Subby only said rape once. He must not like rape

I guess even commanders can get tired of the same old seamen.

+1 subby

/that's terrible
//still loled

42 months for two counts of rape? If he was a civilian it would have been 42 years.

Penis goes where??

Skipper grew up too fast.

He really should have gotten more than 42 months. He likely ruined the lives of two others, and possibly more. As a leader, he should actually be held to a higher standard.

Rape-rape? Or corrective rape?

3 1/2 years for farking up the lives of two women who serve to defend freedom? I can only hope he gets raped daily, twice.

Wolf Cola: 42 months for two counts of rape? If he was a civilian it would have been 42 years.

He also more than likely got a BCD, so his punishment will continue long after he gets out.

For some reason I saw Skipper as Flipper and had terrible... terrible images of how Gilligan made it off the island.

He's being sent to a military prison.

That's gonna be a long, long 42 months - he'll get hard labour and worse.

snoproblem: He's being sent to a military prison.

If only he was a member of a crack commando unit, then he'd be OK......

/FRIGATE!

Almost Pure: For some reason I saw Skipper as Flipper and had terrible... terrible images of how Gilligan made it off the island.

Fuggin Bizzy: Vegemite: Wolf Cola: 42 months for two counts of rape? If he was a civilian it would have been 42 years.

He also more than likely got a BCD, so his punishment will continue long after he gets out.

That, and I'll make a flying guess that 42 months means really, no shiat, 42 months. The civilian sentence would have been 42 years, but with credit for time served plus good behavior, parole eligibility in 2 years.

/I could be wrong.

It's also federal time too. That would be why they have the non judicial punishment as well, so that you aren't facing a high court for minor infractions.

During the San Diego court martial, the judge also ordered that Wylie, the former skipper of the Everett, Wash.-based destroyer USS Momsen, to forfeit future benefits.

The P-I could use a better proofreader.

CasperImproved: He really should have gotten more than 42 months. He likely ruined the lives of two others, and possibly more. As a leader, he should actually be held to a higher standard.

I can't argue against this idea. I think 42 months would be for the rank and file guys, and a longer time as the CO.

Vegemite: He also more than likely got a BCD, so his punishment will continue long after he gets out.

So what does one have to do to get a dishonorable discharge?

farkityfarker: Vegemite: He also more than likely got a BCD, so his punishment will continue long after he gets out.

So what does one have to do to get a dishonorable discharge?

Well what it really is is called dismissal, because they serve at the pleasure of the president. All discharges are for enlisted personnel only including BCD and DD. A dismissal is a DD in nature, because an officer can resign his commission at any time once his service obligation has been met. If they are dismissed it is dependent on how they are dismissed, if it involves time in the brig or Fort Leavenworth and they are dismissed it is viewed just like a DD. However, if they are just dismissed by the secretary of what ever branch or dropped from the rolls it is considered non-punitive and just considered an administrative discharge like honorable or general discharge

CasperImproved: He really should have gotten more than 42 months. He likely ruined the lives of two others, and possibly more. As a leader, he should actually be held to a higher standard.

While rape is a very serious crime, we really need to get away from the concept that it ruins your life. Really messes you up psychologically, and carries potential physical damage yes. But you are not ruined, getting that concept into the heads of victims and people who interact with them is damaging itself.

A large portion of the damage comes from the way we as a society react to anything related to sex as taboo and hyper-sacred. No victim is helped when we treat them as damaged individuals.

Again, its not that it isn't a serious violation to the victim, but we exacerbate the damage by overreacting due to the sexual link. Consider that we don't use the same hushed tones when discussing the injuries sustained by someone shot in the face in an attempted murder, and that injury is just as, if not more traumatic psychologically, and certainly more physically traumatic.

Bastard should've been given the death sentence >:(

I was thinking of how hot that was, til I got to the Gilligan part and realized it wasn't Barbie's little sister he was talking about.

TheWizard: CasperImproved: He really should have gotten more than 42 months. He likely ruined the lives of two others, and possibly more. As a leader, he should actually be held to a higher standard.

While rape is a very serious crime, we really need to get away from the concept that it ruins your life. Really messes you up psychologically, and carries potential physical damage yes. But you are not ruined, getting that concept into the heads of victims and people who interact with them is damaging itself.

A large portion of the damage comes from the way we as a society react to anything related to sex as taboo and hyper-sacred. No victim is helped when we treat them as damaged individuals.

Again, its not that it isn't a serious violation to the victim, but we exacerbate the damage by overreacting due to the sexual link. Consider that we don't use the same hushed tones when discussing the injuries sustained by someone shot in the face in an attempted murder, and that injury is just as, if not more traumatic psychologically, and certainly more physically traumatic.

I have previously read your posts, and therefore already respect you. But you are stretching those bounds by suggesting that rape is not a lifelong potential issue.

I hope you read more on this. The reality is that rape takes away from the victim all that they are. To assume it is only a physical assault is only being ignorant.

If you can't understand how traumatic rape can be, I suggest you either speak to someone that has been on the receiving end, or deal with a family member that already has.

There is little you can take away from someone that has been forced to submit to another in a sexual way. They are much more naked than words can express.

If you don't understand that,,,, I hope you focus on learning about it. In the case of being a male, how would you think an A$$ raping would make you feel while in jail for a miss-payed ticket?

Curious: Curious: Twenty officers have been relieved of command by the Navy this year.

it would be interesting to see just what commands and why.

good old google.Or better yet,

In the most recent incident this week, a squadron commander was relieved of duty for being drunk in Bahrain.

in July when this was written (new window) there were just 14 so the pace seems to be slowing down. although the severity of the offense went up.

You might want to ask "how many corporate" leaders were fired for being drunk on duty.

Or better yet, throw out the details on the terms of service you made to your country.

What? None?

And yet you have an opinion... Oh snap!

CasperImproved: Curious: Curious: Twenty officers have been relieved of command by the Navy this year.

it would be interesting to see just what commands and why.

good old google.Or better yet,

In the most recent incident this week, a squadron commander was relieved of duty for being drunk in Bahrain.

in July when this was written (new window) there were just 14 so the pace seems to be slowing down. although the severity of the offense went up.

You might want to ask "how many corporate" leaders were fired for being drunk on duty.

Or better yet, throw out the details on the terms of service you made to your country.

What? None?

And yet you have an opinion... Oh snap!

You seem a little angry. Why?

If one plans on bring a gun to bear that is contracted to the Navy they should get the requisition approved by the appropriate party before taking liberties.

Vegemite: CasperImproved: Curious: Curious: Twenty officers have been relieved of command by the Navy this year.

it would be interesting to see just what commands and why.

good old google.Or better yet,

In the most recent incident this week, a squadron commander was relieved of duty for being drunk in Bahrain.

in July when this was written (new window) there were just 14 so the pace seems to be slowing down. although the severity of the offense went up.

You might want to ask "how many corporate" leaders were fired for being drunk on duty.

Or better yet, throw out the details on the terms of service you made to your country.

What? None?

And yet you have an opinion... Oh snap!

You seem a little angry. Why?

Honestly I'm not. I just like to see everyone getting the same fair shake.

Happy Holloween btw :-)

Three whole years, huh? Wow, talk about strict. I guess the extra strictness is because the women were naval officers serving our nation's military.

Well, I guess justice has been served.

So... she grew up and became a high school teacher?



/Hot, like her developing boobies

TheWizard: While rape is a very serious crime, we really need to get away from the concept that it ruins your life. Really messes you up psychologically, and carries potential physical damage yes. But you are not ruined, getting that concept into the heads of victims and people who interact with them is damaging itself.

A large portion of the damage comes from the way we as a society react to anything related to sex as taboo and hyper-sacred. No victim is helped when we treat them as damaged individuals.

As someone who works with people who were sexually abused as children, I can tell you that the damage caused is life long and very hard to fix. And it has nothing to do with the victim consciously thinking about what happened. Even if they could forget what happened, they can't will away the mental problems that resulted.

FirstNationalBastard: h3cubus: [stevelundeberg.mvourtown.com image 380x270]

Penis goes where??

In Mr. Howell?

Delicious! I even like the cork! Nah- ah- ah....

/am I doing it wrong?

I'm not a lightswitch you know!

/obscure?

farkityfarker: As someone who works with people who were sexually abused as children, I can tell you that the damage caused is life long and very hard to fix. And it has nothing to do with the victim consciously thinking about what happened. Even if they could forget what happened, they can't will away the mental problems that resulted.


The Wizard has a point though. If society didn't blame the victim, and always overreact to the victim, to the point of having to hire people who work with the victims, so that the person working with the victim always reminds the victim of what happened, but the victim is expected to be grateful to the person working with the victim, etc. maybe the victim could get over it. Your job depends on the victim having lifelong problems, so can you be sure that you don't do anything to encourage lifelong problems?

WeenerGord: farkityfarker: As someone who works with people who were sexually abused as children, I can tell you that the damage caused is life long and very hard to fix. And it has nothing to do with the victim consciously thinking about what happened. Even if they could forget what happened, they can't will away the mental problems that resulted.


The Wizard has a point though. If society didn't blame the victim, and always overreact to the victim, to the point of having to hire people who work with the victims, so that the person working with the victim always reminds the victim of what happened, but the victim is expected to be grateful to the person working with the victim, etc. maybe the victim could get over it. Your job depends on the victim having lifelong problems, so can you be sure that you don't do anything to encourage lifelong problems?

I think you're off target ... PTSD among sexual assault survivors is very real.

If you want to go after the psychology community for quackery, look into DID / Multiple Personalities .... 100% iatrogenic, yet there are many specialists.

ParaHandy: WeenerGord: farkityfarker: As someone who works with people who were sexually abused as children, I can tell you that the damage caused is life long and very hard to fix. And it has nothing to do with the victim consciously thinking about what happened. Even if they could forget what happened, they can't will away the mental problems that resulted.


The Wizard has a point though. If society didn't blame the victim, and always overreact to the victim, to the point of having to hire people who work with the victims, so that the person working with the victim always reminds the victim of what happened, but the victim is expected to be grateful to the person working with the victim, etc. maybe the victim could get over it. Your job depends on the victim having lifelong problems, so can you be sure that you don't do anything to encourage lifelong problems?

I think you're off target ... PTSD among sexual assault survivors is very real.

If you want to go after the psychology community for quackery, look into DID / Multiple Personalities .... 100% iatrogenic, yet there are many specialists.


I don't care to "go after" anybody. TheWizard is correct that society overreacts to sex crime victims. Thus, the crime victims overreact to what happened to them. Thus, the very real PTSD.

Veterans of wars have very real PTSD, too. But society respects and honors them, doesn't make them out to be "damaged goods" who have been ruined for life.

Mind you, the reason society overreacts to sex crime victims is to keep the pressure of shame on the would be rapists. If society began to say, "oh, rape, no big deal, walk it off, sister", the crime of rape would explode. It already has, in certain communities. You know what I mean?

Meanwhile, if you have proof that DID / Multiple Personalities is 100% caused by the shrink, I'd like to see it.

Well when you're stranded on an island for so long, your options are very limited.

So you're asserting that rape isn't a big deal and that rape victims aren't really that upset and they should just get over it.

Genius.

Do you have any studies to back up that assertion or are you just typing out what sounds good inside your head?

natmar_76: So you're asserting that rape isn't a big deal and that rape victims aren't really that upset and they should just get over it. Genius. Do you have any studies to back up that assertion or are you just typing out what sounds good inside your head?


Nobody said that, did they? A couple people said that society overreacts to, or is overly harsh on the victim. That does not make the crime ok. Why would you think that?