About farking time. I was on a train this spring and they came onto the train and walked through the cars questioning everyone's citizenship. I was tempted at the time to ask them if they were just going to take my word for it, or would they like to see my papers to verify? Someone else told me they got on a Grayhound and had the border patrol come through asking people if they were citizens.

Between these guys and the TSA, it's becoming very oppressive on the travel front. I think after ten years with no further terrorism that wasn't domestic, we can drop this. I'm all for keeping bombs and terrorists off of planes, but you can't sift through everybody forever and get ever more invasive. Cutting open my shampoo bottle is not keeping the world safe for democracy.

It's called the 5th Amendment.

GAT_00: It's called the 5th Amendment.

With the SCOTUS we have right now, nobody has a prayer of having their constitutional rights upheld. All of them are crookeder than a dog's hind leg.

sheilanagig: About farking time. I was on a train this spring and they came onto the train and walked through the cars questioning everyone's citizenship. I was tempted at the time to ask them if they were just going to take my word for it, or would they like to see my papers to verify? Someone else told me they got on a Grayhound and had the border patrol come through asking people if they were citizens.

Between these guys and the TSA, it's becoming very oppressive on the travel front. I think after ten years with no further terrorism that wasn't domestic, we can drop this. I'm all for keeping bombs and terrorists off of planes, but you can't sift through everybody forever and get ever more invasive. Cutting open my shampoo bottle is not keeping the world safe for democracy.

I've been taking buses up to Canada since the 80's (wife runs a ski club) and we've always been questioned by agents at the border who went up and down the bus, the only time I remember us being harassed was when my good friend was taken off the bus and further questioned. His last name was 'Beaudin', his ancestors came from a wealthy family in Quebec Province and they held him him for two hours. Pretty funny expect it made the bus ride that much longer.
/thank god for being able to bring Molson Bradors across the border

AlwaysRightBoy: I've been taking buses up to Canada since the 80's (wife runs a ski club) and we've always been questioned by agents at the border who went up and down the bus, the only time I remember us being harassed was when my good friend was taken off the bus and further questioned. His last name was 'Beaudin', his ancestors came from a wealthy family in Quebec Province and they held him him for two hours. Pretty funny expect it made the bus ride that much longer.
/thank god for being able to bring Molson Bradors across the border

I was traveling within US borders, and so was the person who rode the Grayhound and got checked. For the longest time, checking papers at Canadian border checkpoints was just a formality. That's gotten more difficult too. Forget about international air travel, because then you get scanned intimately and a great deal poorer. Travel is not a pleasant experience anymore, and it's not something that you can do freely.

sheilanagig: Travel is not a pleasant experience anymore,

I don't have an answer for you other than we just have to deal with it. It's not gong to keep me from traveling. I just know getting to whatever destination I'm going to, I just plan accordingly. Big Brother is here

sheilanagig: GAT_00: It's called the 5th Amendment.

With the SCOTUS we have right now, nobody has a prayer of having their constitutional rights upheld. All of them are crookeder than a dog's hind leg.

So much this.

Do they still run the roadblock on I-89 in central Vermont?

I think I meant I-91, not I-89.

Shawn Moran, vice president of the union that represents agents, was outraged at the changes.



/never gets old

I travel to and from Colombia on a regular basis and the extra checking causes maybe a 15 minute delay, really no big deal to me, and it is not going to stop me from traveling.

AlwaysRightBoy: I've been taking buses up to Canada since the 80's (wife runs a ski club) and we've always been questioned by agents at the border who went up and down the bus, the only time I remember us being harassed was when my good friend was taken off the bus and further questioned. His last name was 'Beaudin', his ancestors came from a wealthy family in Quebec Province and they held him him for two hours. Pretty funny expect it made the bus ride that much longer.
/thank god for being able to bring Molson Bradors across the border

Do we really care if Canadians come down here and mill about? What are they going to do, pick our vegetables? What's the worst that could happen? If we get tired of them, they'll apologize and leave. It's not like we have any jobs for them to take, and who the fark ever heard of a Canadian terrorist?

Longtime Lurker: meh, The only time I've crossed the border via bus was one of the many trips to Canada as a college student on fraternity or ski club trips so we could all drink legally. Most of the time they just come on and ask "is everyone a citizen?" If no one says "no" they just say "ok" and let us move through. One year the US customs just waved us through without even stopping us since the weather was bad and they didn't want to bother with a bunch of college students (a pretty common occurrence at the Detroit border.).

Technically speaking, unless you're that guy Tom Hanks' character was modeled after in The Terminal, isn't everybody a citizen of somewhere? Can't you truthfully answer "yes" to the ambiguous question "Are you a citizen?" no matter what country you are in?

bravian: Um wut? Then stay home you little snowflake. I don't judge my travel experiences by the 10 minutes spent going through a TSA line or the 30 minutes going through a customs line at any international airport.

Yeah, I'm a crybaby for not feeling like I should have to choose between getting fondled or scanned if I want to travel in a free country? I should just accept getting my luggage rifled through. You might be willing to undergo many indignities to get on a plane, but I don't think you should have to. I don't think that's unreasonable.

Canada's a G7 country, is a founding member of NORAD, is a member of NATO, has banks so stable that people are thinking of making their currency a reserve currency, is the biggest trading partner that the US has --- yes, larger than either Europe or China.

If there's any country the US doesn't need to worry about, it's Canada.

I'm really surprised no Canadian politician has phoned the US to say, "About all these border delays our citizens are complaining about, including the DREs, is there anything you can do to get rid of this nonsense? It's both pointless -- ask the British and Israelis, both of whom with their generations of experience dealing with this sort if thing -- it's also insulting. We're you're farking neighbours.

"Oh, we seem to be having some trouble with our oil pipelines. Yeah, you may notice some service outages..."

So, the government should stop spending so much money, but they have to keep searching buses, trains, and airports for illegals from Canada? Got it.

gaslight: If there's any country the US doesn't need to worry about, it's Canada.

This isn't about security - it's a revenue grab.

And not just for obvious things like increased passport sales, but border states like New York get to upsell "enhanced" driver's licenses to people who do a lot of travel to Canada.

Omahawg: great. illegal bob and dougs in tooks with back bacon.

LMFAO Thank you

<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/6687238/72712906#c72712906" target="_blank">ox45tallboy</a>:</b> <i>AlwaysRightBoy: I've been taking buses up to Canada since the 80's (wife runs a ski club) and we've always been questioned by agents at the border who went up and down the bus, the only time I remember us being harassed was when my good friend was taken off the bus and further questioned. His last name was 'Beaudin', his ancestors came from a wealthy family in Quebec Province and they held him him for two hours. Pretty funny expect it made the bus ride that much longer.
/thank god for being able to bring Molson Bradors across the border

Do we really care if Canadians come down here and mill about? What are they going to do, pick our vegetables? What's the worst that could happen? If we get tired of them, they'll apologize and leave. It's not like we have any jobs for them to take, and who the fark ever heard of a Canadian terrorist?</i>

If you reread your question, you will understand. Maybe reread it twice.