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(BusinessWeek) Obvious Congress finally realizes that repealing Glass Steagle was the stupidest thing they've done in the past 15 years   (businessweek.com) divider line 193
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2011-11-01 06:41:42 AM
"Oops! Our bad!"
 
2011-11-01 09:40:19 AM
Generally yes. There's room for argument in a *few* places.

I like the momentum in this direction, so I'm going to refrain.

However, this is specifically about derivatives. Don't kick people like Brooksley Born in the babymaker next time, market fundamentalists.
 
2011-11-01 09:43:23 AM
Will someone please fix the spelling before this becomes a thing?
 
2011-11-01 09:47:10 AM
Party Boy: There's room for argument in a *few* places.

meaning, you can talk about the good things about crack Gramm-Leach-Bliley, but - fark it.
 
2011-11-01 09:51:37 AM
Congress finally realizes that repealing Glass Steagle Seagull was the stupidest thing they've done in the past 15 years

Uncle Wiggly: Will someone please fix the spelling before this becomes a thing?

i.imgur.com
 
2011-11-01 09:59:57 AM
The bankers and lobbyists pouring millions into campaign coffers will insure that there's no going back.

Citizens Unite!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-11-01 10:21:27 AM
favored treatment of derivative contracts in receivership

Why are derivative contracts favored?
 
2011-11-01 10:49:45 AM
That's $53 TRILLION of risky derivitaves that are now insured by - you guessed it - you and me and the FDIC.
 
2011-11-01 10:51:19 AM
Therion: The bankers and lobbyists pouring millions into campaign coffers will insure that there's no going back.

Citizens Unite!


That horse left the barn back in 1999, which, coincidentally, is how the bankers are partying like.
 
2011-11-01 11:12:54 AM
Uncle Wiggly: Will someone please fix the spelling before this becomes a thing?

www.glassartists.org


Neh, too late.
 
2011-11-01 11:21:07 AM

Oh, fine ...

i1207.photobucket.com



photo stolen from: http://www.diaryofamadhausfrau.com/2011/07/banana-macsplits-mactweets- challenge-22.html
 
2011-11-01 11:23:56 AM
Glass Steagle
 
2011-11-01 11:26:10 AM
Worst? It accomplished exactly what Phill Gramm wanted.
 
2011-11-01 12:07:36 PM
Headline is four words too long.
 
2011-11-01 12:07:41 PM
FTA:

"What Bank of America is doing is perfectly legal -- and that's the problem," Hinchey said.

Hinchey is among more than 40 House lawmakers who have signed on to a bill that would reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act, the Depression-era law that enforced separation of depository institutions from investment operations before it was partially repealed in 1999.

"The FDIC is in effect being forced to insure Wall Street's risk-taking," Hinchey said in a statement. "This is the opposite of capitalism -- the risks are socialized and the benefits are privatized."

Wow.
 
2011-11-01 12:08:41 PM
The only thing that possibly could've been better would be if McCain had been elected President and Phil Gramm because secretary of the Treasury.

He could've overseen the recovery from the collapse that he had a part in creating.

It seems life doesn't always have a wonderful sense of humor.
 
2011-11-01 12:09:08 PM
Mentat: Worst? It accomplished exactly what Phill Gramm wanted.

The lead singer from Foreginer orchestrated this whole thing?
 
2011-11-01 12:09:09 PM
"Because of the favored treatment of derivative contracts in receivership, it appears highly likely that losses on derivatives would result in losses to insured deposits ultimately borne by taxpayers,"

this is the good kinda socialism.
 
2011-11-01 12:10:07 PM
Red team good blue team bad.
 
2011-11-01 12:11:59 PM
More stupid than passing the patriot act?
 
2011-11-01 12:12:27 PM
Outrage
WHERE
FROM
RpuBliCAN
Wher
 
2011-11-01 12:12:32 PM
One could hope.

Unfortunately, Congress has gotten their tongues so far up the financial sector's ass, they've formed a Congressional Centipede
 
Ehh
2011-11-01 12:12:34 PM
Scurvy Dog: Mentat: Worst? It accomplished exactly what Phill Gramm wanted.

The lead singer from Foreginer orchestrated this whole thing?


The illuminati are a smokescreen to keep you from even thinking about rock stars.
 
2011-11-01 12:12:49 PM
Congress is doing WHAT to Lesbian Seagull? Why? It's some of Engelbert Humperdinck's finest work?!?!
 
2011-11-01 12:14:06 PM
Free market capitalism. It always fails...
 
2011-11-01 12:14:15 PM
Those clowns in congress did it again! What a bunch of clowns.

/Don't praise the machine
 
2011-11-01 12:14:15 PM
Ehh: Scurvy Dog: Mentat: Worst? It accomplished exactly what Phill Gramm wanted.

The lead singer from Foreginer orchestrated this whole thing?

The illuminati are a smokescreen to keep you from even thinking about rock stars.


Perhaps... or are the rock stars a smokescreen to keep us from thinking about the Illuminati?
 
2011-11-01 12:14:37 PM
Ah, feel that trickle-down goodness we're being showered with.
 
2011-11-01 12:16:32 PM
Chances of them putting it back together RIGHT are........low.

All the king's most corrupted horses and all the king's most incompetent and weak-willed men.
 
2011-11-01 12:17:48 PM
bulldg4life: The only thing that possibly could've been better would be if McCain had been elected President and Phil Gramm because secretary of the Treasury.

He could've overseen the recovery from the collapse that he had a part in creating.

It seems life doesn't always have a wonderful sense of humor.


What you posted doesn't parse. Anyway, McCain didn't want to be president. If he had, he'd be running again and he isn't. The truth is, nobody wanted to have to get elbow deep in this financial mess so the republicans stepped aside. The only ones who were upset were their constituents who still don't get that they threw the race on purpose and told Obama "Better you than one of us, dummy. Enjoy that nightmare of an economy, because it's all yours now.".
 
2011-11-01 12:18:03 PM
I'm not worried because the market will fix it.
 
2011-11-01 12:18:12 PM
Therion: The bankers and lobbyists pouring millions into campaign coffers will insure that there's no going back.

Citizens Unite!


Citizens united does not effect campaign contributions you ignorant pos
 
2011-11-01 12:18:51 PM
sheilanagig: What you posted doesn't parse.

I think "because" should be changed to "become"
 
2011-11-01 12:19:38 PM
The PATRIOT ACT sobs in the corner
 
2011-11-01 12:19:50 PM
AMonkey'sUncle: Outrage
WHERE
FROM
RpuBliCAN
Wher


They're busy being outragd by checking account fees that could run into the tens of dollars.
 
2011-11-01 12:20:03 PM
Party Boy: However, this is specifically about derivatives. Don't kick people like Brooksley Born in the babymaker next time, market fundamentalists.

I saw a Frontline piece about her, pissed me off to no end. And she was 100% correct. I think they all knew she was right too, based on the way she was treated. I think the meltdown was acceptable, if not actually desired, by the economic puppetmasters.
 
2011-11-01 12:20:46 PM
Thelyphthoric: Congress is doing WHAT to Lesbian Seagull? Why? It's some of Engelbert Humperdinck's finest work?!?!

Holy shiat I had no idea that wasn't originally written for Beavis and Butthead. Awesome. And horrifying.
 
2011-11-01 12:21:50 PM
MyRandomName: Therion: The bankers and lobbyists pouring millions into campaign coffers will insure that there's no going back.

Citizens Unite!

Citizens united does not effect campaign contributions you ignorant pos


How does it not?
 
2011-11-01 12:23:23 PM
www.entertainmentearth.com
 
2011-11-01 12:24:18 PM
Scurvy Dog: Mentat: Worst? It accomplished exactly what Phill Gramm wanted.

The lead singer from Foreginer orchestrated this whole thing?


The Su-Su-sudio guy?
 
2011-11-01 12:24:30 PM
I'm as OUTRAGED as the rest of you 99%ers using all-caps, but can I ask a question? FDIC insurance is up to $250,000 per account, and most of these accounts that make up the $53 trillion are themselves hundred million or billions of dollars. Yes, it would suck if the account owners claimed their $250,000 on failed accounts, but wouldn't they basically be picking up a floating life jacket from a sunken Titanic?
 
2011-11-01 12:25:02 PM
Odds are this gets about a total of two minutes news time. Then some talking heads might debate it poorly and misleadingly. After that more "We really dont understand why people are upset with Wall Street, they just seem to be sitting there for no reason. Maybe its a coincidence that they're in the vicinity"
 
2011-11-01 12:25:25 PM
Snowflake Tubbybottom: Scurvy Dog: Mentat: Worst? It accomplished exactly what Phill Gramm wanted.

The lead singer from Foreginer orchestrated this whole thing?

The Su-Su-sudio guy?


I think that was Colin Quinn.
 
2011-11-01 12:26:00 PM
Snowflake Tubbybottom: Scurvy Dog: Mentat: Worst? It accomplished exactly what Phill Gramm wanted.

The lead singer from Foreginer orchestrated this whole thing?

The Su-Su-sudio guy?


Huey Lewis? He's too black sounding for me.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-11-01 12:27:39 PM
mytdawg: Ah, feel that trickle-down goodness we're being showered with.

deadwildroses.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-11-01 12:27:44 PM
The repeal of Glass Steagall had very little, if anything, to do with the financial crisis, btw. It wouldn't have prevented the bubble or the increase in securitization that occurred during the bubble.

That said, it probably wasn't the right move to repeal it. This transaction in particular, like TFA says, shows why.

However, now that it's been repealed, it's alot more difficult to put back in place. Like putting the worms back in the can. Probably have to be phased back in over time. At least people in Congress are talking about this issue.
 
2011-11-01 12:28:28 PM
And I'm sure this will include better regulations of Fannie and Freddie.
 
2011-11-01 12:29:49 PM
Really? Stupider than invading Iraq?
 
2011-11-01 12:31:54 PM
drb9: I'm as OUTRAGED as the rest of you 99%ers using all-caps, but can I ask a question? FDIC insurance is up to $250,000 per account, and most of these accounts that make up the $53 trillion are themselves hundred million or billions of dollars. Yes, it would suck if the account owners claimed their $250,000 on failed accounts, but wouldn't they basically be picking up a floating life jacket from a sunken Titanic?

The concern is if that if the derivatives turn bad, costing BoA some fraction (and it would be a very tiny fraction at worst) of the notional derivatives, it would reduce the available capital at the bank. If it gets bad enough, the FDIC would have to come in and insure any real depositors losses. So to continue your Titanic analogy, it would be like the derivatives would use up a the first bunch of lifeboats, leaving fewer lifeboats for the other passengers, meaning the Carpathia (FDIC) would have to rescue more, or something.
 
2011-11-01 12:33:57 PM
drb9: I'm as OUTRAGED as the rest of you 99%ers using all-caps, but can I ask a question? FDIC insurance is up to $250,000 per account, and most of these accounts that make up the $53 trillion are themselves hundred million or billions of dollars. Yes, it would suck if the account owners claimed their $250,000 on failed accounts, but wouldn't they basically be picking up a floating life jacket from a sunken Titanic?

Derivatives are not FDIC insured despite the misleading article.

Only deposit accounts are (checking, savings, CD's, etc.).
 
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