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(National Review) Interesting Remember how the GOP hasn't tried to pass any jobs bills? Yeah...about that   (nationalreview.com) divider line 163
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2011-11-01 05:06:34 PM
Trying to close Planned Parenthood doesn't count as a jobs bill. The nutjobs would do that for free.
 
2011-11-01 05:09:22 PM
let me guess; this is about the GOP's current "reaffirm 'in god we trust' as our national motto" bill because it would employ dozens of sign painters and engravers?

/DRTFA
 
2011-11-01 05:22:14 PM
*reads article*
*facepalm*

Tax cuts don't create jobs. As much as you desperately want them to, they don't.
 
2011-11-01 05:24:34 PM
Oh yes, a tax cut. Aren't we still running a deficit?
 
2011-11-01 05:26:13 PM
TAX CUTS for the job creators!!
 
2011-11-01 05:49:29 PM
tax cuts? really?

well, the bush tax cuts were in place for ten years, during which NOT A SINGLE NET JOB WAS CREATED.

on the other hand, direct government spending - something the GOP virulently opposes unless it's off-the-books and spent on bombing brown people - actually does create jobs.

but tax cuts have to work sometime, right???
 
2011-11-01 06:05:05 PM
FlashHarry: tax cuts? really?

but tax cuts have to work sometime, right???


If at first you don't succeed, try, try again!
 
2011-11-01 06:05:41 PM
FlashHarry: tax cuts? really?

well, the bush tax cuts were in place for ten years, during which NOT A SINGLE NET JOB WAS CREATED.

on the other hand, direct government spending - something the GOP virulently opposes unless it's off-the-books and spent on bombing brown people - actually does create jobs.

but tax cuts have to work sometime, right???


i1020.photobucket.com
/pledge it so!
//put it in Park, number 1
 
2011-11-01 06:09:25 PM
actually the GOP have eliminated 370k jobs through their austerity measures.
and they've not proposed anything that would create jobs. just tax cuts for the rich.
 
2011-11-01 06:11:36 PM
You can't ask for money from rich people and we actually have to charge them less because they can then spend more and put us back to work which they never do because they're busy pocketing all the money we give them to put us back to work. What is so hard to understand about that, libtard?
 
2011-11-01 06:12:20 PM
I knew without looking that it would be about more tax cuts.

/the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results
 
2011-11-01 06:16:53 PM
Because "uncertainty."
 
2011-11-01 06:18:18 PM
us.123rf.com

So remember. Nov. 5, vote and vote often.
 
2011-11-01 06:27:25 PM
What the Laffer Curve actually tells us is that there *is* a point at which lowering taxes will increase revenue. We are not even remotely close to that point on the curve right now, and we haven't been for over 40 years. Anyone claiming that tax cuts are a viable solution to our current dilemma is either misinformed or a liar.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2011-11-01 06:31:24 PM
"The House overwhelmingly approved a measure to eliminate a much-maligned rule requiring government agencies to withhold 3 percent of payments to government contractors."


Putting money in the pockets of government contractors and calling it a 'jobs bill' is anti-American.
 
2011-11-01 06:41:38 PM
I'm just going to go ahead and guess without clicking the link that NRO is still pretending that tax cuts create jobs despite the fact that Obama has cut taxes more than Bush did over his entire term.

Well look at that.
 
2011-11-01 06:56:45 PM
BigTuna: What the Laffer Curve actually tells us is that there *is* a point at which lowering taxes will increase revenue.

A point which is likely constantly shifting, on a minute-by-minute basis.
 
2011-11-01 07:19:17 PM
dilbert.com

Relevant.
 
2011-11-01 07:19:49 PM
kronicfeld: BigTuna: What the Laffer Curve actually tells us is that there *is* a point at which lowering taxes will increase revenue.

A point which is likely constantly shifting, on a minute-by-minute basis.


And requires taxes somewhere above 70% according to any independent study.
 
2011-11-01 07:24:13 PM
kronicfeld: BigTuna: What the Laffer Curve actually tells us is that there *is* a point at which lowering taxes will increase revenue.

A point which is likely constantly shifting, on a minute-by-minute basis.


I am constantly amazed by the people who think that the Laffer Curve is some profound insight.

Yes, if you increase taxes to 100%, revenue will drop to zero so there must, logically, come a point where increasing taxes is detrimental.

That part's sound. What's unsound is the way that conservatives interpret that to mean that lowering taxes is always a good idea because if 100% is bad then 50% is better, 25% is better still, and 0% is the VERY BEST OF ALL!

It's called a curve for a reason. Either side of the slope will decrease revenue, so the sensible thing would be to find the optimal point on the curve to set taxes. But that would require some kind of sound economic analysis that might occasionally say that you should increase the tax rate, and you can't have that!
 
2011-11-01 07:24:53 PM
In all fairness, more tax cuts for the rich will create jobs... or rather Jobs, as demand for that particular book of the Bible will skyrocket amongst the newly poor.
 
2011-11-01 07:28:47 PM
i599.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-01 07:29:55 PM
Silais: dilbert.com

also relevant, from Blackadder Goes Forth:

Melchett: Field Marshal Haig has formulated a brilliant new tactical plan to ensure final victory in the field.

Blackadder: Ah. Would this brilliant plan involve us climbing out of our trenches and walking very slowly towards the enemy?

Captain Darling: How could you possibly know that, Blackadder? It's classified information!

Blackadder: It's the same plan that we used last time and the seventeen times before that.

Melchett: Exactly! And that is what is so brilliant about it! It will catch the watchful Hun totally off guard! Doing precisely what we've done eighteen times before is exactly the last thing they'll expect us to do this time! There is, however, one small problem.

Blackadder: That everyone always gets slaughtered in the first ten seconds.
 
2011-11-01 07:51:09 PM
Remember how the GOP hasn't tried to pass any jobs bills? Yeah...about that

It's true.
 
2011-11-01 07:51:12 PM
This was obamas idea, not the gop
 
2011-11-01 07:51:32 PM
FlashHarry: tax cuts? really?

well, the bush tax cuts were in place for ten years, during which NOT A SINGLE NET JOB WAS CREATED.

on the other hand, direct government spending - something the GOP virulently opposes unless it's off-the-books and spent on bombing brown people - actually does create jobs.

but tax cuts have to work sometime, right???


It's like they don't understand the definition of the word futility or something.
 
2011-11-01 07:51:49 PM
The 'job creators' really aren't job creators.
And giving them greater tax breaks doesn't help the situation, it exacerbates the current problem.
It is one of the better big lies out there today.
 
2011-11-01 07:51:49 PM
NFA: "The House overwhelmingly approved a measure to eliminate a much-maligned rule requiring government agencies to withhold 3 percent of payments to government contractors."


Putting money in the pockets of government contractors and calling it a 'jobs bill' is anti-American.


Okay, so Congress can agree that we should give Halliburton more money. I'm sure there wasn't any debate over that one.
 
2011-11-01 07:53:28 PM
BigTuna: What the Laffer Curve actually tells us is that there *is* a point at which lowering taxes will increase revenue. We are not even remotely close to that point on the curve right now, and we haven't been for over 40 years. Anyone claiming that tax cuts are a viable solution to our current dilemma is either misinformed or a liar.

What you said but 30 years.

The curve is a model. We are probably to the left of top dead center, which means some some taxes would probably raise revenue.

I would give a citation, but the boarding door is closed and I need to turn off my phone.
 
2011-11-01 07:55:03 PM
I really shouldn't click on National Liar Online links, and especially should not read the sheeple comment section. Makes me stabby.
 
2011-11-01 07:55:56 PM
Passing one tiny part of a jobs bill, and one that does next to nothing in creating jobs, isn't passing a jobs bill.
 
2011-11-01 07:56:27 PM
If we cut taxes to the job creators who are currently hoarding cash and not hiring due to lower demand.... clearly they will use that extra cash to hire people thereby raising demand thereby raising tax revenue. They won't just continue to pocket it and wait for someone else to hire so they can sell their widgets to them.
 
2011-11-01 07:58:44 PM
Let me fill that in for you subby: "Yeah... about that, they haven't."
 
2011-11-01 07:58:45 PM
Did anybody else notice that when the author referenced Obama's bills, he called them Obama's "jobs" bill and Obama's "deficit" bill? What a farking coont.
 
2011-11-01 07:59:04 PM
NFA: "The House overwhelmingly approved a measure to eliminate a much-maligned rule requiring government agencies to withhold 3 percent of payments to government contractors."


Putting money in the pockets of government contractors and calling it a 'jobs bill' is anti-American.


Actually, it's about as American as it gets...

/disaster capitalism FTL
 
2011-11-01 07:59:24 PM
they've quite successfully passed things off as jobs bills.
 
2011-11-01 08:00:40 PM
Half-truth NRO article is half-truthiness.
 
2011-11-01 08:01:55 PM
GWLush: TAX CUTS for the job creators!!

skulls for the skull throne!!!
 
2011-11-01 08:03:00 PM
Well, if you redefine jobs as tax cuts and anti-abortion the GOP has passed a whole bunch of jobs bills.
 
2011-11-01 08:03:36 PM
To be fair.. there's a few pretty good republican sponsored initiatives in the house that are meant to help *specifically* small entrepreneurs raise capital to try and start small businesses.

One is directly relevant to me and my company and is sponsored by Rep Bob Dold from IL. It's HR 2930 and removes SEC filing and registration requirements from small start-ups that are trying to raise funding through crowd sourcing.

It seems to be "TAX CUTTTSSSS!!" that get all the attention but there's some really good common sense initiatives out there that would help small businesses and entrepreneurs as well.
 
2011-11-01 08:03:36 PM
Obama's "do-nothing Republican Congress" message is hitting home, which is why the GOP drones are writing drivel like this.
 
2011-11-01 08:04:13 PM
Renaming the super-rich as "job creators" was funny for a while, but now I'm really tired of it..

The rich don't create jobs. Jobs are created by the middle class, through their demand for goods and services.

Cutting taxes on CEOs and other super-rich will not cause them to hire more people. They'll just pocket the extra money. Like any rational person would do. They'll only hire more people when called for by increased demand for their product.

If we want to create jobs, we need to strengthen the middle class, whose consumption powers our entire economy.
 
2011-11-01 08:06:22 PM
ghare: This was obamas idea, not the gop

This is something that Obama stupidly put in the bill in an attempt to sweeten it up enough for the GOP to pass. Instead they have, quite predictably, cut it out to try to pass on its own. And if the Senate or Obama shoots it down now they'll be painted as obstructionists. But I'm sure they can trick the GOP into killing it themselves if they attach something worthwhile to it. Or at least get that something worthwhile passed along side it.
 
2011-11-01 08:13:32 PM
is this where they cherrypick the bits they like from Obama's jobs bill (deregulation, tax cuts) and pretend it's a compromise?
 
2011-11-01 08:15:24 PM
What do you mean I'm complaining about my balls hurting but not doing anything to fix it? I'm punching them as hard as I can!
 
2011-11-01 08:16:09 PM
i.imgur.com

This is what Republicans really believe.
 
2011-11-01 08:21:42 PM
Cinaed: The 'job creators' really aren't job creators.

Doc Daneeka: Renaming the super-rich as "job creators" was funny for a while, but now I'm really tired of it..


I prefer 'wealth collectors' or 'resource hoarders'.
 
2011-11-01 08:24:02 PM
BigTuna: What the Laffer Curve actually tells us is that there *is* a point at which lowering taxes will increase revenue. We are not even remotely close to that point on the curve right now, and we haven't been for over 40 years. Anyone claiming that tax cuts are a viable solution to our current dilemma is either misinformed or a liar.

Well the only ones that matter now are members of congress and I think you just described 90% of them.
So we are pretty much farked.
 
2011-11-01 08:24:39 PM
Lessen Agricultural Regulations, Give regulatory authority of clean water supplies to the states (even though water doesn't... you know... stay in one state. Tiered Internet will... uh... save jobs, Transfer power from an agency to a committee, Weaken PRIVATE sector unions, Create a new committee, Lessen Cement Regulations, Lessen Oil Regulations, Lessen Oil Regulations, Lessen Oil Regulations, and tar sands.

When does the GOP just stop with pretenses? It would simpler if they would say what they really want, "We are here to fark you all (except the rich guys who pay us). We are here to destroy the environment. We are here to support oil companies. Oh, and any young men out there should meet we Republicans at the truck stop tonight.
 
2011-11-01 08:24:42 PM
Trying to de-fund medical schools that 'teach' abortions* doesn't count as a jobs bill.


* abortions aren't taught medical school
 
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