See it's funny because this shiat is going down right next to us, but because they're all good Catholics and not Muslims no one is worried.

should have gone with this fawkes instead

Brave Anonymous ran away. Bravely ran away, away! When danger reared its ugly head, He bravely turned his tail and fled

Internet tough guys in action.

Anonymous isn't a hacking group. It's a LOIC botnet.

Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: See it's funny because this shiat is going down right next to us, but because they're all good Catholics and not Muslims no one is worried.

I think it has more to do with the "let's not ever discuss Mexico" bias.

inkblot: Anonymous isn't a hacking group. It's a LOIC botnet.

...and Zetas aren't all that concerned with websites when there is so many heads to lop off. Just sayin'....

FTFA: The newspaper quotes another Anonymous Twitter account, "@AnonymouSabu," reportedly belonging to notorious Anonymous hacker Sabu, as tweeting the following: "# OpCartel is more alive than ever and as I told others in private, the war against corruption is on both sides of the spectrum. We are going to WAR!"

Well OK then. Good luck with that, Sabu.

Seriously.

"anonymous" has been full of shiat ever since they posted that video with the scary voice saying how they were going to take down scientology.

lewismarktwo: I think it has more to do with the "let's not ever discuss Mexico" bias.

if we ignore them, they might go away

Zetas or notorious for cutting off the genitals of their victims, but little do they know in this case the genitals are generally hidden behind 70+ lbs. of gunt.

Ha, jokes on them.

Lt. Cheese Weasel: inkblot: Anonymous isn't a hacking group. It's a LOIC botnet.

...and Zetas aren't all that concerned with websites when there is so many heads to lop off. Just sayin'....

but if they kidnapped Drew, Farkers would donate the ransom to PayPal and Cuervo would sponsor the link.

The short-sighted nature of Anonymous continues to rear its ugly head.

Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: See it's funny because this shiat is going down right next to us, but because they're all good Catholics and not Muslims no one is worried.

I wouldn't say that at all. Obama's recent Untouchables-esque tax evasion charges against Cali pot dealers pretty much shows we're on the road to legalization for most controlled substances, shortly after which the Cartels will collapse, because Big Pharma and Big Ag will jump in that game big time and own the US market, which is the Cartel's main customer. Even direct action won't get rid of them...we've been doing that in South America for decades now - but real competition backed by the US Government will.

Just goes to show Anonymous aren't the badass shadow-surfers they purport to be. And they have no sack.

LewDux: Brave Anonymous ran away. Bravely ran away, away! When danger reared its ugly head, He bravely turned his tail and fled

+1 lulz

Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: See it's funny because this shiat is going down right next to us, but because they're all good Catholics and not Muslims no one is worried.

You won't find too much direct attention about it because of the role we played in creating it. Our policies were directly responsible for the creation of Los Zetas. We trained the original group, we created the power vacuum which enabled them to take over, and we continued to throw cash/weapons at the problem which ended up in their hands.

FTFA: The newspaper quotes another Anonymous Twitter account, "@AnonymouSabu," reportedly belonging to notorious Anonymous hacker Sabu, as tweeting the following: "# OpCartel is more alive than ever and as I told others in private, the war against corruption is on both sides of the spectrum. We are going to WAR!"

PROTIP: Anybody who claims to speak for Anonymous, by definition, does not.

Also, once you've turned the Anonymous dog loose, there's no way to get it back on its chain.

At the same time, Milenio points out that other Anonymous members in the English-speaking world have not thrown in the towel and are still planning on releasing incriminating information about Los Zetas collaborators on November 5, Guy Fawkes Day, as originally planned.

So nothing has changed?

Farking pussies!

Stabone33: Just goes to show Anonymous aren't the badass shadow-surfers they purport to be. And they have no sack.

I am tempted to agree, but at a certain point you have to say to yourself, if you're Anon., is this shiat worth dying for? From my perspective, the answer would be no. Hell, even the Mexican cops and judges whose job entailed pushing back against the Cartels quit. No offense, but what sack do you have? Ever had a gun discharged in your direction? (I have btw, but that's another story) Ever had a loved one kidnapped and threatened with torture followed by grisly death? These farkers play for keeps and, unless you're part of some special forces elite cadre, the rest of us ain't in their league.

What exactly are they going to do to a group that doesn't keep electronic records or have an online presence, but instead controls the streets in Mexican towns with guns and machetes and funnels drugs into the U.S?

Anonymous: We're going to wipe you off the internet!
Zetas: ........
Anonymous: See, they're not on the internet anymore!

InmanRoshi: Zetas or notorious for cutting off the genitals of their victims, but little do they know in this case the genitals are generally hidden behind 70+ lbs. of gunt.

Ha, jokes on them.

I frew up a widdle in my mouf.jpg

lewismarktwo: Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: See it's funny because this shiat is going down right next to us, but because they're all good Catholics and not Muslims no one is worried.

I think it has more to do with the "let's not ever discuss Mexico" bias.

It's been established that it is racist to discuss Mexico.

fawlty: Stabone33: Just goes to show Anonymous aren't the badass shadow-surfers they purport to be. And they have no sack.

I am tempted to agree, but at a certain point you have to say to yourself, if you're Anon., is this shiat worth dying for? From my perspective, the answer would be no. Hell, even the Mexican cops and judges whose job entailed pushing back against the Cartels quit. No offense, but what sack do you have? Ever had a gun discharged in your direction? (I have btw, but that's another story) Ever had a loved one kidnapped and threatened with torture followed by grisly death? These farkers play for keeps and, unless you're part of some special forces elite cadre, the rest of us ain't in their league.

If you have had a gun discharged in your direction in combat, then you know that combat isn't about a fair fight, face to face. Modern combat is to make the fight as unfair as possible, even when a gun is pointed directly at you. Anonymous purports to do this, but in reality, seem to be saying they really can't.

You don't have to be in any elite SOF unit to have freedom of action against the Cartels. The Cartels use money and terror as the carrot and stick, just like Mao did once his insurgency had gained enough momentum. If Anonymous was half the untouchable group they claim to be, they would have no problem continuing their campaign in a way Los Zetas would never be able to counter...but then again, maybe it's all part of a ruse...you know, a clever attempt at trickery.

In any case, the "so what?" is, if they reveal these informants and insiders, what will the Government of Mexico be able to do about it? The Cartels have more money, and as someone else said, there are always more heads to cut off in Mexico. Some poor bastard who doesn't want to get tortured in a Mexican prison or have his kid's head used in a game of Guatemalan Soccer will probably take his chances at the former and take the Cartel's money.

Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: See it's funny because this shiat is going down right next to us, but because they're all good Catholics and not Muslims no one is worried.

No one is worried? What alternate dimension do you get your information from? The cops in US border cities are already seeing this stuff spilling over into their towns. Bullets from gunfights across the border are hitting American schools and government buildings. Drug-gang kidnappings are routine in Phoenix. The Mexican military or deserters are providing escorts into American territory for drug smugglers and God knows who else. You bet your ass people are worried.

lewismarktwo: Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: See it's funny because this shiat is going down right next to us, but because they're all good Catholics and not Muslims no one is worried.

I think it has more to do with the "let's not ever discuss Mexico" bias.

Well it's hard to talk about Mexico when "Mexican" is a racial slur.

cefm: What exactly are they going to do to a group that doesn't keep electronic records or have an online presence, but instead controls the streets in Mexican towns with guns and machetes and funnels drugs into the U.S?

Anonymous: We're going to wipe you off the internet!
Zetas: ........
Anonymous: See, they're not on the internet anymore!

Have you any idea what Anon. has threatened to do? They would reveal the identities of Cartel informants, enforcers, and public officials on their payroll. You're a dumbass if you think the informants and public officials don't have any kind of online presence...or cell phones, or home phones, or credit cards, or bank accounts...all of which leave a discoverable presence on the interwebs.

Stabone33: If you have had a gun discharged in your direction in combat, then you know that combat isn't about a fair fight, face to face.

Nah, wasn't combat. Just a douche taking a potshot at me in the middle of a scuffle.

Stabone33: If Anonymous was half the untouchable group they claim to be

Well, there's the rub. Of course, as is so often stated on Fark (and I assume to be true), no one is truly anonymous on the web. A determined searcher can reveal those persons hiding behind the proverbial 7 proxies. And one has to consider whether the Cartels would be squeamish about punishing innocents that they "suspected" may be part of an action against the Cartels. I get your point about "claim to be" tho. Are Anon. subscribers to ITG Weekly or not?

Them anonymous dudes sure ended up being a pack of pussies. No big shock there.

jjorsett: Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: See it's funny because this shiat is going down right next to us, but because they're all good Catholics and not Muslims no one is worried.

No one is worried? What alternate dimension do you get your information from? The cops in US border cities are already seeing this stuff spilling over into their towns. Bullets from gunfights across the border are hitting American schools and government buildings. Drug-gang kidnappings are routine in Phoenix. The Mexican military or deserters are providing escorts into American territory for drug smugglers and God knows who else. You bet your ass people are worried.

Yeah, but the BIGGER threat is clearly from Muslims. That's why we spent so much more money eradicating those pests. Amirite?

Rent Party: Them anonymous dudes sure ended up being a pack of pussies. No big shock there.

They stood up and backed down.

You just never stood up.

I guess it's easier to criticize others than do something worthwhile your own damn self.

lisarenee3505: Farking pussies!

If you insist.

/hot

As far as I understand the issue, it's not individual anon members backing out, but the various 4chan knockoff sites that suddenly realized that they gave their name and cc number ti a web host when they set their message boards up, and know that the info will likely be posted there once it goes live.

I'm sure the zetas made sure to let everyone know that they don't care if you were only loosely affiliated with the group dumping the info. The hosts got jitters. Otherwise it's ready enough to stay completely anonymous on the web. Buy a $150 netbook, drive a full tank of gas in a random direction, blimp on to a public wifi hotspot, dump data, burn netbook, and go home. Completely untraceable unless you make a stupid mistake.

And they will all die as a result if they reveal that information. I know it's easy to sit in our comfortable American homes and be internet tough guys, but a girl I was dating had her cousin and uncle murdered in broad daylight by the cartels simply for "looking like" a target last year. These people don't fark around.

Rent Party: Them anonymous dudes sure ended up being a pack of pussies. No big shock there.

Why don't you go talk shiat to the Zetas, hero?

This certainly isn't a fight I want to get in the middle of.

two self-identified Anonymous Operation Cartel participants, Skill3r and Glyniss Paroubek.

I hate articles like this, getting people talking about Anonymous who actually know next to nothing about what Anonymous actually is. These people are not Anonymous, no matter what they claim. Anyone can make that claim, and no one questions it for the most part. These "hacktavists" clearly do not understand.

Let me make this as clear as possible. Anonymous is not some hacker group - despite that some hackers are anonymous. They are acting while using those handles, so they are also NOT Anonymous. Anonymous's so called "members" have no names/handles/identification of any kind. It can accurately be said that at the current time, I am not Anonymous either. It is impossible for Anonymous to post to a site like Fark.

Also, no one speaks for Anonymous. Nor is there a leadership. Think about the ocean for a bit. Sure you may have currents here and there, but there is no solid uniformity in this. Also, no drop of water can speak for the ocean.

Let us assume that every Anon makes it through this unscathed.

What happens to the people they dox? Unless they're well-known to be in the cartel already, the answer may well be that they die.

That's when shiat starts getting real. Some of the people who appear to be cartel minions may in fact be double agents, or even simply sloppy minions whom the authorities like to crib from.

And they're dead now. The real authorities will not like that.

jjorsett: No one is worried? What alternate dimension do you get your information from?

According to his profile, Seattle. Which makes sense. People this far north don't seem to ever hear about any of that stuff in the local media at all. When I lived in San Diego it was pretty constant that shiat was spilling over (and that was over five years ago.) The news doesn't make its way far enough north to have people in Portland or Seattle hear about it. When people in the PNW think of a border, they typically seem to think of Canada.

Anon: Lookit me! I'm hacking the interwebs! Ha ha, no one can touch me!
Slutty tween: HAY YOU GUISE EAT A PENIS LOLOL
Anon: Succumb to the wrath of Anon! Internet hate machine ho!
Cartels: Yeah, we have crackers too. Plus, we're cold-blooded murderers.
Anon: Hey guys, let's all just chill and talk about this.

Maybe these self-important bastards will know their role once their abducted, tortured, beheaded, and dumped on a Mexican overpass. Actions have consequences. The more severe the actions the more severe the consequences, They'll learn the hard way.

So they scoff at and provoke law enforcement for years but a week agianst a cartel and they back off?

That seems to in a roundabout way say quite a bit about how the war on drugs is working out.

probably a smart move. I'd bet drug money can buy some pretty highly skilled counterintelligence mercenaries.

archichris: Perhaps that notorious hacking group known as the NSA needs to step in and do the same job.....but instead of posting it publicly they can just let the Air Force know.

***DING DING DING***

Winner winner chicken dinner. Or maybe they already have...nah, they're having too much fun trolling Iran and Syria and pulling their hair out fending off China.

bk3k: two self-identified Anonymous Operation Cartel participants, Skill3r and Glyniss Paroubek.

I hate articles like this, getting people talking about Anonymous who actually know next to nothing about what Anonymous actually is. These people are not Anonymous, no matter what they claim. Anyone can make that claim, and no one questions it for the most part. These "hacktavists" clearly do not understand.

Let me make this as clear as possible. Anonymous is not some hacker group - despite that some hackers are anonymous. They are acting while using those handles, so they are also NOT Anonymous. Anonymous's so called "members" have no names/handles/identification of any kind. It can accurately be said that at the current time, I am not Anonymous either. It is impossible for Anonymous to post to a site like Fark.

Also, no one speaks for Anonymous. Nor is there a leadership. Think about the ocean for a bit. Sure you may have currents here and there, but there is no solid uniformity in this. Also, no drop of water can speak for the ocean.

A statistician conducting sampling in an area of that ocean would probably disagree with you. Also, the guy who could be king of the world from yesterday's thread. There is always a pattern that underlies chaotic systems, and that becomes magnified when dealing with human networks. So nice bit of sophistry but your points are idealistic rather than practical.