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(BBC) Interesting Fracking may have made the earth move, scientists say, lighting a post-frack cigarette   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 15
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2011-11-02 10:11:42 AM
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2011-11-02 10:18:10 AM
BumpInTheNight: farm3.static.flickr.com

Thanks for causing my first big belly laugh of the day.
 
2011-11-02 10:31:46 AM
Magnitude 1-3 quakes? Really? Your kid falling off the couch moves your house more than a mag 2 quake.

If I was the gas industry I would get someone out there claiming that they are preventing future large quakes by releasing the strain as a series of smaller ones.
 
2011-11-02 10:56:41 AM
The good news is that even if the fracking didn't cause the quakes, it did allow locals to light their tap water on fire.
 
2011-11-02 11:32:52 AM
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2011-11-02 11:59:58 AM
I miss BSG

:(
 
2011-11-02 01:05:36 PM
I'm still more impressed with the people demonstrating that their tap water is flammable by turning their running water into a flame-thrower.

However, this does recall to mind the many anomalous news reports collected by Charles Hoy Fort of strange "booms" in the English countryside. Many of these were no doubt caused by small earthquakes or clear sky thunder despite Fort's skepticism. Away from the big subduction zones where earthquakes are most common and most violent, there are many places where slight slippage occurs routinely. Most of these mini-quakes are too small to be noticed except under exceptional circumstances.

The shale oil companies might claim that they are preventing earthquakes by relieving stress but it would be hard to prove and somewhat dubious. They could be, but in some cases they would be doing the opposite--preparing a larger earthquake. The Devil is in the details, as they say. Depending on the geological facts, small earthquakes can cause build up stress as well as reduce it. Think of a gear being slowly stripped of its teeth: stress might build up until the machine explodes or the resistance might be slowly dissipated until the gear turns freely and the machine stops working.

There are gas-rich shale deposits in my native New Brunswick, which means that the issue will be striking close to home eventually (say 100-200 miles). New Brunswick also has coal (Albert County) and even a tiny amount of oil--a very pumps near the Bay of Fundy and in the Miramichi* River basin, owned, I believe by Irving Oil Co.

*Pronounced variously. English-speaking New Brunswickers say Mere-a-mish-ee--the last three syllables are run together quickly and softly. The first two syllables sound like the Latin "mira", which you will recognize in admiration and miracle as well as the star named Mira. But I digress.

It strikes me that fracking is as nasty as it sounds, and that it is little more responsible and friendly to people and the environment than strip-mining and mountain-top removal. It should be avoided for many reasons.
 
2011-11-02 01:06:08 PM
BumpInTheNight: [farm3.static.flickr.com image 320x189]

Perfect!

/needed a big smile today, so thank you
 
2011-11-02 01:36:40 PM
My brother in law can light his tap water now & there hasn't been any fracking in his area. It's just the geology. These micro quakes were a reason they had to abandon sequestering CO2 years ago.

From what I understand, the whole point is to shake the substrate so any residual petrochemicals start flowing. Did a software intallation at an oil well service company a few years ago. Saw an ad for an eathquake generator to be used on the sea floor. Impressive.
 
2011-11-02 02:19:13 PM
magic_patch: I miss BSG

:(


As I do...So Say We All!
 
2011-11-02 02:58:27 PM
brantgoose: There are gas-rich shale deposits in my native New Brunswick, which means that the issue will be striking close to home eventually (say 100-200 miles).

Do you have lots of rednecks with land around you?

Then prepare to have a boom in the economy.....

Lexus dealerships are getting all kinds of business around here

The highest I have heard so far for per acre leasing rights is $5,000. Its supposed to go up higher this winter as well.

My sister in law works for a leasing company. She gets yelled at because people will sign leases, and come back a month later saying their neighbor is getting more then they are and demand that they get the same.

She has had people come in and say "I don't care about my water rights, just give me the money"

Appalachia will be a booming area in the next few years. I just hope some have learned from the mistakes of the past before they sign anything (I doubt it)

/has Texas oil people hanging around SE Ohio now.....
 
2011-11-02 04:54:00 PM
Yes, yes....it's all fun and games until This Happens (new window)
 
2011-11-02 05:20:28 PM
Fracking or Fracing? There's a difference...

BBC I am disappoint....
 
2011-11-02 08:35:43 PM
Most of the reports of combustible water are likely due to the same geologic phenomena that causes the gas to be there in the first place. Here in Wyoming, there are several "loose" formations that have pockets of gas that are trapped throughout the subsurface, but are not related to the hydraulic fracturing near the water wells. Imagine a sponge that has lots of pore space for the gas to get trapped in; the energy companies go after the large, deep pockets, but water wells can still penetrate shallow pockets of trapped gas. It's geology that causes this, not fracking. Most gas wells are over 10,000 feet deep and the water wells are around 100 feet deep. If fracking caused gas to move that fast in the subsurface, the gas would escape and their pay day would go with it. In extremely rare instances, well casings may not be have been sealed properly, but those are remediated quickly; gas companies don't like losing money.

/Wyoming geologist
//on a personal mission to dispel Gasland's terrible science
 
2011-11-03 12:20:22 PM
Devilmouse:

The picture also has nothing to do with fracing.

Well, okay, it's a well. But it's a stage or three before the frac crew rolls onto location.

This reminds me - anybody want a job making 100g a year? EIP.
 
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