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		Kentucky gubernatorial candidate tries desperately to make an issue out of his opponent participating in a Hindu ceremony. Why, yes, he IS a Republican. How did you know? (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com)		212
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FlashHarry		2011-11-01 04:37:19 PM

what a piece of shiat. are there any good republican politicians out there anymore? or are they all fear-mongering fundamentalist whack jobs like this asshole?

Marcus Aurelius		2011-11-01 04:58:07 PM

Williams further told reports: "If I'm a Christian, I don't participate in Jewish prayers. I'm glad they do that. I don't participate in Hindu prayers. I don't participate in Muslim prayers. I don't do that. To get down and get involved and participate in prayers to these polytheistic situations, where you have these Hindu gods that they are praying to, doesn't appear to me to be in line with what a governor of the Commonwealth of Kentucky ought to be doing."

If he worships the invisible triple sky god, then he shouldn't complain about anyone else's polytheism. He's already breaking the first commandment.

exick		2011-11-01 05:20:39 PM

He said he has visited countries that had Hindu ceremonies but declined to participate. "That would be idolatry," he said.

It's fine if you want to believe that, but that has nothing to do with politics or doing your job. And if you think it does have something to do with being the governor of Kentucky, then you are farking doing it wrong!

RexTalionis		2011-11-01 06:03:32 PM

I bet you he wouldn't have a problem with inviting a Hindu to go to Sunday church services, though.

Weaver95		2011-11-01 08:16:00 PM

Williams further told reports: "If I'm a Christian, I don't participate in Jewish prayers. I'm glad they do that. I don't participate in Hindu prayers. I don't participate in Muslim prayers. I don't do that. To get down and get involved and participate in prayers to these polytheistic situations, where you have these Hindu gods that they are praying to, doesn't appear to me to be in line with what a governor of the Commonwealth of Kentucky ought to be doing."

um...that kind of seems to imply a rather large amount of religious intolerance from Williams. I have to wonder how he'd relate to non-christian religions were he to hold high office. if you aren't a member of his particular sect of Christianity then he might not feel the need to treat you equally.

GAT_00		2011-11-01 08:21:28 PM

FlashHarry: are there any good republican politicians out there anymore?

When was the last one? And who was it?

MaudlinMutantMollusk		2011-11-01 08:29:17 PM

Weaver95: Williams further told reports: "If I'm a Christian, I don't participate in Jewish prayers. I'm glad they do that. I don't participate in Hindu prayers. I don't participate in Muslim prayers. I don't do that. To get down and get involved and participate in prayers to these polytheistic situations, where you have these Hindu gods that they are praying to, doesn't appear to me to be in line with what a governor of the Commonwealth of Kentucky ought to be doing."

um...that kind of seems to imply a rather large amount of ~~religious intolerance~~ blatant bigotry from Williams. I have to wonder how he'd relate to non-christian religions were he to hold high office. if you aren't a member of his particular sect of Christianity then he might not feel the need to treat you equally.

Corrected for accuracy

/call it whatever you'd like, this imbecile is nothing more than your basic bigot
//if it ain't the white Jeebus, it ain't right

FlashHarry		2011-11-01 08:32:40 PM

GAT_00: FlashHarry: are there any good republican politicians out there anymore?

When was the last one? And who was it?

i dunno. i voted for chuck hagel for senate in '02, mainly because he was pissing off a bunch of his fellow republicans by saying that cheney and the other chicken hawks ought to be amongst the first troops into baghdad.

lincoln chafee was a decent guy, too. as was jim leach in iowa.

painless42		2011-11-01 08:42:40 PM

Jerri Blank, is that you?

/something something Pagan monkey God...

66dude		2011-11-01 08:46:56 PM

A lot of Republitards are nothing but bigoted pieces of shiat. Thank you Mr. Williams for proving me right. Now go buttfark Jesus.

colithian		2011-11-01 08:47:10 PM

No, idolatry would be actively worshiping pagan gods. From the description, he just kind of sat there and participated out of politeness. Participating in a Hindu ceremony out of cultural tolerance and inclusion isn't idolatry.

austin_millbarge		2011-11-01 08:47:10 PM

Black people have the race card. Republicans have the ignorance/fear card.

CARDS FOR EVERYONE!!!

sgnilward		2011-11-01 08:47:37 PM

Last good one: Ron Gunderson Log Cabin-Wzi

Never made an issue of his personal life, never voted for bigotry, generally moderate fiscally and socially

Sabyen91		2011-11-01 08:47:55 PM

This guy sounds like a bit of an asshole.

Close2TheEdge		2011-11-01 08:48:52 PM

exick: He said he has visited countries that had Hindu ceremonies but declined to participate. "That would be idolatry," he said.

It's fine if you want to believe that, but that has nothing to do with politics or doing your job. And if you think it does have something to do with being the governor of Kentucky, then you are farking doing it wrong!

Well, now let's not be so hasty there. This IS Kentucky we are talking about.

sgnilward		2011-11-01 08:49:00 PM

That should read: log cabin-WI, 3rd district

Sock Ruh Tease		2011-11-01 08:49:42 PM

He'll go far in Kentucky.

Englebert Slaptyback		2011-11-01 08:52:33 PM

desperately to make an issue out of his opponent participating in a Hindu ceremony

Thus putting the "guber" in "gubernatorial".

i'm intellectual and stuff		2011-11-01 08:53:22 PM

I would condemn him, but it's political gold. His goal is to get elected, and in Kentucky, this will get him elected. No harm, no foul.

SnakeLee		2011-11-01 08:53:38 PM

"Yet between his not being pro-life and his support for gambling and now getting down and doing Hindu prayers to these Hindu gods, I think his grandfathers wouldn't be very pleased with Steve Beshear," Williams said.

You're right, I'm sure in the year 1790 things would have been very different. However, it's the 21st century now and you need to stop holding America back you inbred dinosaur.

SoCalSurfer		2011-11-01 08:53:54 PM

Please keep the political derp in the politics tab. Your gonna force me to turn this into a boobs thread

Rozinante		2011-11-01 08:54:09 PM

GAT_00: FlashHarry: are there any good republican politicians out there anymore?

When was the last one? And who was it?

I hear Lincoln was well-regarded. Well, maybe not by everyone.

lisarenee3505		2011-11-01 08:54:12 PM

The world would be a much better place if every registered Republican were to simply stop living. If I could snap my fingers and make that happen I would without losing a moments sleep.

/was that too extreme?
//too farking bad, its actually how I feel

Eshkar		2011-11-01 08:55:35 PM

So let me get this straight... he won't participate in Jewish Prayers because he is a Christian? Let that sink in there for just a minute... Christians claim to be rooted in Judaism, many of their traditions are taken from Judaism, and the guy that taught them how to pray was a Jew... the pray he taught them to pray when asked "teacher how should we pray" was a Jewish prayer in a Jewish format; any time the bigoted racist hayseed says the 'lords pray' he is praying a 'Jewish Prayer'!

DeepThought42		2011-11-01 08:57:47 PM

Nothing says "Well, I'm farked" like your campaign devolving into ripping the incumbent for accepting an invitation to celebrate the creation of jobs. Who knows, this may just be what he needs more of to help him close the gap to Beshear.

"C'mon everybody, get in the truck! We're goin' to the city today! Ol' Willy needs our vote!"

i'm intellectual and stuff		2011-11-01 08:57:59 PM

Eshkar: So let me get this straight... he won't participate in Jewish Prayers because he is a Christian? Let that sink in there for just a minute... Christians claim to be rooted in Judaism, many of their traditions are taken from Judaism, and the guy that taught them how to pray was a Jew... the pray he taught them to pray when asked "teacher how should we pray" was a Jewish prayer in a Jewish format; any time the bigoted racist hayseed says the 'lords pray' he is praying a 'Jewish Prayer'!

IDOLATRY, motherfarker! Idolatry.

Sabyen91		2011-11-01 09:01:10 PM

SoCalSurfer: Please keep the political derp in the politics tab. Your gonna force me to turn this into a boobs thread

Oh, you didn't read the headline before you came in? Honest mistake.

joeyromeo		2011-11-01 09:01:10 PM

I'm almost tempted to support making Christianity the national religion just to get these idiots to shut up.

I mean, if their faith is as weak as it appears, it's not like it'll do any damage.

Allen. The end.		2011-11-01 09:01:56 PM

Allen. The end.		2011-11-01 09:02:40 PM

joeyromeo: I mean, if their faith is as weak as it appears, it's not like it'll do any damage.

It's not their faith I'm worried about...

earthworm2.0		2011-11-01 09:04:27 PM

They can't do that! It's just WRONG! Before you know it, everyone will be praying to all sorts of diffrent gods of thier own choosing, and then where will we be!

david_gaithersburg		2011-11-01 09:04:29 PM

This was published by TPM, why should we believe any of this to be true? If true it is nasty, but again look at the source of the story.

Sybarite		2011-11-01 09:04:41 PM

Religious tolerance; This offer not available in Kan-tucky!

unchellmatt		2011-11-01 09:04:46 PM

Oooohhh, Skycake... WHY ARE YOU SO DELICIOUS!?!

GORDON		2011-11-01 09:05:39 PM

How do I know it was a Republican? Because if it had been a Democrat it would never have been on Fark.

Eshkar		2011-11-01 09:06:14 PM

joeyromeo: I'm almost tempted to support making Christianity the national religion just to get these idiots to shut up.

I mean, if their faith is as weak as it appears, it's not like it'll do any damage.

...Crusades? Inquisition? Dark Ages? Salem Which Trails?

theknuckler_33		2011-11-01 09:06:35 PM

I might be more interested in TFA if the derper appeared to have a prayer of winning the election.

butt-nuggets		2011-11-01 09:06:49 PM

When it comes to politics, the last thing that concerns me is Kentucky.

12349876		2011-11-01 09:07:23 PM

david_gaithersburg: This was published by TPM, why should we believe any of this to be true? If true it is nasty, but again look at the source of the story.

TPM links a local source. So, you're either a lazy dumbass, or a disingenuous motherfarker. Your choice.

GORDON		2011-11-01 09:07:40 PM

lisarenee3505: The world would be a much better place if every registered Republican were to simply stop living. If I could snap my fingers and make that happen I would without losing a moments sleep.

/was that too extreme?
//too farking bad, its actually how I feel

Said it before, I will say it again... scratch a democrat and find a dictator willing to throw peeps into death camps.

People like you make me feel justified in my beliefs.

Fano		2011-11-01 09:11:22 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: desperately to make an issue out of his opponent participating in a Hindu ceremony

Thus putting the "guber" in "gubernatorial".

Please to not be offering my candidate a peanut

cmunic8r99		2011-11-01 09:12:34 PM

GAT_00: FlashHarry: are there any good republican politicians out there anymore?

When was the last one? And who was it?

eisenhowerforeignpolicy.edublogs.org

Eshkar		2011-11-01 09:12:39 PM

Allen. The end.: Eshkar: So let me get this straight... he won't participate in Jewish Prayers because he is a Christian? Let that sink in there for just a minute... Christians claim to be rooted in Judaism, many of their traditions are taken from Judaism, and the guy that taught them how to pray was a Jew... the pray he taught them to pray when asked "teacher how should we pray" was a Jewish prayer in a Jewish format; any time the bigoted racist hayseed says the 'lords pray' he is praying a 'Jewish Prayer'!

Nope! Because "JESUS", that's why!

/and the "Lord's Prayer" wasn't in the earlier versions of the bible, as it DIDN'T EXIST.

//Have hope, Kentuckians!! I am in Alabama right now, and things could be worse....much worse....

Yeah I have never heard that but I am not to familiar with the 'new testament', I'm Jewish. But still.

joeyromeo		2011-11-01 09:13:04 PM

Eshkar: joeyromeo: I'm almost tempted to support making Christianity the national religion just to get these idiots to shut up.

I mean, if their faith is as weak as it appears, it's not like it'll do any damage.

...Crusades? Inquisition? Dark Ages? Salem Which Trails?

Republicans aren't likely to show that kind of initiative.

What's the principal difference between Democrats and Republicans, no snark? The former fights for things-- the latter fights against things.

So give them what they want for a few months. Put Christianity everywhere and eliminate all taxes for people making over $200,000. Then Republicans won't have anything to do. I'm pretty sure most will simply self-destruct. Others will run off to cabins in the hills, sucking their thumbs and picking their butts in confusion.

Then we can put everything back to normal and get on with life and fixing the country already, with nary a one of them to get in the way.

theknuckler_33		2011-11-01 09:13:52 PM

lisarenee3505: The world would be a much better place if every registered Republican were to simply stop living. If I could snap my fingers and make that happen I would without losing a moments sleep.

/was that too extreme?
//too farking bad, its actually how I feel

What if you could do that and that would happen with the side-effect of it happening to you too?

GentDirkly		2011-11-01 09:15:12 PM

Christian here.
Being there while other people pray, taking it in and showing respect to them, is actually encouraged by my reading of scripture. Participating, however, is not. No and never. They have a right to invite you to participate in their prayer and tradition and you have a right to invite them, but taking them up on their offer is simply not allowed, not without a LOT of explanation on your part, perhaps in the vein of Paul explaining his reverence for the "unknown god" statue in Athens, if you want to look that up.
All that said, this article's description of events is far too vague for me to pass judgement on either guy, and ultimately even if I knew every external detail, it is a matter of the heart. The guy did scoop their dirt and get into their prayerful pose. The opponent is using religion in a highly divisive way without the purpose of proselytizing or 'building the kingdom'. I think Paul would have a problem with both of them.

Ed Willy		2011-11-01 09:16:10 PM

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of unemployed people in Kentucky who would be glad for the governor participating if it means a shot at a job for them or a member of their family. And since most people in Kentucky are related, that's a huge percentage of the voters.

//Sorry Drew, joke must be told.

rubi_con_man		2011-11-01 09:16:13 PM

colithian: No, idolatry would be actively worshiping pagan gods. From the description, he just kind of sat there and participated out of politeness. Participating in a Hindu ceremony out of cultural tolerance and inclusion isn't idolatry.

This.

In a lot of ways, being Mayor or Governor or President or Monarch means that you have to participate in a lot of public ceremonial crap that you may or may not personally support, but that you ,as the personification of the state or town or nation, have to be present in, to demonstrate its overall virtue and wholesomeness. To be absent is to proclaim that the whole business is unfit and should be cast out - it opens the doors to all kinds of petty-vigilante crap.

Sabyen91		2011-11-01 09:17:55 PM

GentDirkly: Christian here.
Being there while other people pray, taking it in and showing respect to them, is actually encouraged by my reading of scripture. Participating, however, is not. No and never. They have a right to invite you to participate in their prayer and tradition and you have a right to invite them, but taking them up on their offer is simply not allowed, not without a LOT of explanation on your part, perhaps in the vein of Paul explaining his reverence for the "unknown god" statue in Athens, if you want to look that up.
All that said, this article's description of events is far too vague for me to pass judgement on either guy, and ultimately even if I knew every external detail, it is a matter of the heart. The guy did scoop their dirt and get into their prayerful pose. The opponent is using religion in a highly divisive way without the purpose of proselytizing or 'building the kingdom'. I think Paul would have a problem with both of them.

You are the arbiter of all things Christian?