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(Some Guy) Followup Photographer doing a mom/newborn baby shoot asks the father to join in a couple of shots on a whim. Four days later, he returned to Afghanistan and was killed with twelve others by a suicide bomber. Here is that last photo with his baby girl   (erikhornung.com) divider line 177
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2011-10-31 09:34:36 PM
Damn allergies...
 
2011-10-31 09:41:10 PM
He lived in the same town as me. I didn't personally know him, but we have a number of mutual friends. RIP, Brother.
 
2011-10-31 09:52:34 PM
If this doesn't make you angry enough to take to the streets, or rooftops, maybe forever war is what you love.
 
2011-10-31 10:01:07 PM
That is just sad.
 
2011-11-01 12:25:37 AM
Wow, there sure is a lot of dust in here...
 
2011-11-01 12:41:42 AM
farm7.static.flickr.com
 
2011-11-01 02:36:59 AM
strathcona: He lived in the same town as me. I didn't personally know him, but we have a number of mutual friends. RIP, Brother.

Ah, Morinville. Gateway to Legal, they say.

/RIP Master Corporal Greff, your service honours us
 
2011-11-01 02:44:30 AM
Oh...oh, Dad, go open the gates for that young soldier there...stick with him until he gets his bearings.

you f*ckin Taliban are gonna pay for this

you will pay, and pay and PAY, and then you will CRY and pay!
 
2011-11-01 03:35:40 AM
:(

I'm so glad I stocked up on Kleenex yesterday.
 
2011-11-01 04:11:55 AM
Dammit subby!
Precious photo.

/good PR for photographer
 
2011-11-01 04:15:54 AM
Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.
 
2011-11-01 04:18:09 AM
users.content.ytmnd.com


/bought their tickets
//knew what they were getting into
///wrong day to quitk drinkin' "=S
 
2011-11-01 04:20:33 AM
urban.derelict: [users.content.ytmnd.com image 420x300]

/bought their tickets
//knew what they were getting into
///wrong day to quitk drinkin' "=S


Hmm... I'm against the war too, but you, sir, are what is known in these parts as an "asshole".
 
2011-11-01 04:20:52 AM
While the story is sad, I really dont like that this is being used by the photographer basically as an advertisement. Story put up by his family I'd be fine with. But the photographer telling the reader that this is a reason we should all get more photographs taken of us and our families comes off as more than a little self serving. Feel bad for the family regardless.
 
2011-11-01 04:21:36 AM
Suede head: Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.

This is true. We also happen to have a volunteer army, so this guy signed up to go shoot at brown people as far as I am concerned.

My sister and brother in law are both currently deployed. Still occupiers in a foreign land, and as much as I wish for their safety, I can't blame anyone who is willing to kill them for occupying their homeland.

All that said, remember that we live in a democracy and the majority elected the officials that sent our troops to these unjust wars. That is what you should be mad at, not the soldiers who are following orders (which does not make them blameless; if every soldier refused to occupy it wouldn't happen, but our country would be torn apart).
 
2011-11-01 04:22:07 AM
Wait, so the photographer was also an active duty soldier with a child?
 
2011-11-01 04:22:13 AM
Suede head: Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.

Not sure if trolling or just completely heartless...
 
2011-11-01 04:23:19 AM
Isn't this just the last photo this photographer took, it's not like it was the last time the guy saw his kid or the last photograph of them together. As sad as the story is, what makes this picture remarkable? Wouldn't all soldiers with kids have a picture with that kid as a baby?

Wow, good thing I read the linked CTV article and noticed his age. I could have sworn the fark headline said "four years later". Sad indeed.
 
2011-11-01 04:26:40 AM
sedgr: While the story is sad, I really dont like that this is being used by the photographer basically as an advertisement. Story put up by his family I'd be fine with. But the photographer telling the reader that this is a reason we should all get more photographs taken of us and our families comes off as more than a little self serving. Feel bad for the family regardless.

Yes, that was tacky. TFA also had his wedding photos linked. AW'ing, ruthless and thinly veiled advertising.

/savvy
 
2011-11-01 04:28:41 AM
Tommy Moo: asshole

That's right and they go off to foreign lands to protect illegal drug crops that run parallel to the oil pipelines to protect my freedom to say that.

/denislearysasshole.mp3
 
2011-11-01 04:28:49 AM
Well y'know he could have chosen a line of work that didn't involve getting shot at by crazed muslims..

Yes its sad. But no moreso than the other 4000+ men and women who've died needless in that hellhole.
 
2011-11-01 04:29:08 AM
Can someone remind me why we're squandering these people's lives?
 
2011-11-01 04:29:27 AM
Suede head: Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.

i556.photobucket.com

/Probably both
//Yeah, both
 
2011-11-01 04:29:59 AM
dinserdinser: Suede head: Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.

Not sure if trolling or just completely heartless...


I doubt he's trolling. I share his opinion.

I have no doubt that a large portion of US forces, if told that US citizens were a grave threat and they must come home to shoot people here, they would do so.
 
2011-11-01 04:32:21 AM
Suede head: Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.

1/10.

Or you're a coont.

You pick.
 
2011-11-01 04:32:37 AM
AbbeySomeone: Yes, that was tacky. TFA also had his wedding photos linked. AW'ing, ruthless and thinly veiled advertising.

QFT
 
2011-11-01 04:34:04 AM
tankjr: I have no doubt that a large portion of US forces, if told that US citizens were a grave threat and they must come home to shoot people here, they would do so.

And you're a stupid coont.
 
2011-11-01 04:37:10 AM
dinserdinser: Suede head: Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.

Not sure if trolling or just completely heartless...


Trolling, made clear by the use of the "brown people" canard. Americans who think anyone in the Middle East is "brown" are as bigoted, backwards and racist as those whose actions they decry. And I'm an Obama-supporting, anti-war (usually) liberal. I hate it when people who claim to be enlightened display such a lack of critical thought.

"Brown people." "Loose" instead of "lose." "Dribble" when one means "drivel." "Family values." "Liberal media." Use of any of these terms indicates an ignorant mind. Beware.

Boo!
 
2011-11-01 04:38:01 AM
Timing is everything, except when it's not.

I am very sad when things like this happen. On the other hand, it's not like this was some kind of moral judgement against the little kid.

Shiat happens. Get over it and move on.

I've had to shed a tear from time to time. It happens. It's really sad when bad things happen to good people, yadda yadda yadda. We have to deal with it.
 
2011-11-01 04:38:56 AM
I'm not trying to troll here, but I still don't understand why married people join the military. I did 6 years active duty plus 2 in the army reserve when I was in my 20s, but when I was serious about a woman and wanted to get married, I left the military. No second thoughts, no regrets, I simply thought it would be irresponsible of me as a family man to risk my life in such a way when I had others depending on me. I am not trying to say it is bad to be a family man in the military, I just don't know how they can risk their lives every day knowing that it isn't just their ass on the line, but that if they die, there is a family that will suffer without them.
 
2011-11-01 04:39:24 AM
Why would you get someone pregnant when you're in the military and the country is involved in several "kinetic actions"? That seems a bit cruel itself.
 
2011-11-01 04:39:54 AM
How tragic. Anyone got pictures of any of the thousands of Afghan babies left fatherless by American attacks with their fathers?
 
2011-11-01 04:40:43 AM
i232.photobucket.com
Is this how you played fark?
 
2011-11-01 04:42:11 AM
ArcadianRefugee: Wait, so the photographer was also an active duty soldier with a child?

No, the newborn was.
 
2011-11-01 04:43:46 AM
Suede head: Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.

Trying to hard, dude. You should have just stuck with something simple, like, "Good. I wish the Taliban would kill more of them." See, it is short, simple, conveys tons of hatred and contempt, and most important of all, it does not come across as if you were trying to hard. The key to a successful troll is to NOT make it look like you are trolling. Phrases like "state-sanctioned murderers" are a dead give away to a troll. Keep at it, though. You show promise.
 
2011-11-01 04:43:47 AM
Remember, 12 people died, plus 5 Afghanis.

But the afghanis don't count as people, because brown people don't have souls.
 
2011-11-01 04:43:51 AM
You have to admire the dedication of some photographers, but sometimes their ambition can blow up in their face.
 
2011-11-01 04:43:58 AM
urban.derelict: That's right and they go off to foreign lands to protect illegal drug crops that run parallel to the oil pipelines to protect my freedom to say that.


Considering that there are no pipelines running through Afghanistan I'm giving you 2/10.
 
2011-11-01 04:44:43 AM
MadAzza: dinserdinser: Suede head: Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.

Not sure if trolling or just completely heartless...

Trolling, made clear by the use of the "brown people" canard. Americans who think anyone in the Middle East is "brown" are as bigoted, backwards and racist as those whose actions they decry. And I'm an Obama-supporting, anti-war (usually) liberal. I hate it when people who claim to be enlightened display such a lack of critical thought.

"Brown people." "Loose" instead of "lose." "Dribble" when one means "drivel." "Family values." "Liberal media." Use of any of these terms indicates an ignorant mind. Beware.

Boo!


I think most liberals (myself included) that use the "shoot brown people" statement do so to criticize the ignorance of those doing the shooting, I don't really think it has anything to do with what we think the actual color of people in the middle east is. lol though.
 
2011-11-01 04:44:47 AM
*too hard.
 
2011-11-01 04:45:19 AM
Fett56: Suede head: Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.

This is true. We also happen to have a volunteer army, so this guy signed up to go shoot at brown people as far as I am concerned.

My sister and brother in law are both currently deployed. Still occupiers in a foreign land, and as much as I wish for their safety, I can't blame anyone who is willing to kill them for occupying their homeland.

All that said, remember that we live in a democracy and the majority elected the officials that sent our troops to these unjust wars. That is what you should be mad at, not the soldiers who are following orders (which does not make them blameless; if every soldier refused to occupy it wouldn't happen, but our country would be torn apart).


I hope a friend (if you have any), or a family member brings this up when they get home for Christmas or whatever.
You must be quite a guy, or girl.
Whatever.
 
2011-11-01 04:46:42 AM
Sad

What a waste. We could have our soldiers building schools in third world countries and it would do more good and not involve getting these guys killed.

WTF people? Are you so jaded and soulless you can't separate personal feelings of US foreign policy from that of individual soldiers. No doubt some soldiers are bad people but there are assholes who work for red cross as well.
 
2011-11-01 04:46:46 AM
Suede head: Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.

Or even better, you should have gone a silver lining troll. For example,

Yeah! A newly single woman on the market."
 
2011-11-01 04:47:01 AM
ArkAngel: Wow, there sure is a lot of dust in here...

You win!

img801.imageshack.us
 
2011-11-01 04:48:45 AM
calm like a bomb: tankjr: I have no doubt that a large portion of US forces, if told that US citizens were a grave threat and they must come home to shoot people here, they would do so.

And you're a stupid coont.


Nope, sorry. I've had several conversations in recent days with both active duty and retired military personal. While the majority don't hold this belief, a large number of them do.
 
2011-11-01 04:49:00 AM
2wolves: If this doesn't make you angry enough to take to the streets, or rooftops, maybe forever war is what you love.

The military is a risky business and it's voluntary. Not only that, but the Taliban and their Afganistan are the ones who supported 9/11 more than the rest. They're the ones who called down the thunder.

It's sad we can't pull out yet, but governments don't grow overnight. The Japanese are friends now. Maybe one day the Afganis will be too, if they can learn how to kill insurgents in a way so horrible people would rather risk the insurgents' wrath than the governments. Maybe we can get the Zetas to open up a cartel in Afganistan for heroin.

Anyway, it's sad the guy died, but he's not the only person who died in there and quite frankly if there's one country we should be risking Americans in it's the one that did us the most damage on our home turf since the CSA.
 
2011-11-01 04:49:41 AM
D_S_W: Fett56: Suede head: Nope, still not feeling any sympathy. Soldiers are amoral, state-sanctioned murderers who kill whoever they are ordered to kill. If this guy was told that Tajikistan or Papua New Guinea was a grave threat and he must shoot people there then he would do it.

This is true. We also happen to have a volunteer army, so this guy signed up to go shoot at brown people as far as I am concerned.

My sister and brother in law are both currently deployed. Still occupiers in a foreign land, and as much as I wish for their safety, I can't blame anyone who is willing to kill them for occupying their homeland.

All that said, remember that we live in a democracy and the majority elected the officials that sent our troops to these unjust wars. That is what you should be mad at, not the soldiers who are following orders (which does not make them blameless; if every soldier refused to occupy it wouldn't happen, but our country would be torn apart).

I hope a friend (if you have any), or a family member brings this up when they get home for Christmas or whatever.
You must be quite a guy, or girl.
Whatever.


If there were men in the streets of my city with guns and tanks, I'd be scheming with my buddies all day to blow them up. That's all I'm saying. It is perfectly understandable that these people want to kill us for being in their land.

I'd be doing the same. Why is this an unpatriotic or particularly crazy position to hold?

Hell, how many of the 9/11 hijackers were Afghani/Iraqi? Oh right, none.
 
2011-11-01 04:55:18 AM
Thank you for your service.
 
2011-11-01 04:56:44 AM
Ah yes. The immortal perfect father. That'll be the best and worst relationship this child will ever have. And thank goodness for that much. No time for mom and dad to fight about how much dad goes away. No time for daddy to come home with the shakes and get angry a lot. No time for mom to say its time to go stay with gramma for a while. No time for daddy to be asking mom's new husband if he can see his girl between deployments.

She'll never disappoint her immortal hero father. She'll never earn his respect either. She'll do all sorts of things to win his approval and then to get away from his image. Her life, with respect to her immortal hero father, will suck because nothing she ever does will be that important and nothing he ever did will be good enough.
 
2011-11-01 04:56:47 AM
tankjr: calm like a bomb: tankjr: I have no doubt that a large portion of US forces, if told that US citizens were a grave threat and they must come home to shoot people here, they would do so.

And you're a stupid coont.

Nope, sorry. I've had several conversations in recent days with both active duty and retired military personal. While the majority don't hold this belief, a large number of them do.


Oh, you're one of those people who believes any amount of bullshiat one cares to spew. I think that acutally is one of the qualifications of being a stupid coont.
 
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