dogette: Every time there is a problem, breakdown and mechanical "Ehh, just send them up."

I'm going to have to ask you to run this through the translator again.

shifter_: bulldg4life: Since when can these things land without the landing gear and not turn in to rolling tumbling fireballs?

Nothing beats a good pilot. Regardless of anything else he should be given a medal for his calm and skill.
230 people can smile and see thier families this afternoon thanks to the crew of that aircraft.

Except for that one shifty bastard that tried to sabotage the landing gear

Charlie Freak: bulldg4life: Since when can these things land without the landing gear and not turn in to rolling tumbling fireballs?

You go as slow as you can and touch everything down aft of the center of gravity as much as possible. Then you keep giving it back pressure to take as much weight off the fore parts of the aircraft (as well as adding aerodynamic drag) until it's impossible to de-rotate. Hopefully you're going slowly enough at that point that nothing digs in.

Unless the fuselage is cracked or there's any damage to the pressure bulkhead, they'll replace the engines, maybe the flaps, and put the aircraft back in service.

This is why (or at least how) I justify my fear of take-off but how I love landing - with landing, at least in situations like this, you've already slowed down quite a bit. And if done the way you describe - and with steady hands - it lands on its belly.

Take-off, though, terrifies me. Back in July I was flying from Tampa to Boston with a connection in DC. The flight from Tampa to DC was perfect. Once at DC, we were delayed on the tarmac for an hour due to a storm. They finally cleared us to take off. Several minutes after take-off, while the plane was still angled up slightly, it suddenly dropped what felt like several feet but probably was really only a few inches. It was sudden and startling enough that I immediately looked up, wondering if the oxygen masks would drop.

probesport: Smeggy Smurf: BarbadoSlim: Given these people's reputation for buffoonery, should they even be allowed to operate aircraft?

We let Floridians fly

Just because that's the only way to get them to Florida.

Interstate 95 & 10 beg to differ

air_wx: Here's a big picture of the SP-LPC as it made contact. Link (new window) It's too big to post in-line.

Thats awesome

Yodacat: probesport: WTFDYW: Yodacat: So we got a NEWSFLASH to inform us that something almost happened, but really someone's plane just got dinged up.

You would have preferred a firey crash that vaporized all 230 on board?

What's your point?

It's just Tagbiatching™, welcome to Fark.

I'd call it more of a non-story biatch. Is there anything MORE Not News than "Airplane injures nobody". And for those of us that get newflashes texted to us for the Not Not News, it's a very slight annoyance. I had to set my coffee down to click my mouse twice and see what the story was.

/Annoyed at the number of news stories that can be condensed to "Nothing Happened"

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aevorea: Charlie Freak: bulldg4life: Since when can these things land without the landing gear and not turn in to rolling tumbling fireballs?

You go as slow as you can and touch everything down aft of the center of gravity as much as possible. Then you keep giving it back pressure to take as much weight off the fore parts of the aircraft (as well as adding aerodynamic drag) until it's impossible to de-rotate. Hopefully you're going slowly enough at that point that nothing digs in.

Unless the fuselage is cracked or there's any damage to the pressure bulkhead, they'll replace the engines, maybe the flaps, and put the aircraft back in service.

This is why (or at least how) I justify my fear of take-off but how I love landing - with landing, at least in situations like this, you've already slowed down quite a bit. And if done the way you describe - and with steady hands - it lands on its belly.

Take-off, though, terrifies me. Back in July I was flying from Tampa to Boston with a connection in DC. The flight from Tampa to DC was perfect. Once at DC, we were delayed on the tarmac for an hour due to a storm. They finally cleared us to take off. Several minutes after take-off, while the plane was still angled up slightly, it suddenly dropped what felt like several feet but probably was really only a few inches. It was sudden and startling enough that I immediately looked up, wondering if the oxygen masks would drop.

It was likely still climbing over a thousand feet per minute, it just lost some of those climb feet per minute (which probably amounted to a couple hundredths to maybe a few tenths of a G) and that deceleration only made it feel like you were falling.

You're right to feel vulnerable on takeoff, but the most critical point is only for a few seconds and it's done and gone by the time the nose rotates (unless you have a double flame-out, which is exceedingly rare on takeoff). Once you're in the air and the engines are still doing their suck-squeeze-bang-blow thing, you're going to be fine. That said, if something catastrophic happens while you're still accelerating on the runway, yeah, you're often boned.

But truth be told, there are a lot more things that can go wrong on landing and the majority of them involve loss of directional control (due to gusty winds, blown tires, bad piloting, or contaminated runways). You're going from a fluid environment (the air) into one with suddenly a lot more friction and you're trying to bring hundreds of tons to a stop in an area several thousand feet long by only 150-200 wide, often in poor visibility and/or low ceilings.

Those of you who have experience hard landings - it was likely during gusty crosswinds. It is not easy, nor should you try to grease it on in those conditions. Just stick it firmly and change your boxers back at the terminal.

hagar129: Are the polish really that stupid? Serious question here, great jokes but they aren't really stupid.

Not as stupid as you for having to ask that question.

KangTheMad: hagar129: Are the polish really that stupid? Serious question here, great jokes but they aren't really stupid.

Not as stupid as you for having to ask that question.

But are Kenyans fast runners?

wtf? That didn't show in the preview.

Html fail. Sorry.

Oh, goodie. I can now expect my dad to ask me "How many Polocks does it take to crash an airplane?" by the end of the day. o_o'

I hope to god people don't come to fark for pilot lessons