pfft.. as if conservatives need to scramble for that, now that DADT has been repealed..

when former Marine and Iraq War vet Scott Olsen sustained a skull fracture when he was hit by a police projectile at an Occupy Oakland protest

That's a pretty PC way to say the cops shot a vet in the f*cking head.

nopokerface: Are the Oakland cops not unionized? How are they Republican lackeys?

Because the GOP supports police unions, and supports giving the police more powers and equipment since they're "tough on crime". It's why when Walker up in Wisconsin went after the public employee unions, the police unions didn't face any cuts.

nopokerface: Aarontology: Because the GOP supports police unions, and supports giving the police more powers and equipment since they're "tough on crime". It's why when Walker up in Wisconsin went after the public employee unions, the police unions didn't face any cuts.

Hmmm, in Ohio all the public unions' right to collective bargaining is on the block.

Considering that in every other instance of GOP jihad against workers trying to keep basic job rights, there have been exemptions for police unions as they traditionally support the GOP. I find it unlikely there isn't one there too, you just don't want to look.

nopokerface: Hmmm, in Ohio all the public unions' right to collective bargaining is on the block.

Interesting. Usually they get exemptions

GAT_00: nopokerface: Aarontology: Because the GOP supports police unions, and supports giving the police more powers and equipment since they're "tough on crime". It's why when Walker up in Wisconsin went after the public employee unions, the police unions didn't face any cuts.

Hmmm, in Ohio all the public unions' right to collective bargaining is on the block.

Considering that in every other instance of GOP jihad against workers trying to keep basic job rights, there have been exemptions for police unions as they traditionally support the GOP. I find it unlikely there isn't one there too, you just don't want to look.

A quick search also shows that the Ohio law, while going further, is also nicer to police unions than other unions.

Facts, how do they work?

nopokerface: GAT_00: Considering that in every other instance of GOP jihad against workers trying to keep basic job rights, there have been exemptions for police unions as they traditionally support the GOP. I find it unlikely there isn't one there too, you just don't want to look.

Police and firefighters unions have been in the ads saying that they would lose their collective bargaining rights, and as a direct result we would all soon be dead, on a regular basis.

So you're saying it's wrong to take away those rights?

Socialist.

Meh, the military allows dumbasses in its ranks. When the become civilians, they are still dumbasses.

Show me where in the Constitution it says that we have to support troops of an army illegaly led by a fascist Communist Kenyan Negro.

jehovahs witness protection: Meh, the military allows dumbasses in its ranks. When the become civilians, they are still dumbasses.

And we're off! Let the smearfest begin!

jehovahs witness protection: Meh, the military allows dumbasses in its ranks. When the become civilians, they are still dumbasses.

Why do you hate the troops? Why do you hate America?

Aarontology: That's a pretty PC way to say the cops shot a vet in the f*cking head.

Meh, you can't hit anything with a real-life noob tube. It's still ridiculous that a "behavior modification" grenade was being fired into the crowd, and the injury is completely the fault of the shooter, but it wasn't aimed at the dude's head.

BunkoSquad: Show me where in the Constitution it says that we have to support troops of an army illegaly led by a fascist Communist Kenyan Negro.

2/10

You can do better, just keep trying.

Conservatives have never had a problem with smearing people who serve. Conservatives only car about the troops when they can be used as a prop to advance the conservative political agenda.

Aarontology: when former Marine and Iraq War vet Scott Olsen sustained a skull fracture when he was hit by a police projectile at an Occupy Oakland protest

That's a pretty PC way to say the cops shot a vet in the f*cking head.

I'm pretty sure that they can't use the word "f*ck" or its derivatives in most newspapers.

BunkoSquad: Show me where in the Constitution it says that we have to support troops of an army illegaly led by a fascist Communist Kenyan Negro.

Meh, 0/10

Shostie: Aarontology: when former Marine and Iraq War vet Scott Olsen sustained a skull fracture when he was hit by a police projectile at an Occupy Oakland protest

That's a pretty PC way to say the cops shot a vet in the f*cking head.

I'm pretty sure that they can't use the word "f*ck" or its derivatives in most newspapers.

Shot a vet in the sex head?

Barbigazi: Shostie: Aarontology: when former Marine and Iraq War vet Scott Olsen sustained a skull fracture when he was hit by a police projectile at an Occupy Oakland protest

That's a pretty PC way to say the cops shot a vet in the f*cking head.

I'm pretty sure that they can't use the word "f*ck" or its derivatives in most newspapers.

Shot a vet in the sex head?

I believe "love hole" is the preferred nomenclature in AP Style. So it would be "Shot a vet in the love hole."

Shostie: Barbigazi: Shostie: Aarontology: when former Marine and Iraq War vet Scott Olsen sustained a skull fracture when he was hit by a police projectile at an Occupy Oakland protest

That's a pretty PC way to say the cops shot a vet in the f*cking head.

I'm pretty sure that they can't use the word "f*ck" or its derivatives in most newspapers.

Shot a vet in the sex head?

I believe "love hole" is the preferred nomenclature in AP Style. So it would be "Shot a vet in the love hole."

Now you're making it sound sexy.

jehovahs witness protection: Meh, the military allows dumbasses in its ranks. When the become civilians, they are still dumbasses.

These dumbasses fought to keep your mom's basement safe, as well as your freedom to shiat all over them because they disagree with you.

jehovahs witness protection: Meh, the military allows dumbasses in its ranks. When the become civilians, they are still dumbasses.

You were in the core?

it's interesting watching the GOP shills turn on wounded war veterans. Sad and pathetic...but interesting.

How does the fact that they're soldiers give any relevance to their opinion on investment banking regulations?

More of OWS getting their signals mixed up. Are you protesting against corporate greed, or are you protesting against idiot cops who don't know how to aim tear gas canisters? Pick one or the other.

jehovahs witness protection: Meh, the military allows dumbasses in its ranks. When the become civilians, they are still dumbasses.

You need to STFU and show some respect, little man. The military might let people you don't approve of into their ranks, but those people are still better than you for being willing to fight for your rights when you're not willing to fight for theirs.

They don't appreciate coming home to find that the rights they fought for us to keep were lost anyway. It cheapens their sacrifice. I understand why they're angry, because I'm angry when I see it too.

Some of you forget that your hippie parents routinely spit on American soldiers. Hell, during a Veteran's Day Parade during the time of Desert Storm, I had eggs thrown at me while in uniform. It's not a right or left issue. It's just people being asses.

serial_crusher: How does the fact that they're soldiers give any relevance to their opinion on investment banking regulations?

More of OWS getting their signals mixed up. Are you protesting against corporate greed, or are you protesting against idiot cops who don't know how to aim tear gas canisters? Pick one or the other.

Why do they have to pick one? What, you don't know how to protest without someone telling you what you should be offended about?

serial_crusher: How does the fact that they're soldiers give any relevance to their opinion on investment banking regulations?

More of OWS getting their signals mixed up. Are you protesting against corporate greed, or are you protesting against idiot cops who don't know how to aim tear gas canisters? Pick one or the other.

omg! the protesters don't have a mission statement! they're not ISO9000 compliant! well OBVIOUSLY they're not a 'real' protest group because I can see they haven't filed the proper paperwork....

netizencain: Hell, during a Veteran's Day Parade during the time of Desert Storm, I had eggs thrown at me while in uniform.

That was me. Sorry. :(

Weaver95: serial_crusher: How does the fact that they're soldiers give any relevance to their opinion on investment banking regulations?

More of OWS getting their signals mixed up. Are you protesting against corporate greed, or are you protesting against idiot cops who don't know how to aim tear gas canisters? Pick one or the other.

omg! the protesters don't have a mission statement! they're not ISO9000 compliant! well OBVIOUSLY they're not a 'real' protest group because I can see they haven't filed the proper paperwork....

The problem is that there's x number of people out there protesting banking regulations, y number of people protesting police brutality, z number of people protesting that the moon landing was faked, but then any time you want to argue, you say "look! look how many people are protesting against the banks! There's (x + y + z) people out there and they're angry at the banks!" well, not all of them.

netizencain: Some of you forget that your hippie parents routinely spit on American soldiers. Hell, during a Veteran's Day Parade during the time of Desert Storm, I had eggs thrown at me while in uniform. It's not a right or left issue. It's just people being asses.

A lot of people tell that "Vietnam vet got spit on" story, but a lot of Vietnam vets will tell you that it didn't happen to them, and they don't know anyone else down at the VVA who remembers it happening to them either. It's the same with the Jane Fonda torture camp tour stories. It's simply not true.

I think it was some kind of grapevine ploy to make anyone who was anti-war look really bad. Maybe it was a distraction to keep them from noticing how badly the rest of society and their former employers/people who drafted their asses were going to cornhole them. Vietnam war vets got a pretty raw deal, what with the substance abuse and PTSD and homelessness and joblessness. The government didn't give two shiats what happened to them once it was done with them. We're going to have a whole new crop of that when our soldiers come home again.

I think soldiers are smart enough to figure out who their friends are and aren't.

FTFA: which is planning to disrupt the nation's fifth-busiest shipping container port today in a broad call-to-action plan that will include a march against local businesses.

If that is true, then this is incredibly stupid. Your enemy is WALL STREET (and the politicians bought & paid for), not Ma & Pa Kettle!

serial_crusher:
The problem is that there's x number of people out there protesting banking regulations, y number of people protesting police brutality, z number of people protesting that the moon landing was faked, but then any time you want to argue, you say "look! look how many people are protesting against the banks! There's (x + y + z) people out there and they're angry at the banks!" well, not all of them.

the majority of people are X and Z but you focus only and exclusively on Z. So try this 2X+Y-Z and you've got your protest.

serial_crusher: How does the fact that they're soldiers give any relevance to their opinion on investment banking regulations?

None, but as I have said before, the Republicans have spent over a decade pushing the notion that the troops are above reproach, must be supported at all times, should never be looked down upon, and should all but be worshiped for all they have done. They beat that into the collective consciousness of the nation, so people react when anything happens to them.

Also: to answer your other question, OWS are protesting many different things. Once the police started brutalizing peaceful protesters, police brutality became something they added to their list of issues. It's a shame that it had to be added, but some of the police are out of control in some of these cities.

Weaver95: serial_crusher:
The problem is that there's x number of people out there protesting banking regulations, y number of people protesting police brutality, z number of people protesting that the moon landing was faked, but then any time you want to argue, you say "look! look how many people are protesting against the banks! There's (x + y + z) people out there and they're angry at the banks!" well, not all of them.

the majority of people are X and Z but you focus only and exclusively on Z. So try this 2X+Y-Z and you've got your protest.

..er, that should be 'majority of people are X and Y....

sorry. txting and posting on twitter AND facebook while posting on fark. probably not a good idea.

Look, haven't we covered this before?

Soldiers are heroes... only if they're boot-licking Republicans. If they're not, they might as well be commies.

sheilanagig: jehovahs witness protection: Meh, the military allows dumbasses in its ranks. When the become civilians, they are still dumbasses.

You need to STFU and show some respect, little man. The military might let people you don't approve of into their ranks, but those people are still better than you for being willing to fight for your rights when you're not willing to fight for theirs.

They don't appreciate coming home to find that the rights they fought for us to keep were lost anyway. It cheapens their sacrifice. I understand why they're angry, because I'm angry when I see it too.

Yo, ass goblin, I served my time in the Army before you were even born.
I met quite a few morans during my stint, and there are plenty to go around now.

jehovahs witness protection:
Yo, ass goblin, I served my time in the Army before you were even born.
I met quite a few morans during my stint, and there are plenty to go around now.

i'm not sure ALL the GOP voters are idiots tho, just the loud ones.

jehovahs witness protection: Yo, ass goblin, I served my time in the Army before you were even born.
I met quite a few morans during my stint, and there are plenty to go around now.

Not likely. I watch Fox News. They say the soldiers and generals are infallible.

A group calling itself "Iraq Veterans Against the War" don't sound like a mainstream veterans group.

SkinnyHead: A group calling itself "Iraq Veterans Against the War" don't sound like a mainstream veterans group.

I know, right? It's like how MSNBC and CNN aren't the mainstream media because both of them combined have less viewers than the Mainstream Fox News Media.

SkinnyHead: A group calling itself "Iraq Veterans Against the War" don't sound like a mainstream veterans group.

But they do sound credible to me, since they'd better know than the average person what reasons there may or may not be to be against the war.

If I was asked which group's opinion I would take to heart -- Iraq Veterans Against the War or say, Yankees Fans Against the War, I'd choose the former. I suspect most people would, logically.