, ever failed.

Enjoy your totalfark. Come on over to TFD and post a welcome thread for yourself.

I took a full-time job I didn't really want because I know that we are in a world of sh*t for the next decade. It's all about self-preservation. We are currently in a Japan-style malaise. We could fix it tomorrow if we'd stop playing f*cking political football with economic policy. We're half-assing two types of economic policies to please both sides, leaning heavily to the free market bullsh*t because the Randians control the House and the Dems don't have 60 in the Senate.

I would even approve going full Randian because at least we'd be doing something full-assed! We can see that doesn't work, as we already know, and then make adjustments. But, then they'd just argue that "We didn't fully implement it and we need more time to get more data to see if it's working. Jesus Christ. It's like watching two retards fight over a can of play-doh.

We have GOT to get more money into the hands of a majority of consumers to increase spending in order to get businesses willing to hire again. It ain't rocket surgery and I'm f*cking sick of saying it.

I don't really care anymore. I'm all set. It's maybe 50% of what I want to be earning, but I'm doing just fine. It really is the fault of the politicians. Your anger at Wall Street is 3 f*cking years too late. The target has moved and you don't see that. The economy is the fault of the politicians, not my settling for something less than optimal. That's just a calculated decision. If we stay on this path, we are are absolutely guaranteed to be worse off then our parents and that will lead to a decline of America in many respects. Grab it now, do something now. Vote these assholes out and fight for tax reform that benefits people who spend the majority of their money in the economy on durable goods and get the goddamn housing market sorted out. Flush out the bad loans and start new. Refinance, or kick them out. Make a goddamn decision. Someone. Anyone!

NewportBarGuy: I took a full-time job I didn't really want because I know that we are in a world of sh*t for the next decade. It's all about self-preservation. We are currently in a Japan-style malaise. We could fix it tomorrow if we'd stop playing f*cking political football with economic policy. We're half-assing two types of economic policies to please both sides, leaning heavily to the free market bullsh*t because the Randians control the House and the Dems don't have 60 in the Senate.

I would even approve going full Randian because at least we'd be doing something full-assed! We can see that doesn't work, as we already know, and then make adjustments. But, then they'd just argue that "We didn't fully implement it and we need more time to get more data to see if it's working. Jesus Christ. It's like watching two retards fight over a can of play-doh.

We have GOT to get more money into the hands of a majority of consumers to increase spending in order to get businesses willing to hire again. It ain't rocket surgery and I'm f*cking sick of saying it.

I don't really care anymore. I'm all set. It's maybe 50% of what I want to be earning, but I'm doing just fine. It really is the fault of the politicians. Your anger at Wall Street is 3 f*cking years too late. The target has moved and you don't see that. The economy is the fault of the politicians, not my settling for something less than optimal. That's just a calculated decision. If we stay on this path, we are are absolutely guaranteed to be worse off then our parents and that will lead to a decline of America in many respects. Grab it now, do something now. Vote these assholes out and fight for tax reform that benefits people who spend the majority of their money in the economy on durable goods and get the goddamn housing market sorted out. Flush out the bad loans and start new. Refinance, or kick them out. Make a goddamn decision. Someone. Anyone!

God damn, I want to have your babies.

Wicked Chinchilla: I just want to know what in the blazes of hell Papandreou was thinking with the referendum. Yes, everyone knows the bailout agreement was a short term "fix." Everyone knows it was a largely symbolic victory that fell well short of addressing both the medium and long-term problems of Greece. The bloody point though was to a patch together in the interim period. Its not like they were advertising it like some Greek Panacea.

It's very simple. Papandreou has been basically losing support during his term because of his acceptance of the austerity measures thus far imposed upon Greece. He is calling the referendum to essentially put the responsibility of further austerity measures off of his government and onto the Greeks at large. He figures that it's harder to criticize him for accepting the deal and austerity measures if the Greeks are sharing in responsibility in accepting it in the first place.

Seriously, though, considering that the deal as it currently stands basically writes off half of the Greek debt, which is a hell of a deal that they're not ever going to see again if they pass it up, it's ridiculously stupid not to just take the damn thing.