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2011-10-29 01:43:16 PM
Yeah but what about the American socialist party?
 
2011-10-29 01:53:28 PM
No shiat, Sherlock.

/If only the CPUSA or SPUSA could somehow make themselves relevant...
 
2011-10-29 02:11:09 PM
OF COURSE they do. And you can bet they are all intertwined with them too.

Dear Occupiers, you have snakes in your camps.
 
2011-10-29 02:29:13 PM
Good news Republicans: you're against something even a Communist is smart enough to see is good. How smart does that make you?
 
2011-10-29 03:19:14 PM
Not interesting at all, Subby. And, no. It doesn't make OWS any more Communist than you.
 
2011-10-29 04:33:36 PM
99%

Yup. That' includes everyone, including the 20% that think the sun revolves around the earth.
 
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2011-10-29 04:37:39 PM
After the crap coming from the right wingers lately, especially about that injured Marine, I would prefer an endorsement from the Communists to one from the gop.
 
2011-10-29 05:29:47 PM
So? The Tea Party has the Klan.
 
2011-10-29 05:38:38 PM
What's wrong with communism? I mean it's as unworkable in it's pure form as capitalism is, but it isn't evil.
 
2011-10-29 06:08:53 PM
BunkyBrewman: 99%

Yup. That' includes everyone, including the 20% that think the sun revolves around the earth.
Obama's ass.
 
2011-10-29 06:14:48 PM
Barbigazi: What's wrong with communism? I mean it's as unworkable in it's pure form as capitalism is, but it isn't evil.

Hmmm, lets ask the roughly100+ million (30-40 in Russia and 70+ in China) people murdered last century because of it. Look, here's the deal, you have to exchange your individuality for the collective AND you must eliminate greed for it to ever have a chance. Both are impossible. It's an authoritarian system, a ruse.

Sorry, that's evil.
 
2011-10-29 06:23:25 PM
So does David Duke
 
2011-10-29 06:24:40 PM
Not communist, but #1 with communists.
 
2011-10-29 06:29:39 PM
Those Occupy Wall Street morons are nothing but dirty hippies Nazis Muslims communists.

What'll it be next week?
 
2011-10-29 06:35:54 PM
GaryPDX: Hmmm, lets ask the roughly100+ million (30-40 in Russia and 70+ in China) people murdered last century because of it

Wrong. 100+ million people murdered last century because of dictatorships. If you think the Soviet Union was purely communist, you're an idiot.
 
2011-10-29 06:40:59 PM
Barbigazi: What's wrong with communism? I mean it's as unworkable in it's pure form as capitalism is, but it isn't evil.

But but Stalin, Pol Pot...and how can millions of god fearing republicans be wrong?...Rhetorical question. They can't be, ergo Communism = EVIL.
 
2011-10-29 06:57:27 PM
Communism only works if everybody wants it to. So far nobody has been able to convince everybody to want it.
 
2011-10-29 07:00:17 PM
GaryPDX: Barbigazi: What's wrong with communism? I mean it's as unworkable in it's pure form as capitalism is, but it isn't evil.

Hmmm, lets ask the roughly100+ million (30-40 in Russia and 70+ in China) people murdered last century because of it. Look, here's the deal, you have to exchange your individuality for the collective AND you must eliminate greed for it to ever have a chance. Both are impossible. It's an authoritarian system, a ruse.

Sorry, that's evil.


You're talking about a political system and I'm talking about an economic system. Apples and oranges.
 
2011-10-29 07:11:31 PM
GaryPDX: It's an authoritarian system, a ruse.

Sorry, that's evil.


If you had half a brain you'd understand that it's authoritarianism that's the problem...
 
2011-10-29 07:14:38 PM
cameroncrazy1984: GaryPDX: Hmmm, lets ask the roughly100+ million (30-40 in Russia and 70+ in China) people murdered last century because of it

Wrong. 100+ million people murdered last century because of dictatorships. If you think the Soviet Union was purely communist, you're an idiot.


This. That old Republican canard needs to die, already. But look who you're arguing with. Don't expect to get anywhere.
 
2011-10-29 07:14:44 PM
Barbigazi: You're talking about a political system and I'm talking about an economic system. Apples and oranges.

Oookay. Have you heard about Ukrainian wheat in 1932-33? Stalin needed cash and he sold all the Ukrainian wheat to Western Europe starving 7-10 million Ukranians.

That's economic, right? Or is that political?

Holodomor (new window)
 
2011-10-29 07:18:50 PM
GaryPDX: Barbigazi: You're talking about a political system and I'm talking about an economic system. Apples and oranges.

Oookay. Have you heard about Ukrainian wheat in 1932-33? Stalin needed cash and he sold all the Ukrainian wheat to Western Europe starving 7-10 million Ukranians.

That's economic, right? Or is that political?

Holodomor (new window)


Yep, that'll be political. Hell, democracy and communism would go hand and hand. Pairing it with authoritarianism will kill any economic system
 
2011-10-29 07:23:08 PM
Communists also breathe air, drink water, and shiat somewhere where they don't sleep at night.

Your move, Republicans.
 
2011-10-29 07:23:40 PM
GaryPDX: Barbigazi: You're talking about a political system and I'm talking about an economic system. Apples and oranges.

Oookay. Have you heard about Ukrainian wheat in 1932-33? Stalin needed cash and he sold all the Ukrainian wheat to Western Europe starving 7-10 million Ukranians.


Since he sold it for a profit instead of giving it to starving people, that sounds rather like Capitalism to me. It's basically the 1% of the Party leadership exploiting the 99%'s hard work.
 
2011-10-29 07:23:51 PM
I wonder if even the communist party in the US is the least bit leftist? You guys can't seem to find a counterweight to off the map right wing policy.
 
2011-10-29 07:25:28 PM
Barbigazi: Yep, that'll be political. Hell, democracy and communism would go hand and hand. Pairing it with authoritarianism will kill any economic system

Look, it all boils down to greed. It cannot be eliminated from the human DNA. The greed for power is worse than the greed for money. Once you get power, you get the money. On the other hand, people are greedy for their own stuff, paychecks, homes. In Communism there is no such thing as private property. Even your carcass belongs to the Collective.

Communism is one form of authoritarianism, there are others. I, for one will definitely pass on Communism. No Thanks.
 
2011-10-29 07:25:50 PM
GaryPDX: OF COURSE they do. And you can bet they are all intertwined with them too.

Dear Occupiers, you have snakes in your camps.


OH NOES! TEH COMMIES WILL EAT UR BAYBEEZ!

Come on. Really? All you have is this red scare nonsense?
 
2011-10-29 07:26:27 PM
We're scared of communism again? I know I've said this before, but is it 1950 already?
 
2011-10-29 07:27:25 PM
erveek: Come on. Really? All you have is this red scare nonsense?

It's all they've had since the beginning of the Red Scare nonsense. They were pulling the "lol what up comrade???" routine through the entire Dubya Disaster.
 
2011-10-29 07:29:45 PM
No shiat. Is this really news to anyone?
 
2011-10-29 07:30:06 PM
GaryPDX: Barbigazi: Yep, that'll be political. Hell, democracy and communism would go hand and hand. Pairing it with authoritarianism will kill any economic system

Look, it all boils down to greed. It cannot be eliminated from the human DNA. The greed for power is worse than the greed for money. Once you get power, you get the money. On the other hand, people are greedy for their own stuff, paychecks, homes. In Communism there is no such thing as private property. Even your carcass belongs to the Collective.

Communism is one form of authoritarianism, there are others. I, for one will definitely pass on Communism. No Thanks.


You're taking a leap. I never said PURE communism, but there are some good ideas there we can and have added to our own economy for everyones benefit.

What you're doing is effectively the same as saying democracy IS tyranny of the majority. It can lead to that, but with a little fore thought like you'll find in our constitution the worst can be avoided.

Saying a particular economic system is evil isn't helpful for anyone, least of all you.
 
2011-10-29 07:30:35 PM
Oh Noes,...scary commies!
Maybe we can call in Marco Rubio since he has a record of dealing....oh wait!
 
2011-10-29 07:30:55 PM
Friskya: BunkyBrewman: 99%

Yup. That' includes everyone, including the 20% that think the sun revolves around the earth. Obama's ass.


it's shines out of his ass, can't you get anything right?
 
2011-10-29 07:31:15 PM
Tremolo: We're scared of communism again? I know I've said this before, but is it 1950 already?

To Republicans, it's ALWAYS 1950.
 
2011-10-29 07:32:30 PM
Communism will work when most women stop preferring men with money.
 
2011-10-29 07:33:17 PM
GaryPDX: The greed for power is worse than the greed for money. Once you get power, you get the money.

Once you get the money, THEN you get the women.


//say goodnite to de bad guy
 
2011-10-29 07:34:53 PM
ksdanj: GaryPDX: It's an authoritarian system, a ruse.

Sorry, that's evil.

If you had half a brain you'd understand that it's authoritarianism that's the problem...


When I was living in Prague I had a lot of conversations with people who grew up under Soviet communism, both native Czechs and immigrants from other countries once behind the iron curtain. Very few people I met believed that the communism was the problem with the Soviets. It was the authoritarianism that was the issue. And hardly anyone believed it was the communism that created the authoritarianism.

The best summation I heard -- and I heard it from a lot of people -- was this: The problem with the Soviet Union was that it was formed out of the ultra-authoritarian Czarist regimes and emulated those regimes. If they had become democratic at the same time they became communist, there probably never would have been a cold war or iron curtain.
 
2011-10-29 07:35:54 PM
Why won't the MSM panic over the same things we do? It's still 1954, don't you know there are communists under the bed? WHY DON'T YOU SHARE OUR TERROR?
 
2011-10-29 07:36:23 PM
Barbigazi: What you're doing is effectively the same as saying democracy IS tyranny of the majority. It can lead to that, but with a little fore thought like you'll find in our constitution the worst can be avoided.

No, actually I believe Marx on that one. Straight up Democracy is transitory. It leads to Socialism/Communism, or more accurately, just another Authoritarian dictatorship. Venezuela is a fine modern example.
 
2011-10-29 07:38:07 PM
GaryPDX: Barbigazi: What you're doing is effectively the same as saying democracy IS tyranny of the majority. It can lead to that, but with a little fore thought like you'll find in our constitution the worst can be avoided.

No, actually I believe Marx on that one. Straight up Democracy is transitory. It leads to Socialism/Communism, or more accurately, just another Authoritarian dictatorship. Venezuela is a fine modern example.


Democracy is a political system communism is an economic system. Apples and oranges again.
 
2011-10-29 07:38:46 PM
Barbigazi: What's wrong with communism? I mean it's as unworkable in it's pure form as capitalism is, but it isn't evil.

The ghosts of 7 million Ukrainians would beg to differ.
 
2011-10-29 07:39:09 PM
skepticultist: The best summation I heard -- and I heard it from a lot of people -- was this: The problem with the Soviet Union was that it was formed out of the ultra-authoritarian Czarist regimes and emulated those regimes. If they had become democratic at the same time they became communist, there probably never would have been a cold war or iron curtain.

I'm not a political scientist, but it seems like the problem with capitalism is that it tries to harness the power of greed (which it can ultimately never keep from destroying the system), and the problem with communism is that it tries to ignore the power of greed.
 
2011-10-29 07:40:35 PM
And David Duke endorsed the Tea Party. So what?
 
2011-10-29 07:41:19 PM
kyrg: Barbigazi: What's wrong with communism? I mean it's as unworkable in it's pure form as capitalism is, but it isn't evil.

The ghosts of 7 million Ukrainians would beg to differ.


Political systems vs. economic systems.
 
2011-10-29 07:42:02 PM
sirrerun: GaryPDX: The greed for power is worse than the greed for money. Once you get power, you get the money.

Once you get the money, THEN you get the women.


//say goodnite to de bad guy


First you get jobs, then you get the khakis, then you get the chicks.
 
2011-10-29 07:42:21 PM
kyrg: Barbigazi: What's wrong with communism? I mean it's as unworkable in it's pure form as capitalism is, but it isn't evil.

The ghosts of 7 million Ukrainians would beg to differ.


That's a problem with an Authoritarian government, not the Communist system. Please try to keep up.
 
2011-10-29 07:44:01 PM
Barbigazi: Democracy is a political system communism is an economic system. Apples and oranges again.

lol..yea okay. Well, I'll pass on the Communist Economic SystemTM too. No Thanks.
 
2011-10-29 07:44:33 PM
GaryPDX: Barbigazi: What you're doing is effectively the same as saying democracy IS tyranny of the majority. It can lead to that, but with a little fore thought like you'll find in our constitution the worst can be avoided.

No, actually I believe Marx on that one. Straight up Democracy is transitory. It leads to Socialism/Communism, or more accurately, just another Authoritarian dictatorship. Venezuela is a fine modern example.


Marx argued that capitalism led to socialism, then communism. Democracy and capitalism are not synonyms. Far from it, actually.
 
2011-10-29 07:46:18 PM
RyogaM: And David Duke endorsed the Tea Party. So what?

I agree with you in theory...in theory communism works...in theory.
 
2011-10-29 07:48:46 PM
Communists also believe in breathing oxygen. All true Republicans should stop breathing immediately to show them.
 
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