Tut.

The BBC does some things very well, because they leave well enough alone. Top Gear, for example. Other things they do less well. Regional programming on both TV and radio are being gutted and the lack of quality has been showing for years. A few years back, I got hired by BBC Scotland as a researcher. Four months and I did no research, just attended meetings where mission statements, core objectives, community outreach, global cross-functioning, etc, were the order of the day. After that I quit and went to work in a bar.

r1niceboy: Regional programming on both TV and radio are being gutted and the lack of quality has been showing for years.

It's a self-fufilling cycle: the government cuts funding to the BBC so program quality deteriorates so the government cuts funding to the BBC, etc.

What's wrong with appealing to mouth-breathing classical music listeners?
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Y'know, when Austin Powers counted all the way up to "BBC 7", I thought it was a joke.

CBC 2 lost me a few years back when they pulled the same move.

For my money, their best period was during the strike when they played wall-to-wall classical with no DJs at all.

/Canadian story, bro.

A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

Classical music was the pop of its time.

Nogale: hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

Classical music was the pop of its time.

Pop for rich and/or noble people

I just tuned into 96.3 FM in Toronto. They're playing the theme song from Pirates of the Caribbean. And the commercials are loud and obnoxious jewelry pleas: "we'll buy your gold!"
I tend to listen to Classical radio through itunes. The downside is no knowledgeable djs or discussions.

When will they and US' PBS learn from the Discovery channels and their ilk? You can have the exact same programming but make it appealing without dumbing it down (most of the time). Same with classical music stations, and some cities are doing it with their orchestras. Raise the audience's collective intelligence, don't debase yourself.

Putting the word "EXXXtreeeemez" in the title somewhere makes it totally rad and be sure to invite the You Tube to the studio.

chaddsfarkprefect: When will they and US' PBS learn from the Discovery channels and their ilk? You can have the exact same programming but make it appealing without dumbing it down (most of the time). Same with classical music stations, and some cities are doing it with their orchestras. Raise the audience's collective intelligence, don't debase yourself.

Putting the word "EXXXtreeeemez" in the title somewhere makes it totally rad and be sure to invite the You Tube to the studio.

Why is there Thrash Metal on the Golf Channel?! (And the Food Channel & Home and Gardens?)

hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

Said the juggalo.

Read as 'Dumble Down' - thought it was mispronounce 'Tumble Down' or dumdum:

'Rumpletweezer ran the Dinky Tinky shop in the foot of the magic oak tree by the wobbly dumdum bush in the shade of the magic glade down in Dingly Dell. Here he sold contraceptives and ... discipline?... naked? ...'

/from BBC TV

Nogale: hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

Classical music was the pop of its time.

Some of it was far more radical than anything on the radio today. It would be like Elvis, the Beatles and Tu Pac rolled into one.

But it is a bit complex for our autotune world.

/not rich, but never underemployed.

chaddsfarkprefect: When will they and US' PBS learn from the Discovery channels and their ilk? You can have the exact same programming but make it appealing without dumbing it down (most of the time). Same with classical music stations, and some cities are doing it with their orchestras. Raise the audience's collective intelligence, don't debase yourself.

Putting the word "EXXXtreeeemez" in the title somewhere makes it totally rad and be sure to invite the You Tube to the studio.

It's not exactly the same, Discovery usually offers up the Cliff Notes version. It's the details that make history interesting.

hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

you know what? I just wrote out a lengthy response to this post but then decided to delete it when it occurred to me that you are nothing but a troll.

This will probably never happen to my listener-supported NPR classical station, so I am really getting a kick out of some of these replies.

/Now if only I cared about classical enough to listen to it

Oh, hey, look at that; half-formed Tory policy decisions yet again damaging the programs/communities they were "intended" to save. Who would have thunk that conservative initiatives, chosen on the basis of their ideological correctness and not any objective relation to facts, would lead to detrimental outcomes? Oh wait, every freaking citizen who's lived through the last 30 years of Republican social engineering in the US, and every Brit who can remember Thatcher's abysmal hachetization of English society; that's who would think that. Goddamn dumbass stupidfark Whig-polishing money-humpers. I hope they all acquire serious chaffing upon sensitive areas that illicit mirth from their national healthcare provider.

hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

Oh yeah utterly joyless... (new window)

Also...

Would like word with you.

/Soulless Prick!

Dear snobby classical music fans, as you're all so classically-bleeding-educated, you'll know what "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc" means.

Heron: Oh, hey, look at that; half-formed Tory policy decisions yet again damaging the programs/communities they were "intended" to save. Who would have thunk that conservative initiatives, chosen on the basis of their ideological correctness and not any objective relation to facts, would lead to detrimental outcomes? Oh wait, every freaking citizen who's lived through the last 30 years of Republican social engineering in the US, and every Brit who can remember Thatcher's abysmal hachetization of English society; that's who would think that. Goddamn dumbass stupidfark Whig-polishing money-humpers. I hope they all acquire serious chaffing upon sensitive areas that illicit mirth from their national healthcare provider.

What the pissing fark are you talking about?

The guy who made the changes has been in charge of classical music at the BBC since the nineties.

towatchoverme: For my money, their best period was during the strike when they played wall-to-wall classical with no DJs at all.

Also applies to the news and hockey.

Turns out hockey is a lot better without having two idiots yammering non-stop over the sounds of the ice and the crowd.

gwowen: Dear snobby classical music fans, as you're all so classically-bleeding-educated, you'll know what "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc" means.

I'm classically bleeding educated enough to know you don't use a hyphen after an adverb ending in "ly" ...

Off the to check to see what's on "Bravo" since I haven't watched for a while...


...*sob*

Lumber Jack Off: hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

you know what? I just wrote out a lengthy response to this post but then decided to delete it when it occurred to me that you are nothing but a troll.

I was thinking the same thing, until I realized it would give me an excuse to link to this BBC-funded performance. Completely and utterly joyless, that.

gwowen: Dear snobby classical music fans, as you're all so classically-bleeding-educated, you'll know what "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc" means.

That you're not as clever as you think you are?

gwowen: Dear snobby classical music fans, as you're all so classically-bleeding-educated, you'll know what "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc" means.

You'ld be better off making a nice hat out of all that straw. You've been in the rain too long.

/yes, "you'ld"
//don't care

kevinatilusa: Lumber Jack Off: hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

you know what? I just wrote out a lengthy response to this post but then decided to delete it when it occurred to me that you are nothing but a troll.

I was thinking the same thing, until I realized it would give me an excuse to link to this BBC-funded performance. Completely and utterly joyless, that.

This from the Proms is pretty damn amazing. After only every being exposed to Pomp and Circumstance (March no. 1) through graduations, hearing the full thing with a choir is...breathtaking. Almost always brings a tear to my eye.

chaddsfarkprefect: When will they and US' PBS learn from the Discovery channels and their ilk? You can have the exact same programming but make it appealing without dumbing it down (most of the time). Same with classical music stations, and some cities are doing it with their orchestras. Raise the audience's collective intelligence, don't debase yourself.

Putting the word "EXXXtreeeemez" in the title somewhere makes it totally rad and be sure to invite the You Tube to the studio.

Oddly enough, PBS modeling themselves after commercial cable channels was a Republican talking point about 15 years ago. They held up TLC and the History Channel as examples of what PBS could be if it would only go commercial. And they have been an example. From TLC, we have the Goslin Beast, a Quiverfull family, and people who had no idea they were pregnant. From the History Channel, we have aliens, pawn shops, and swamp people.

They are also doing too much soccer on their world service

What annoys me is the coarsening of the audiences. Time was, attending an Orchestra concert was a proper event, and men wore Black Tie. Nowadays, I go to Philadelphia Orchestra concerts and they're all in casual clothes. I stubbornly still wear Black Tie, but I'm often the only one in an audience of hundreds. At least the opening night concerts still require Black Tie.

/Friday night was Elgar's Enigma Variations. Quite edifying...

Niche-focused broadcasters seem unable to stay committed to their niche. "We want to broaden our audience." You're not supposed to!

LewDux: Nogale: hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

Classical music was the pop of its time.

Pop for rich and/or noble people

Take a look at the middle-late romantic era's audience and get back to me.

mark12A: Time was, attending an Orchestra concert was a proper event, and men wore Black Tie. Nowadays, I go to Philadelphia Orchestra concerts and they're all in casual clothes. I stubbornly still wear Black Tie, but I'm often the only one in an audience of hundreds. At least the opening night concerts still require Black Tie.

Business attire has been accepted at the orchestra, especially the Philly Orchestra, for decades. Businessmen didn't want to have to take the train all the way home to the Main Line just to change and come back into the city, so they started meeting their wives for dinner and going to the Academy in their work suits.

/If you don't believe me, read Nathanial Burt's Perennial Philadelphians.

hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

A certain deaf composer would like a word with you.

Eight years of violin lessons and school orchestra made their mark, but I can still often be found listening to rock, classic rock, and occasionally pop or electronic. Liking classical music doesn't have anything to do with 'image' for most people. For me, it's relaxing (especially if I have a migraine...)

mark12A: What annoys me is the coarsening of the audiences. Time was, attending an Orchestra concert was a proper event, and men wore Black Tie. Nowadays, I go to Philadelphia Orchestra concerts and they're all in casual clothes. I stubbornly still wear Black Tie, but I'm often the only one in an audience of hundreds. At least the opening night concerts still require Black Tie.

/Friday night was Elgar's Enigma Variations. Quite edifying...

Just wait til they show up in shorts an flip flops. People do not know how to dress anymore; women more so.

Interrupted Infinitum: LewDux: Nogale: hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

Classical music was the pop of its time.

Pop for rich and/or noble people

Take a look at the middle-late romantic era's audience and get back to me.

And this is what's wrong with music today. People listen to music not because they like the music itself, but to belong to a group or subculture. Pathetic.

Interrupted Infinitum: LewDux: Nogale: hbk72777: A. A joyless music genre that people listen to just to give the appearance of intelligence

Q. What is Classical Music

Classical music was the pop of its time.

Pop for rich and/or noble people

Take a look at the middle-late romantic era's audience and get back to me.

Not before I finish Mahler's 10th