LOL. But full price if you want both halves!

FTFA:A student pilot and flying instructor are lucky to be alive after the small plane they were flying was forced to make an emergency landing on a Pompano Beach street.

Another great example of Obama Education.

Nels: FTFA:A student pilot and flying instructor are lucky to be alive after the small plane they were flying was forced to make an emergency landing on a Pompano Beach street.

Another great example of Obama Education.

I've now read that sentence 10 times and can't figure out what's wrong with it. Successful troll is successful?

Will the student show up for his next lesson?

I've heard that sometimes student pilots in general aviation/commuter aircraft have accidentally shut off the engine switch when they meant to throw the switch for the landing gear.

A few pop-rivets, a little bondo, and some paint and it'll be good as new.

The Cessna 172 does not have retracts.. the most likely cause of forcing a small single in is engine issues. the IO-360 is a pretty tough engine though. Glad both are ok

"Carlos Silva and his family live near the intersection. His wife, Isabel said she fears a crash every day"

every day

living in fear

no one forced us

to choose to live here

Mutt Farkinov: I've heard that sometimes student pilots in general aviation/commuter aircraft have accidentally shut off the engine switch when they meant to throw the switch for the landing gear.

It would be very, very rare for a student to train in a retractable-gear plane. There's also no engine "switch" nor is there anything easily confused with a gear lever that would shut down the engine.

But, if you want a slightly more plausible hypothesis along those lines, a student could pull the mixture knob (starving the engine of gas) instead of pulling the throttle out to idle, but you'd usually only do that once the runway is makeable anyway.

More likely cause of crash landings like this are was fuel-related (water in the gas, not enough gas, empty tank selected, etc).

willflyforfood: The Cessna 172 does not have retracts.. the most likely cause of forcing a small single in is engine issues. the IO-360 is a pretty tough engine though. Glad both are ok

Actually this plane was a 172N which would have an O-320, not an IO-360.

Nels: FTFA:A student pilot and flying instructor are lucky to be alive after the small plane they were flying was forced to make an emergency landing on a Pompano Beach street.

Another great example of Obama Education.

How in the hell does Obama figure into this???

MrDon: Nels: FTFA:A student pilot and flying instructor are lucky to be alive after the small plane they were flying was forced to make an emergency landing on a Pompano Beach street.

Another great example of Obama Education.

How in the hell does Obama figure into this???

It's a liberal policies that makes things like this happen.

Sorry for making three posts in a row, but I found this in another article on the crash:

"Bakalar was flying on the approach to the air park. As they neared the air park, they reduced power and descended at a shallow angle toward the runway. When they advanced throttle, the engine quit, Citrullo said."

Carbureted 172 perhaps making a long descent at idle... then adding power and losing it completely. I'm thinking carb ice? It was a little warm down there today but probably pretty humid too... certainly a possibility if they didn't have carb heat going.

dukeblue219: willflyforfood: The Cessna 172 does not have retracts.. the most likely cause of forcing a small single in is engine issues. the IO-360 is a pretty tough engine though. Glad both are ok

Actually this plane was a 172N which would have an O-320, not an IO-360.

Thanks to both anyway for the clarification.

Nels: It's a liberal policies that makes things like this happen

Clearly the Bush education policies worked well for you.

Wow. That journalist has really white teeth....

Slartibartfaster: Nels: It's a liberal policies that makes things like this happen

Clearly the Bush education policies worked well for you.

Yeah cause I'm not a pinko plane-crasher.

They walked away therefore it was a good landing.

Mutt Farkinov: I've heard that sometimes student pilots in general aviation/commuter aircraft have accidentally shut off the engine switch when they meant to throw the switch for the landing gear.


I have heard that some maniacal flight instructors LOVE to chop power, even when doing pattern work. I have also heard that many old high wing aircraft in use at flight schools are poorly maintained and beat to hell and that suddenly chopping power will cause the engine to stall.

I heard this when learning to fly, my instructor was infamous for doing this at the most inopportune times. And twice we had to restart. I was within ten seconds of getting to land on some rich guy's personal golf hole when we finally got a restart once. I was actually pissed, that fairway was nicer than the runway I was used to and the engine out wasn't on me.

I'll bet the kid here got the same lecture I got after my instructor-induced close calls: what happens in Flight Club stays in Flight Club.

Well, this is a far cry from the emergency landing performed yesterday in Warsaw. I wonder which is better, a landing gear with no power, or power with no landing gear.

Nels: Slartibartfaster: Nels: It's a liberal policies that makes things like this happen

Clearly the Bush education policies worked well for you.

Yeah cause I'm not a pinko plane-crasher.

Folks, this is what people mean when they say someone is "trying too hard".

"Teacher say, student do"


Stupid teacher, and good luck soloing, student

At Penny's?

Nels: MrDon: Nels: FTFA:A student pilot and flying instructor are lucky to be alive after the small plane they were flying was forced to make an emergency landing on a Pompano Beach street.

Another great example of Obama Education.

How in the hell does Obama figure into this???

It's a liberal policies that makes things like this happen.

It sounds like socialism as sure as I sound fat.

adiabat: dukeblue219: Carbureted 172 perhaps making a long descent at idle... then adding power and losing it completely. I'm thinking carb ice? It was a little warm down there today but probably pretty humid too... certainly a possibility if they didn't have carb heat going.

Carb Heat ON is on the checklist... gotta follow the checklist...

Actually that is probably spot on... I was just figuring since a CFI was there that wouldnt have been they case though.

dukeblue219: willflyforfood: The Cessna 172 does not have retracts.. the most likely cause of forcing a small single in is engine issues. the IO-360 is a pretty tough engine though. Glad both are ok

Actually this plane was a 172N which would have an O-320, not an IO-360.

Ah i didnt look closely enough or look up the tail number, but i should know better since all my PPL training was in late 70's 172Ns , before i went straight for my MCPL in the Seminole..

Wert789: They walked away therefore it was a good landing.

But they can't use the plane again, so it wasn't a great landing.