How about examining the necessity of each order, regardless of who issued it?

/or skinnydip in the Partisan river

At this point we should just dissolve congress and see what happens. Obama seems like a hood enough guy. He got Bin Laden

ourbigdumbmouth: Obama seems like a hood enough guy.

He doesn't live in the hood anymore.

Sin_City_Superhero: ourbigdumbmouth: Obama seems like a hood enough guy.

He doesn't live in the hood anymore.

Dang my touch screen!!!!

And Bush had 6 years of a GOP congress, too. This means he was adding laws on top of laws when the laws he wanted lawed were lawing.

ourbigdumbmouth: Sin_City_Superhero: ourbigdumbmouth: Obama seems like a hood enough guy.

He doesn't live in the hood anymore.

Dang my touch screen!!!!

I don't know, Obama makes fools get got. That's pretty street if you ask me.

It's also a perfectly valid and very traditional means of circumventing congress.

Asa Phelps: It's also a perfectly valid and very traditional means of circumventing congress.

That.

ourbigdumbmouth: At this point we should just dissolve congress and see what happens. Obama seems like a hood enough guy. He got Bin Laden

Reminds me of: "The point being, it is not the amount of melon in their skin that makes them a gang member"

ManRay: So is it wrong or not? If Obama stops before he gets to Bush's number will he be OK?

It is the Fox "News" hypocrisy that is the point here.

"They overstep the president's constitutional boundaries. Obama can rhetorically dress this up however he likes, but his actions are not predicated on the consent of the governed, they are fueled by his desire to maintain and expand power. This is not the rule of law, but the rule of man," ALG President Bill Wilson said in a statement.

If I ever become president of the united states my first executive order will be to authorize former president Obama to go punch this guy in the nose.

My second would be to make cannabis (in all its forms) Schedule IV.

And my third executive order would be to fire anyone who argues with me about my first two executive orders.

Hobodeluxe: considering the amount of filibustering the GOP have done and the blocking of not only bills passing but appointments to the bench and to federal agencies I'm surprised he hasn't done a lot more of it.

indeed.

Weaver95: "They overstep the president's constitutional boundaries. Obama can rhetorically dress this up however he likes, but his actions are not predicated on the consent of the governed, they are fueled by his desire to maintain and expand power. This is not the rule of law, but the rule of man," ALG President Bill Wilson said in a statement.

If I ever become president of the united states my first executive order will be to authorize former president Obama to go punch this guy in the nose.

My second would be to make cannabis (in all its forms) Schedule IV.

And my third executive order would be to fire anyone who argues with me about my first two executive orders.

Can the fourth be more pizza?

I don't have enough pizza.

Weaver95 for President!

ksdanj: Weaver95 for President!

I'd vote for him if he runs on that platform.

Cake Hunter: Weaver95: "They overstep the president's constitutional boundaries. Obama can rhetorically dress this up however he likes, but his actions are not predicated on the consent of the governed, they are fueled by his desire to maintain and expand power. This is not the rule of law, but the rule of man," ALG President Bill Wilson said in a statement.

If I ever become president of the united states my first executive order will be to authorize former president Obama to go punch this guy in the nose.

My second would be to make cannabis (in all its forms) Schedule IV.

And my third executive order would be to fire anyone who argues with me about my first two executive orders.

Can the fourth be more pizza?

I don't have enough pizza.

So vote for Cain.

revrendjim: So vote for Cain.

I keep wanting to make a 'mark of Cain' joke, but can't quite seem to pull it off...

That should make the Republicans happy. They nattered on about the Unitary Power of the President for years.

oldebayer: Weaver95: revrendjim: So vote for Cain.

I keep wanting to make a 'mark of Cain' joke, but can't quite seem to pull it off

You just aren't Able?

I hate you.

Nadie_AZ: And Bush had 6 years of a GOP congress, too. This means he was adding laws on top of laws when the laws he wanted lawed were lawing.

Yo, dawg. We heard you like laws so we put some laws in your laws so you can law while you law.

Hobodeluxe: considering the amount of filibustering the GOP have done and the blocking of not only bills passing but appointments to the bench and to federal agencies I'm surprised he hasn't done a lot more of it.

Democrats filibustered Bush. Does that make it right? Bush did it too makes it okay?

Democrat hypocrsy is stinking up the country.

EnviroDude: Democrats filibustered Bush. Does that make it right? Bush did it too makes it okay?

Democrat hypocrsy is stinking up the country.

so what would happen if we went and looked up how many fillibusters the Democrats used vs how often the Republicans use the same tactic...?

would you care to go look or should I try and find out?

If congress would do their damn job the president wouldn't need to do this

Weaver95: EnviroDude: Democrats filibustered Bush. Does that make it right? Bush did it too makes it okay?

Democrat hypocrsy is stinking up the country.

so what would happen if we went and looked up how many fillibusters the Democrats used vs how often the Republicans use the same tactic...?

would you care to go look or should I try and find out?

Does it matter to keep score? Do you fail to grasp that our country is on the precipice of economic failure? One group thinks the best way to save it is to spend money like it is going out of style and leave the bill for your grandchildren to pay. The other group thinks it is time to draw a line in the sand and say enough is enough.

And still another group is saying quit welfare for the rich.

/how much more before you see the light?

//during obma's first two years, he had a filibuster proof majority in the Senate.

What good did it do?

Somebody needs to get shiat done.

EnviroDude: Do you fail to grasp that our country is on the precipice of economic failure?

what I can't figure out is why the GOP seems hell bent on destroying our economy.

What did we tell you idiots over and over again? If you set the precedent, future Presidents will use it. Yes, even Democrats.

Shostie: Yo, dawg. We heard you like laws so we put some laws in your laws so you can law while you law.

My entire adult life in paying attention to politics has consisted of:

1. The president using executive orders and recess appointments to sidestep Congress, and the opposing party screaming about.

2. The minority party using the filibuster to jam up the Senate and the majority party screaming about it.

3. The president trying to pack the Supreme Court with partisan judges and the opposing party trying to Bork all candidates.

On and on it goes.

Mentat: What did we tell you idiots over and over again? If you set the precedent, future Presidents will use it. Yes, even Democrats.

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63% of Poor Households have private parts.

Ed Finnerty: Party Boy: [i.imgur.com image 500x370]

63% of Poor Households have private parts.

The rest listen to Imus.

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63% of Poor Households have private parts.

I'm against their existence, but their use is well documented and well within proven Presidential powers. Plus the GOP refuses to actually let Congress work and reach compromises, so someone ought to be doing their job. If that means it has to be the President, so be it.

GAT_00: I'm against their existence, but their use is well documented and well within proven Presidential powers. Plus the GOP refuses to actually let Congress work and reach compromises, so someone ought to be doing their job. If that means it has to be the President, so be it.

weren't you pretty hard core against the use of executive orders by GWB? Or am I thinking of someone else...?

Weaver95: GAT_00: I'm against their existence, but their use is well documented and well within proven Presidential powers. Plus the GOP refuses to actually let Congress work and reach compromises, so someone ought to be doing their job. If that means it has to be the President, so be it.

weren't you pretty hard core against the use of executive orders by GWB? Or am I thinking of someone else...?

As I said, I'm against their very existence. But if they are going to exist, and that seems to be a fight I've lost and have no chance of winning, I'd rather they actually do some good.

But no, I don't think the President should have that power at all, not when it concerns laws. Executive orders should be extremely limited and have no legislative power at all.

GAT_00: Executive orders should be extremely limited and have no legislative power at all.

that's a nice idea...damn shame its not going to work out that way though.

Weaver95: GAT_00: Executive orders should be extremely limited and have no legislative power at all.

that's a nice idea...damn shame its not going to work out that way though.

Yep. So might as well have them create the laws that Congress won't.

GAT_00: Weaver95: GAT_00: Executive orders should be extremely limited and have no legislative power at all.

that's a nice idea...damn shame its not going to work out that way though.

Yep. So might as well have them create the laws that Congress won't.

ya know, when you think about it - Obama using an EO to go around Congress is a no win situation for the GOP. they can't go after Obama for using an EO without knowing that whatever they say will come back to haunt them the next time they cheer a Republican president for abusing an EO.

of course it's not an ideal solution by any means...but it does make for some interesting language from the GOP shills who try to slam Obama for doing something they hate without saying something that will be used against them later on down the road.

Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: GAT_00: Executive orders should be extremely limited and have no legislative power at all.

that's a nice idea...damn shame its not going to work out that way though.

Yep. So might as well have them create the laws that Congress won't.

ya know, when you think about it - Obama using an EO to go around Congress is a no win situation for the GOP. they can't go after Obama for using an EO without knowing that whatever they say will come back to haunt them the next time they cheer a Republican president for abusing an EO.

of course it's not an ideal solution by any means...but it does make for some interesting language from the GOP shills who try to slam Obama for doing something they hate without saying something that will be used against them later on down the road.

Like they give a flying fark about later consequences and not being hypocrites.

GAT_00: Like they give a flying fark about later consequences and not being hypocrites.

some of them do. Not because they think it's wrong or anything, but because they're smart enough to realize that the voters are becoming smarter about research.