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2011-11-02 01:49:28 AM  
Congress passed the Fair Sentencing Act in August 2010, changing the 100-to-1 disparity between minimum sentences for crack and powder cocaine to 18 to 1.

Who came up with these ratios in the first place?
 
2011-11-02 02:35:16 AM  

phlegmmo: Congress passed the Fair Sentencing Act in August 2010, changing the 100-to-1 disparity between minimum sentences for crack and powder cocaine to 18 to 1.

Who came up with these ratios in the first place?


Prosecutors running for higher office.
 
2011-11-02 10:56:32 AM  
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2011-11-02 11:21:42 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: phlegmmo: Congress passed the Fair Sentencing Act in August 2010, changing the 100-to-1 disparity between minimum sentences for crack and powder cocaine to 18 to 1.

Who came up with these ratios in the first place?

Prosecutors running for higher office.


Might be the type of people that are more likely to smoke and dispense crack are a bit different socio-econimically racially than the people who snort it.
Stupid drug anyhow. Junkies of both types will steal your sh*t.
 
2011-11-02 11:33:46 AM  

phlegmmo: Congress passed the Fair Sentencing Act in August 2010, changing the 100-to-1 disparity between minimum sentences for crack and powder cocaine to 18 to 1.

Who came up with these ratios in the first place?


A bigot.
 
2011-11-02 11:35:23 AM  

AbbeySomeone: ecmoRandomNumbers: phlegmmo: Congress passed the Fair Sentencing Act in August 2010, changing the 100-to-1 disparity between minimum sentences for crack and powder cocaine to 18 to 1.

Who came up with these ratios in the first place?

Prosecutors running for higher office.

Might be the type of people that are more likely to smoke and dispense crack are a bit different socio-econimically racially than the people who snort it.
Stupid drug anyhow. Junkies of both types will steal your sh*t.


Mandatory minimums for crack: Yeah!!!
mandatory minimums for meth: .... cricket cricket ...
 
2011-11-02 11:35:48 AM  
Good. The sentence should be the same for possessing an equivalent amount of powdered cocaine.

racist law is racist.
 
2011-11-02 11:36:00 AM  
Took long enough. Lets map out the potential for reforms of the War on Drugs by using this as our benchmark.
 
2011-11-02 11:36:26 AM  
Good. We don't need jails jammed with people who were using drugs and not hurting anyone. Put the money into rehab programs or something.
 
2011-11-02 11:36:56 AM  

phlegmmo: Congress passed the Fair Sentencing Act in August 2010, changing the 100-to-1 disparity between minimum sentences for crack and powder cocaine to 18 to 1.

Who came up with these ratios in the first place?


Welcome to the crack scare. It was done because supposedly in the 80's crack was a new drug and supposedly was the most addictive drug ever and something had to be done to stop it. Funny how the same type of sentencing discrepancies where never put into place when meth became popular.
 
2011-11-02 11:37:30 AM  
What happens to the people in prison already with the known-to-be-unfair sentences?
 
2011-11-02 11:38:13 AM  
Next up they lower the taxes on Kool cigarettes because it targets somebody or some group
 
2011-11-02 11:39:17 AM  

ongbok: "the most addictive drug ever "


I argue that political power qualifies as the most addictive drug. Can we do something about that,... for the children.
 
2011-11-02 11:39:20 AM  

dustlesswalnut: What happens to the people in prison already with the known-to-be-unfair sentences?


FTA: Nachmanoff's district is believed to have the largest number of people in the country -- between 800 and 900 people -- who might benefit from the reduced sentencing guidelines on crack. He said 75 of his clients were expected to be released on the first day of retroactivity.
 
2011-11-02 11:39:53 AM  

ongbok: Funny how the same type of sentencing discrepancies where never put into place when meth became popular.


It's because Meth is mostly used by white people.
 
2011-11-02 11:40:04 AM  
Minor drug offenders fill your prisons. You don't even flinch. All our taxes paying for your wars against the new non-rich
 
2011-11-02 11:40:47 AM  
Crack is only addictive if you're farked in the head.
 
2011-11-02 11:41:03 AM  

dustlesswalnut: What happens to the people in prison already with the known-to-be-unfair sentences?


They're eligible to request early release. 12k prisoners to be exact. Are we, as a society ready to deal with the sudden release of 12,000 users, or is it going to overflow our rehab centers?
 
2011-11-02 11:41:15 AM  
What am I going to do with all this crack?

cdn2.hark.com
 
2011-11-02 11:41:43 AM  
And most of them will be right back behind bars within a few years
 
2011-11-02 11:41:55 AM  

fireclown: ongbok: Funny how the same type of sentencing discrepancies where never put into place when meth became popular.

It's because Meth is mostly used by white people.


Do you want to limit the productivity of the trucking industry? Or oil drilling? Or piece rate manufacturing?
 
2011-11-02 11:42:03 AM  
"Marion Barry, blue payphone in the common area. Collect calls only and may be monitored and recorded".
 
2011-11-02 11:42:46 AM  

rev. dave: ongbok: "the most addictive drug ever "

I argue that political power qualifies as the most addictive drug. Can we do something about that,... for the children.


Everybody knows vraxoin is the most addictive drug in the galaxy.
 
2011-11-02 11:42:57 AM  

greenbowlpacker: What am I going to do with all this crack?

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"Smoked crack, got his job back. You can't keep a job at McDonald's if you smoke crack....send your ass to Hardees."
 
2011-11-02 11:43:19 AM  

trappedspirit: Next up they lower the taxes on Kool cigarettes because it targets somebody or some group


the taxes on Kool's would have had to be 100 times more than for Marlboro's first.
 
2011-11-02 11:43:50 AM  
As long as I can continue to be interrogated every time I need to buy Allegra-D 10 days at a time the world is still a wonderfully secure and safe place.
 
2011-11-02 11:44:04 AM  
Why don't they just bring the other guidelines up to the "Crack" standards. Paris, Lohan, and Sheen could be serving life sentences by now...
 
2011-11-02 11:44:21 AM  
So who are they going after next?
 
2011-11-02 11:44:39 AM  

hbk72777: And most of them will be right back behind bars within a few years


but for the actual crimes committed. I've always believed that if you want to get high, that's your own business so long as you don't endanger others. Go to a club and get all jacked up on E, all well and good. Drive while you're high, not cool.
 
2011-11-02 11:45:20 AM  

Raging Thespian: rev. dave: ongbok: "the most addictive drug ever "

I argue that political power qualifies as the most addictive drug. Can we do something about that,... for the children.

Everybody knows vraxoin is the most addictive drug in the galaxy.


I want a new drug, one that don't make me sick.
 
2011-11-02 11:46:03 AM  

whither_apophis:

Mandatory minimums for crack: Yeah!!!
mandatory minimums for meth: .... cricket cricket ...


I think what ur saying is, both crack and meth are bad, so, vote republican
 
2011-11-02 11:46:29 AM  

meat0918: phlegmmo: Congress passed the Fair Sentencing Act in August 2010, changing the 100-to-1 disparity between minimum sentences for crack and powder cocaine to 18 to 1.

Who came up with these ratios in the first place?

A bigot.


How is that?
 
2011-11-02 11:46:53 AM  

dustlesswalnut: What happens to the people in prison already with the known-to-be-unfair sentences?


You know how I know you didn't read the article?

FTFA: "Ultimately the right answer is 1 to 1, and people in the law enforcement community and the criminal justice system recognize that," said Nachmanoff. "But that just means that there's still more work to do."

I'm for the changes, but I'm not sure I completely agree with this statement. I've seen people who try coke and say, "Meh. Not for me." and never touch it again. Have you ever heard of someone who "tried" crack? I think it still is much more addictive to smoke the rock than snort the powder.
 
2011-11-02 11:47:13 AM  

fireclown: hbk72777: And most of them will be right back behind bars within a few years

but for the actual crimes committed. I've always believed that if you want to get high, that's your own business so long as you don't endanger others. Go to a club and get all jacked up on E, all well and good. Drive while you're high, not cool.


Silly citizen, we need to be told what to do.
 
2011-11-02 11:47:19 AM  

phlegmmo: Who came up with these ratios in the first place?



believe it or not, the death of former Maryland basketeball star (and Celtics #1 pick) Len Bias in 1986 is largely to blame for this.....Bias OD'd days after being drafted by the Celts in June 1986.

in the media frenzy that followed, and with crack cocaine beginning to be known as particularly virulent problem in cities all over the US, Congress did what it sometimes does *cough cough, Patriot Act* and flipped the fark out, and decided to immediately pass a law mandating far more harsh penalties for crack cocaine than for powderered cocaine. They plucked these ratios out of the air and unwittingly (or not, if you like tin foil hats), sentences for crack possession were mandated by law to be crazy harsh.

seriously. look it up.
 
2011-11-02 11:47:36 AM  
What's up? You say you wanna be down?
Ease back, or muthafarka get beat down.
Out my face, fool I'm the illest,
Bulletproof, I die harder than Bruce Willis.
Got my crew in effect, I bought em new Jags,
So much cash, gotta keep it in Hefty bags.
All I think about is keys and Gs
Imagine that, me workin at Mickey D's
That's a joke cause I'm never gonna be broke,
When I die there'll be bullets and gunsmoke.
Ya don't like my lifestyle? fark you!
I'm rollin with the New Jack crew.
And I'm a hustler.
 
2011-11-02 11:47:52 AM  

theknuckler_33: meat0918: phlegmmo: Congress passed the Fair Sentencing Act in August 2010, changing the 100-to-1 disparity between minimum sentences for crack and powder cocaine to 18 to 1.

Who came up with these ratios in the first place?

A bigot.

How is that?


Clearly someone who thinks ratios are far superior to percentages.
 
2011-11-02 11:48:07 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: So who are they going after next?


Dirty kids who don't know how to use bath salts.
 
2011-11-02 11:48:17 AM  
Well it's about time. I've been wanting to switch my habit over from powder to rock for a while now (you know, the economy and all), but I've been afraid of the extra penalties.

Now I can freebase worry-free!
 
2011-11-02 11:48:24 AM  

whither_apophis: Mandatory minimums for crack: Yeah!!!
mandatory minimums for meth: .... cricket cricket ...


I'd happily support the death penalty as a mandatory minimum for meth.

And gimme my goddamn sudafed back.
 
2011-11-02 11:48:48 AM  
The last 2 (maybe 5?) Presidents used coke. I doubt any of them touched crack.
 
2011-11-02 11:49:05 AM  
But it's still whack though, right?
 
2011-11-02 11:49:29 AM  

theknuckler_33: How is that?


Crack is mostly used by poor black people, so the law was set up to keep them down by incarcerating them for longer periods. Cocaine use has far lighter sentencing, as it is used by white people and also by Whitney Houston who get lower jail terms because they are part of the power elite.

RACISM!
 
2011-11-02 11:49:54 AM  
Arizona won't be happy about this one...
common sense applied to re-writing laws?
is that the sound of 16 hooves I hear?
 
2011-11-02 11:50:13 AM  

Nemo's Brother: The last 2 (maybe 5?) Presidents used coke. I doubt any of them touched crack.


Clinton did, and a large one at that.
 
2011-11-02 11:51:20 AM  
Newsflash: Most drug laws have been created to target certain demographics.
 
2011-11-02 11:52:13 AM  

fireclown: theknuckler_33: How is that?

Crack is mostly used by poor black people, so the law was set up to keep them down by incarcerating them for longer periods. Cocaine use has far lighter sentencing, as it is used by white people and also by Whitney Houston who get lower jail terms because they are part of the power elite.

RACISM!


Isn't it racist to say that this is the case?
 
2011-11-02 11:52:14 AM  

That coward David Lopan: dustlesswalnut: What happens to the people in prison already with the known-to-be-unfair sentences?

You know how I know you didn't read the article?

FTFA: "Ultimately the right answer is 1 to 1, and people in the law enforcement community and the criminal justice system recognize that," said Nachmanoff. "But that just means that there's still more work to do."

I'm for the changes, but I'm not sure I completely agree with this statement. I've seen people who try coke and say, "Meh. Not for me." and never touch it again. Have you ever heard of someone who "tried" crack? I think it still is much more addictive to smoke the rock than snort the powder.


I have tried crack about 8 times. Not really much difference at all except it is cheaper. I used to work in a warehouse and me and buddy would buy some off this other guy we worked with who was a crackhead and play cards and chess all night. Come down is equally as bad as cocaine. Once the novelty wore off and I didn't want any more horrible come downs I stopped buying it. Only someone with mental issues would get addicted to it. Nevertheless, the first hit of the night is a really wonderful feeling. LOL

/sober for years
// thinks crack should be legal
 
2011-11-02 11:53:23 AM  

ongbok: phlegmmo: Congress passed the Fair Sentencing Act in August 2010, changing the 100-to-1 disparity between minimum sentences for crack and powder cocaine to 18 to 1.

Who came up with these ratios in the first place?

Welcome to the crack scare. It was done because supposedly in the 80's crack was a new drug and supposedly was the most addictive drug ever and something had to be done to stop it. Funny how the same type of sentencing discrepancies where never put into place when meth became popular.


Meth spawned its own set of hysterical and stupid laws though. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go take an hour, ID and sign an affidavit to buy a weeks worth of cold medicine.
 
2011-11-02 11:53:24 AM  

Nemo's Brother: The last 2 (maybe 5?) Presidents used coke. I doubt any of them touched crack.



sorry, try as i might, I just can't see Poppy Bush hoovering rails off of Barbara Bush's supple, pouting tatties or tender, pleading love mound.
 
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