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FriarReb98

2011-10-30 10:20:39 AM

So you didn't need to get this wonderful phone to get their glorified talking Google app?

\seriously, how hard is it to self-text notes and use your phone's internet to find things around you?

t3knomanser

2011-10-30 01:04:59 PM

FriarReb98: \seriously, how hard is it to self-text notes and use your phone's internet to find things around you?

Well, you have to take your phone out of your pocket, for starters. And why on earth would you "self-text" notes. That seems like the absolute worst way to take notes on a phone.

//SimpleNote FTW.

Hiro Nakamura

2011-10-30 01:08:49 PM

Before this devolves into the typical fanboi/hater flamewar.

No, you don't need Siri. Yes, a combination of Google and use of the calendar will do 90% of the things you want Siri to do, except make a few geeky in-jokes. No, voice recognition technology is not new.

But Goddamn it, you have to respect Apple for the marketing genius of taking all of those things, rolling them into one usable piece of software that doesn't regularly glitch out, misunderstand you, or make you speak like you're talking to a dimwitted 9 year old who barely speaks English, and make you think that it's God's gift to technology.

Yankees Team Gynecologist

2011-10-30 01:13:53 PM

t3knomanser: Well, you have to take your phone out of your pocket, for starters.

With Siri you don't? Serious question.

On Siri screenshots, for voice commands it shows confirmation of what you just asked it to do, which is nice. But would you trust it sight unseen?

When you factor in software limitations plus variations in your own voice plus background noise, I don't trust any voice command system to send a text message or set an important alarm without me reviewing it first.

Yankees Team Gynecologist

2011-10-30 01:16:53 PM

By the way, where are all the Apple fanboys who biatched about Microsoft gratuitously disabling Windows features so they could charge more for different versions? How is pulling the App for non-4S devices any different?

IStateTheObvious

2011-10-30 01:21:31 PM

Don't worry. Apple will prevent these older devices from authenticating properly with their servers and all will be right with the world once again.

Just be a good little consumer and buy the latest and greatest capitalist toy. Then you can enjoy true freedom and happiness. At least until the next iGadget comes along.

solokumba

2011-10-30 01:25:51 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: How is pulling the App for non-4S devices any different?

Because we fanboys know what beta software is and why a company would only like to run it on their latest hardware. Unlike MS and their constant hardware/software fiascos.

LikeTheSearchEngine

2011-10-30 01:37:57 PM

As an owner of a 4s: good. This was total bullshiat.

LikeTheSearchEngine

2011-10-30 01:40:35 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: t3knomanser: Well, you have to take your phone out of your pocket, for starters.

With Siri you don't? Serious question.

On Siri screenshots, for voice commands it shows confirmation of what you just asked it to do, which is nice. But would you trust it sight unseen?

When you factor in software limitations plus variations in your own voice plus background noise, I don't trust any voice command system to send a text message or set an important alarm without me reviewing it first.

Well... it reads it back to you.

bulldg4life

2011-10-30 01:43:46 PM

Good.

Now I'll just have to wait a couple weeks until they iron out the details and make it available to the masses.

This looks like a good reason to finally jailbreak the thing.

Banacek

2011-10-30 01:49:53 PM

bulldg4life: Good.

Now I'll just have to wait a couple weeks until they iron out the details and make it available to the masses.

This looks like a good reason to finally jailbreak the thing.

PDANet with it's "Hide Tether" option is a good reason to jailbreak the iPhone :)

Yankees Team Gynecologist

2011-10-30 01:59:54 PM

solokumba: Because we fanboys ~~know what beta software is and why a company would only like to run it on their latest hardware. Unlike MS and their constant hardware/software fiascos.~~got nuthin'.

Never mind that it works great on iPhone 4, and I'm sure on the iPad 1&2 as well.

Does it hurt to flail like that?

Yankees Team Gynecologist

2011-10-30 02:03:44 PM

LikeTheSearchEngine: Well... it reads it back to you.

Not entire text messages, in the demos I've seen. Is there a setting for that you can enable?

Hiro Nakamura

2011-10-30 02:12:28 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: LikeTheSearchEngine: Well... it reads it back to you.

Not entire text messages, in the demos I've seen. Is there a setting for that you can enable?

"Siri, please text my wife that I'm picking up a gallon of milk at the corner store."

"OK, 'I am licking up a gallon of ilk withe the older whore.' Your text has been sent."

solokumba

2011-10-30 02:21:37 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Does it hurt to flail like that?

Spell much idiot boy?

You do know that Siri isn't actually on the phone like a regular app. The phone is just the conduit to the server. The software is in beta On The Server. Why would a company open up a beta program to everyone in the first place. Name one company that does that?
When one buys a 4S they are opting in on the beta. Understand now idiot boy?

Mike_LowELL

2011-10-30 02:24:41 PM

solokumba: When one buys a 4S they are opting in on the beta. Understand now idiot boy?

Step 1: Release full software to the public as an incentive to purchase a product.
Step 2: Call it a "beta" until it's a passable product that's actually worth anyone's time.
Step 3: Uh, alright.

LikeTheSearchEngine

2011-10-30 03:01:24 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: LikeTheSearchEngine: Well... it reads it back to you.

Not entire text messages, in the demos I've seen. Is there a setting for that you can enable?

I don't understand. Straight out of the box:

I get a text.
"Read text"
"random text"
"reply"
"what would you like to say?"
"random text also"
"you can review or send"
"review"
"anthem sex wall pole"
"edit"
"RANDOM TEXT ALSO"
"you can review or send"
"review"
"random text also"
"send"

Normally, though, its good. its only when you mash words together, that it gets confused.

For instance, "4S" = "forest" if you don't enunciate.

BullBearMS

2011-10-30 03:06:31 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: t3knomanser: Well, you have to take your phone out of your pocket, for starters.

With Siri you don't? Serious question.

On Siri screenshots, for voice commands it shows confirmation of what you just asked it to do, which is nice. But would you trust it sight unseen?

Apple's original Siri demonstration video showed it being used by a blind user to send a text message.

She dictated a message. Siri read it back to her and then asked her should it be sent or canceled.

StingerJ

2011-10-30 03:06:50 PM

As a happy owner of a 3GS, I couldn't care less that it doesn't have Siri on it. What happened to simply using a phone for the core functions of texting and tweeting and checking my email?

FiatJustitia

2011-10-30 03:20:04 PM

solokumba: Yankees Team Gynecologist: Does it hurt to flail like that?

Spell much idiot boy?

You do know that Siri isn't actually on the phone like a regular app. The phone is just the conduit to the server. The software is in beta On The Server. Why would a company open up a beta program to everyone in the first place. Name one company that does that?
When one buys a 4S they are opting in on the beta. Understand now idiot boy?

Wow, angry much?

Hiro Nakamura: Yankees Team Gynecologist: LikeTheSearchEngine: Well... it reads it back to you.

Not entire text messages, in the demos I've seen. Is there a setting for that you can enable?

"Siri, please text my wife that I'm picking up a gallon of milk at the corner store."

"OK, 'I am licking up a gallon of ilk withe the older whore.' Your text has been sent."

I just laughed out loud in the library, thanks, jerk.

Mentalpatient87

2011-10-30 03:32:24 PM

GreenAdder

2011-10-30 03:48:21 PM

So how long until Apple sues Bonzi Buddy for "preemptively ripping us off?"

MrEricSir

2011-10-30 04:20:37 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: By the way, where are all the Apple fanboys who biatched about Microsoft gratuitously disabling Windows features so they could charge more for different versions? How is pulling the App for non-4S devices any different?

The article didn't really answer whether or not Siri could run fast enough on an iPhone 4; if you have heavy background processing, I bet it would glitch out on the voice recognition.

The iPhone 4S has a dual core processor, so that should alleviate the problem.

itazurakko

2011-10-30 04:26:37 PM

solokumba: Because we fanboys know what beta software is and why a company would only like to run it on their latest hardware. Unlike MS and their constant hardware/software fiascos.

Also with Apple in particular, they got some hate from people who were too quick to download iOS 4 to older phones that weren't really able to handle it well. The phones upgraded but slowed down spectacularly (or in some cases just quit working) and people were scrambling to figure out how to roll back, etc.

Surely this time they're just trying to be more conservative.

ColonelSanders33

2011-10-30 04:38:04 PM

McRumors? Is that the Irish version of MacRumors?

MusicMakeMyHeadPound

2011-10-30 05:02:07 PM

solokumba: Yankees Team Gynecologist: How is pulling the App for non-4S devices any different?

Because we fanboys know what beta software is and why a company would only like to run it on their latest hardware. Unlike MS and their constant hardware/software fiascos.

Ouch. Solokumba 1, YTG 0.

/absolutely baffled as to why multilingual support is only available to home consumers under Win 7 Ultimate

Yankees Team Gynecologist

2011-10-30 05:13:40 PM

solokumba: Spell much idiot boy?

You do know that Siri isn't actually on the phone like a regular app. The phone is just the conduit to the server. The software is in beta On The Server. Why would a company open up a beta program to everyone in the first place. Name one company that does that?
When one buys a 4S they are opting in on the beta. Understand now idiot boy?

i44.tinypic.com

on so many levels.

Siri was in Apple's App store for multiple devices until the 4S came out.

Siri being mostly server-side is all the more reason it should be available on all devices.

Calling the existing 4S implementation a "beta" isn't exactly a good defense of the product either.

I understand perfectly--that's some epic flail you're doing right there.

Yankees Team Gynecologist

2011-10-30 05:29:50 PM

LikeTheSearchEngine: I don't understand. Straight out of the box:

BullBearMS: Apple's original Siri demonstration video showed it being used by a blind user to send a text message.

She dictated a message. Siri read it back to her and then asked her should it be sent or canceled.

OK...now I can see that one way or another you can get it to read what you wrote back to you.

Still, as LikeTheSearchEngine described, this doesn't help with words or phrases that sound similar, so I still wouldn't trust the message to go out sight unseen. You still have to see the message to experience it exactly how the recipient will, unless you know they're just going to use Siri to read the message too. Like I originally said though, that's not a criticism of Siri specifically, just voice dictation in general.

sleeper2995

2011-10-30 06:05:33 PM

would be better and creepier if it was Steve Job's voice

sleeper2995

2011-10-30 06:08:18 PM

Not sure if siri

www.myfacewhen.net

wildcardjack

2011-10-30 06:19:26 PM

Siri is a $400 app with a free phone.

TheSneakerWhore

2011-10-31 11:26:20 AM

Hiro Nakamura:
But Goddamn it, you have to respect Apple for the marketing genius of taking all of those things, rolling them into one usable piece of software that doesn't regularly glitch out, misunderstand you, or make you speak like you're talking to a dimwitted 9 year old who barely speaks English, and make you think that it's God's gift to technology.

WAT? Methinks you only own phones from 10 years ago. Marketing genius? Not even close. Just like the "status bar notifications" they are behind the curve, and try and make up for it with smoke and mirrors, as usual.

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