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2011-10-30 07:57:28 PM  
As Mike Vigil, retired Drug Enforcement Agency international chief, told the Chronicle: "By publishing the names, they identify them to rivals, and trust me, they will go after them."



the only way this could be more awesome would be for it to end up on youtube...
 
2011-10-30 07:57:36 PM  
Uh, good luck with that.
 
2011-10-30 08:08:09 PM  
That's pointless. Demand is never really going to change; all f*cking with one supplier (or one group of suppliers) does is temporarily jack up the price of drugs until another one fills the void. Dammit, you guys.

Work on changing the ~system~... work on having recreational drugs legalized... work on exposing all the falsehoods about marijuana use, and the history behind the smear campaign.

/anonymous just doesn't get it sometimes
//but their hearts are usually in the right place
/*sigh* it's hard to dislike them
 
2011-10-30 08:40:38 PM  
This could get messy.
 
2011-10-30 09:04:28 PM  

gameshowhost: That's pointless. Demand is never really going to change; all f*cking with one supplier (or one group of suppliers) does is temporarily jack up the price of drugs until another one fills the void. Dammit, you guys.

Work on changing the ~system~... work on having recreational drugs legalized... work on exposing all the falsehoods about marijuana use, and the history behind the smear campaign.

/anonymous just doesn't get it sometimes
//but their hearts are usually in the right place
/*sigh* it's hard to dislike them


Ummmm. . . In this case, I don't think they're trying to change the system. I think they are trying to save the life of one specific person. So . . . I think your post is invalid or something like that.
 
2011-10-30 09:50:10 PM  
I wonder if the cartels really care. That and if the zetas took their friend, I have a feeling he begged for death the first day.
 
2011-10-30 11:10:45 PM  
Legalizing cocaine will stop crackheads.
 
2011-10-30 11:12:14 PM  
I watched the video and can't find the (expletive) and it doesn't seem like it was edited out.
 
2011-10-30 11:12:32 PM  
Here's hoping.
 
2011-10-30 11:12:50 PM  

basemetal: I wonder if the cartels really care. That and if the zetas took their friend, I have a feeling he begged for death the first day.


No doubt.

But if Anonymous Veracruz really has the names and addresses of the Zetas, the war they start could rival the Crimean War for awesome pointlessness and carnage.
 
2011-10-30 11:13:21 PM  
Someone's life is going to end for this. Z's will cause some problems.
 
2011-10-30 11:13:23 PM  
 
2011-10-30 11:14:07 PM  

gameshowhost: That's pointless. Demand is never really going to change; all f*cking with one supplier (or one group of suppliers) does is temporarily jack up the price of drugs until another one fills the void. Dammit, you guys.

Work on changing the ~system~... work on having recreational drugs legalized... work on exposing all the falsehoods about marijuana use, and the history behind the smear campaign.

/anonymous just doesn't get it sometimes
//but their hearts are usually in the right place
/*sigh* it's hard to dislike them


All that typing and you couldn't be bothered to read the god damn article, eh.
 
2011-10-30 11:14:10 PM  

theflatline: Legalizing cocaine will stop crackheads.


Stop them from what?
As far as I can see, crackheads make the voluntary choice to use crack on their own bodies.
If they get addicted, they can choose to seek help or have an intervention and get sent to rehab.
If they commit a crime that actually has a victim, they can be arrested for that.
But there's nothing to "stop" crackheads or drug users from doing unless you're batshiat authoritarian and puritan.
I believe cocaine should be legalized so people can make the choice of whether or not they want to use it on their own bodies.
 
2011-10-30 11:14:47 PM  
Looks like the Zetas dun goofed.
Consequences will never be the same.
Hope they like Pizza.
 
2011-10-30 11:15:22 PM  
Anonymous is a front for the CIA!! first they take down wiki leaks, Then they take down a kiddy porn site run by the russian mob. Now they are taking out the Zetas.

CIA is behind it all
 
2011-10-30 11:15:43 PM  

skinink: Didn't the cartels recently kill a couple of supposed bloggers that write about cartels, and just hung the bodies from a bridge as a warning to other bloggers ?


Does the day end in y?
 
2011-10-30 11:16:47 PM  

m2313: theflatline: Legalizing cocaine will stop crackheads.

Stop them from what?
As far as I can see, crackheads make the voluntary choice to use crack on their own bodies.
If they get addicted, they can choose to seek help or have an intervention and get sent to rehab.
If they commit a crime that actually has a victim, they can be arrested for that.
But there's nothing to "stop" crackheads or drug users from doing unless you're batshiat authoritarian and puritan.
I believe cocaine should be legalized so people can make the choice of whether or not they want to use it on their own bodies.


And you should perhaps put the pipe down because it is hindered your ability to see sarcasm.
 
2011-10-30 11:17:37 PM  

Obscene_CNN: CIA is behind it all


Doubt it.
Given the CIA's history of terrorism and drug trading they're probably propping up the Zetas.
 
2011-10-30 11:17:39 PM  
FTFA: Anonymous was reported to have begun a coordinated attack against a child pornography forum called Lolita City.

Only if "coordinated attack" means "extensive use".
 
2011-10-30 11:24:44 PM  
Anon should make the same decision any good military officer would in a time of war and sacrafice a soldier for the greater good. Publish the identities. Even for a drug cartel, the Zetas are monsters and I don't think they are willing to negotiate with anyone (they would rather just take a chainsaw to their head). I think Nov 5 will come and go with no response from the Zetas (unless they hang this kid from an underpass) and we will see if /b/ can make good on their threat.
 
2011-10-30 11:25:17 PM  
¡Buena suerte! Estoy detrás de siete Boxxies.
 
2011-10-30 11:28:49 PM  

Gyrfalcon: basemetal: I wonder if the cartels really care. That and if the zetas took their friend, I have a feeling he begged for death the first day.

No doubt.

But if Anonymous Veracruz really has the names and addresses of the Zetas, the war they start could rival the Crimean War for awesome pointlessness and carnage.


Well, yeah, but the LULZ will be epic.
 
2011-10-30 11:29:27 PM  
What anonymous does not seem to realize is that the cartels have the money to pay for better equipment, better hackers, and do not care about cracking skulls to protect their business or even prove a point.

I imagine we will see a video of the kidnappee being flayed alive while they pour keresone into his wunds and give him red ant enemas.
 
2011-10-30 11:29:37 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Anon should make the same decision any good military officer would in a time of war and sacrafice a soldier for the greater good. Publish the identities.


Why not try to get their guy back first, and then publish the info even if they do deliver? You know, for the lulz.
 
2011-10-30 11:30:47 PM  

Sarien: FTFA: Anonymous was reported to have begun a coordinated attack against a child pornography forum called Lolita City.

Only if "coordinated attack" means "extensive use".


careful. they have the ability to order a pizza and have it delivered it to your house.
 
2011-10-30 11:30:51 PM  
Thank you, recreational drug users, for creating rich, violent, narcoterrorismos that have led to failed states like Mexico and Columbia.

The war on drugs has been a failure, but you are part of the problem. Please DIFA.
 
2011-10-30 11:30:53 PM  

theflatline: Legalizing cocaine will stop crackheads.


You do know that it takes 10 minutes in the kitchen to turn coke into crack, right?

/do NOT try this at home
 
2011-10-30 11:31:06 PM  
Remember, in death, they have names.

/His name was Robert Paulson.
 
2011-10-30 11:32:34 PM  
Why doesn't some one try and contact Nancy Lieder for a comment since she is the spokesperson for the Zetas

http://www.zetatalk.com/nancybio.htm
 
2011-10-30 11:33:05 PM  
Wasn't anonymous going to ruin some guys life a few weeks ago? I can't remember. What ever happened to him?
 
2011-10-30 11:34:03 PM  
They're also going after the Oakland police, Fox News, Bill O'Reiley and Glen Beck.
 
2011-10-30 11:35:19 PM  

StanTheMan: Thank you, recreational drug users, for creating rich, violent, narcoterrorismos that have led to failed states like Mexico and Columbia.

The war on drugs has been a failure, but you are part of the problem. Please DIFA.


This.

If someone doesn't want to think it's all connected, fine. But it is. Zetas, Juarez, Sinaloa et al are ruthless and create anarchy. They thrive on it. And usually the people doing the dirty work don't know exactly for whom they are doing it. So, thanks for the demand, assholes.
 
2011-10-30 11:35:48 PM  
ano.lolcathost.org
 
2011-10-30 11:35:55 PM  
About 10 years ago I was planning on taking my honeymoon in Mexico. We were seriously considering the area around the old Mayan pyramids and the lovely beaches down in that part of Mexico. The two of us collected guidebooks, looked up travel sites, and basically had everything arranged to fly down to the Caribbean and sail from there to the Yucatan. But at the last minute we decided against it.

It wasn't so much the violence that was simmering so much as the fact that her parents paid for two weeks for us in Maui. That was a great two weeks.
 
2011-10-30 11:37:09 PM  

StanTheMan: Thank you, recreational drug users prohibitionists, for creating rich, violent, narcoterrorismos that have led to failed states like Mexico and Columbia.

The war on drugs has been a failure, but you are part of the problem. Please DIFA.


FTFY, legalize the drugs and nobody is gonna want to buy from the criminals anymore. When you want alcohol, do you find a guy with a bathtub full of gin or go to a mafia run speakeasy, or do you just go to Walgreens and buy a 30 pack of beer?
 
2011-10-30 11:38:19 PM  
30.media.tumblr.com

And if anything happens to him, you (expletive) will always remember this upcoming November 5th
 
2011-10-30 11:39:09 PM  

gameshowhost: /*sigh* it's hard to dislike them


Its easy to dislike them, mainly because they act like anarchists and thats easy to dislike.

What is ironic is that during anarchy computer nerds are pushed down the importance ladder or wind up someones little biatch.
 
2011-10-30 11:40:02 PM  
Mexico has gotten pretty bad because my last job, in Colombia, we had office in Mexico City, and none us wanted to go. "Say fivestar hotel, hookers, expense account, no thanks, I will just stay in Bogota"
 
2011-10-30 11:42:53 PM  
Illegal immigrants are God's punishment for the USA's drug habit.
 
2011-10-30 11:43:41 PM  

StanTheMan: Thank you, recreational drug users, for creating rich, violent, narcoterrorismos that have led to failed states like Mexico and Columbia.

The war on drugs has been a failure, but you are part of the problem. Please DIFA.


Actually recreational drug users didnt, its all the filthy addicts have caused the problems.

Besides Im spoiled now and when I want to smoke I will just fly back to amsterdam.
 
2011-10-30 11:43:55 PM  
And publishing the names of people who were threatened with death into cooperating with one cartel so they will be killed with actual death by another, competing cartel in an attempt to secure the release of a hostage who is either already dead or is currently having the GRWAAAARAAGHHH tortured out of him will accomplish what, exactly?
 
2011-10-30 11:44:10 PM  

theflatline: m2313: theflatline: Legalizing cocaine will stop crackheads.

Stop them from what?
As far as I can see, crackheads make the voluntary choice to use crack on their own bodies.
If they get addicted, they can choose to seek help or have an intervention and get sent to rehab.
If they commit a crime that actually has a victim, they can be arrested for that.
But there's nothing to "stop" crackheads or drug users from doing unless you're batshiat authoritarian and puritan.
I believe cocaine should be legalized so people can make the choice of whether or not they want to use it on their own bodies.

And you should perhaps put the pipe down because it is hindered your ability to see sarcasm.


For both of you, really:
5 Years After: Portugal's Drug Decriminalization Policy Shows Positive Results (new window)

/not sure if this is for or against your beliefs, flatline, but it's still cool
 
2011-10-30 11:44:27 PM  

steamingpile: Besides Im spoiled now and when I want to smoke I will just fly back to amsterdam.


No you're not

unless you're a Dutch citizen
 
2011-10-30 11:44:52 PM  

Flakeloaf: And publishing the names of people who were threatened with death into cooperating with one cartel so they will be killed with actual death by another, competing cartel in an attempt to secure the release of a hostage who is either already dead or is currently having the GRWAAAARAAGHHH tortured out of him will accomplish what, exactly?


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-10-30 11:46:12 PM  

theflatline: Mexico has gotten pretty bad because my last job, in Colombia, we had office in Mexico City, and none us wanted to go. "Say fivestar hotel, hookers, expense account, no thanks, I will just stay in Bogota"


it's a lot safer than columbia to this day, at least as far as murder rate goes. less than half the murder rate of columbia. mexico is actually a lot safer than most latin american countries, it's just that it has fallen so far and so fast it looks so bad.
 
2011-10-30 11:46:14 PM  

Skid Roe v. Wade Boggs: StanTheMan: Thank you, recreational drug users, for creating rich, violent, narcoterrorismos that have led to failed states like Mexico and Columbia.

The war on drugs has been a failure, but you are part of the problem. Please DIFA.

This.

If someone doesn't want to think it's all connected, fine. But it is. Zetas, Juarez, Sinaloa et al are ruthless and create anarchy. They thrive on it. And usually the people doing the dirty work don't know exactly for whom they are doing it. So, thanks for the demand, assholes.


I don't think the guy I buy it from grows it in Mexico. I'm pretty sure it's in his basement.
 
2011-10-30 11:46:26 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Anon should make the same decision any good military officer would in a time of war and sacrafice a soldier for the greater good. Publish the identities. Even for a drug cartel, the Zetas are monsters and I don't think they are willing to negotiate with anyone (they would rather just take a chainsaw to their head). I think Nov 5 will come and go with no response from the Zetas (unless they hang this kid from an underpass) and we will see if /b/ can make good on their threat.


4.bp.blogspot.com

It's not /b/

///no it's nottt
 
2011-10-30 11:47:09 PM  

Flakeloaf: And publishing the names of people who were threatened with death into cooperating with one cartel so they will be killed with actual death by another, competing cartel in an attempt to secure the release of a hostage who is either already dead or is currently having the GRWAAAARAAGHHH tortured out of him will accomplish what, exactly?


That's inconsequential. This is why its done:

cache.ohinternet.com
 
2011-10-30 11:47:14 PM  

Mentalpatient87: StanTheMan: Thank you, recreational drug users prohibitionists, for creating rich, violent, narcoterrorismos that have led to failed states like Mexico and Columbia.

The war on drugs has been a failure, but you are part of the problem. Please DIFA.

FTFY, legalize the drugs and nobody is gonna want to buy from the criminals anymore. When you want alcohol, do you find a guy with a bathtub full of gin or go to a mafia run speakeasy, or do you just go to Walgreens and buy a 30 pack of beer?


Prohibitionists cause the violence and users fund the violence.
 
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