billii: Why is all of a sudden wrong to have a finger necklace

It is sad that you only look at the finger necklace, not the entire story.

It is also scary that you don't see anything wrong with this man's actions...

Weaver95: that's like saying someone was being furiously calm and happily depressed.

That's quite the colorless green idea...

Thank you for your service.

ParallelUniverseParking: RexTalionis: billii: Oh I see plenty wrong with the man's actions. The problem is that we train soldiers to kill and expect them to turn off their warrior mentality when they come home War sucks, death sucks and peoples inhumanity towards mankind sucks. I know. I was there in the Au Shau Valley where many friends of mine died and some never got over that trauma. I was lucky. I did. I think about the number of warriors that were exposed to Agent Orange in that 'Valley of Hell' and now are e.g awaiting a heart transplant because of expose to Agent Orange. We were sent there to kill people because of their politics and we are still doing that today, just with a better trained and weaponized military that can kill at will.

I just want to note that this guy didn't commit his alleged crimes at home, he was allegedly slaughtering civilians while in Afghanistan. And the stuff that he was accused of is pretty horrific stuff.

There must be a difference between "warrior mentality" and "let's shoot up those unarmed people and play with their corpses."

I just leave that here:
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/some things never change

War. War never changes.

Soldiers shouldn't kill people. That would be wrong and bad.

itazurakko: Weaver95: that's like saying someone was being furiously calm and happily depressed.

That's quite the colorless green idea...

I Chomskied what you did there.

billii: Oh I see plenty wrong with the man's actions. The problem is that we train soldiers to kill and expect them to turn off their warrior mentality when they come home War sucks, death sucks and peoples inhumanity towards mankind sucks. I know. I was there in the Au Shau Valley where many friends of mine died and some never got over that trauma. I was lucky. I did. I think about the number of warriors that were exposed to Agent Orange in that 'Valley of Hell' and now are e.g awaiting a heart transplant because of expose to Agent Orange. We were sent there to kill people because of their politics and we are still doing that today, just with a better trained and weaponized military that can kill at will.

Calmer than you are.

I think we have to be cognizant of the mental state these guys get themselves into, not just at the time the crime was committed, but the entire experience of being at war for months at a time, stressed out of their minds--

a man who gunned down dogs without provocation,

KILL HIM WITH FIRE.

At least he didn't shoot a horse and crawl into its eviscerated carcass.


/the boy really needs to be locked up.
//I don't want him defending me. Or even living within 500 miles of me.

See, this is why we can't have nice things.

I think part of the problem is encouraging the nomenclature "warrior". You're a soldier, a sailor, an airman, a marine... With sincerest gratitude for your service, consider yourselves above just "killing the enemy and breaking things"

I piloted a helicopter and flew two separate jets. I captured two bases single handedly. That's right battlefield Vietnam for pc. War was hell.

bdub77: Do you have ANY idea how HARD it is to thread the needle on these biatches?

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First thing I thought of.

/say goodnight asshole

You know Junior, some of the things we've done, man... I don't feel like we've done something wrong. Sometimes, man... I get this bad feeling. I told the padre the truth man, I like it here. Get to do what you want, nobody farks with you. The only worry you got is dying. And if that happens you won't know about it anyway. So what the fark man?

bdub77: Do you have ANY idea how HARD it is to thread the needle on these biatches?

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ty lol

When you train men to kill, don't act surprised and disgusted when some of them start to like it.

El Freak: But I was told American soldiers are all the most selfless, virtous, most godlike individuals to ever walk the Earth! Now I don't know WHAT to believe!

Somebody's butt hurt over the praise thrown towards members of the military.

My best work yet...

SilentStrider: Weaver95: Marcus Aurelius: I never heard of a hash fueled beatdown that didn't involve a bag of Doritos.

I'm still trying to put 'hash fueled' and 'beat down' in the same sentence and not get a brain melt. that's like saying someone was being furiously calm and happily depressed.

maybe the hash was laced with something that might cause someone to go into a rage, like pcp.

So if I get drunk on a bunch of Pepsi mixed with rum and then kick someone's ass, it was a Pepsi fueled beat-down?

It is pretty farking absurd to say that someone put a "hash-fueled beatdown" on someone....period.

3 G's: It is pretty farking absurd to say that someone put a "hash-fueled beatdown" on someone....period.

It is absurd if one has the faintest idea of the effects of marijuana. But instead many people think that all illicit drugs make one more physically dangerous towards others. Or else why would they be illegal?

In short, they mistakenly think US drug policy has a sliver of rationality behind it.

I remember near the beginning of my first deployment to Iraq my then-team leader asked me if I wanted to kill. I told him I would kill someone if I had to, but I hoped it wouldn't come to that. He made me do push ups. The thing is, the popular perception of military life tends to attract a certain element, especially in combat arms. They get to their units and go to war and gradually realize that the army is more about boredom than killing, that and making yourself a target, and they feel cheated. If they're in leadership positions or if their leaders are weak, they make opportunities for themselves, or they try to, and we end up with a situation like this. Usually it's other soldiers who pay for it. Later in my first deployment my company was assigned to patrol the town of Abu Ghraib, right around the time the prison scandal broke. At one point my platoon was IEDd 8 times in 2 weeks. During my second deployment my brigade took over the Yusufiyah area a few months after the Mahmudiyah killings. It still hadn't gotten out in America, the perpetrators were still walking free, but the locals knew.They hated us with a kind of hatred I have never seen before or since. What does that kind of hatred lead to? Four of our guys, men who had done nothing wrong themselves, were abducted and killed. Would this have happened if a few animals had not murdered an Iraqi family for kicks? I personally doubt it.
TL; DR: lock them up and throw away the key as an example to any other sociopaths in the ranks

Hang him by the neck until dead.