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(Washington Post)   Catholic Mass liturgy to change for the first time since the 60's; will now include segment where the faithful say "Pie Iesu domine" and hit themselves in the forehead with a board   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 173
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2011-10-28 10:03:47 AM
Frankly, I'm surprised it took Benny XVI this long to start tearing down VC2.
 
2011-10-28 10:18:02 AM
I'm not saying "and with your spirit," that's stupid.
 
2011-10-28 10:19:20 AM

twobux: Frankly, I'm surprised it took Benny XVI this long to start tearing down VC2.


What order is he? I swear he's an Opus Dei sleeper agent.
 
2011-10-28 10:21:51 AM

mitchcumstein1: I'm not saying "and with your spirit," that's stupid.


Anyone 60 or older won't have a problem with it. Hell, they used to say it in Latin.
 
2011-10-28 10:24:39 AM

twobux: mitchcumstein1: I'm not saying "and with your spirit," that's stupid.

Anyone 60 or older won't have a problem with it. Hell, they used to say it in Latin.


Fark people 60 and older.

I'd be okay with saying mass in Latin, I was forced to take the stupid language for 2 years, I'd like to be able to use it.
 
2011-10-28 10:32:55 AM

mitchcumstein1: twobux: mitchcumstein1: I'm not saying "and with your spirit," that's stupid.

Anyone 60 or older won't have a problem with it. Hell, they used to say it in Latin.

Fark people 60 and older.

I'd be okay with saying mass in Latin, I was forced to take the stupid language for 2 years, I'd like to be able to use it.


You could try picking up chicks from Ecuador, isn't that part of Latin America?
 
2011-10-28 10:40:02 AM

NuttierThanEver: You could try picking up chicks from Ecuador, isn't that part of Latin America?


Yes it is, Mr. Vice President.
 
2011-10-28 10:42:24 AM
I'm just trying to get over the fact that a guy who decided to call himself mitchcumstain cares what happens during mass.
 
2011-10-28 10:57:18 AM

Winning: I'm just trying to get over the fact that a guy who decided to call himself mitchcumstain cares what happens during mass.


It's things like that that keep us coming back to FARK every day of our lives.
 
2011-10-28 11:01:21 AM

Winning: I'm just trying to get over the fact that a guy who decided to call himself mitchcumstain cares what happens during mass.


Not a film buff?

i386.photobucket.com

And it's Cumstein
 
2011-10-28 11:02:01 AM
Pie Jesu Domine...

/pet peeve.
 
2011-10-28 11:03:29 AM

mitchcumstein1: Winning: I'm just trying to get over the fact that a guy who decided to call himself mitchcumstain cares what happens during mass.

Not a film buff?

[i386.photobucket.com image 320x240]

And it's Cumstein


Then wouldnt it be pronounced Mytch?
 
2011-10-28 11:08:04 AM

Eddy Gurge: Pie Jesu Domine...


We use Latin Latin around here, bub. The filthy papists can go fark themselves.
 
2011-10-28 11:10:59 AM

NuttierThanEver: Then wouldnt it be pronounced Mytch?


No...Mitch.

You must be Igor.
 
2011-10-28 11:17:01 AM

mitchcumstein1: NuttierThanEver: Then wouldnt it be pronounced Mytch?

No...Mitch.

You must be Igor.


No it's pronounced Eyegor
 
2011-10-28 11:32:06 AM

Eddy Gurge: Pie Jesu Domine...

/pet peeve.


www.embroideryarts.com

"... but in the Latin alphabet...."
 
2011-10-28 11:38:04 AM

BKITU: "... but in the Latin alphabet...."


t1.gstatic.com

But in the Python alphabet....
 
2011-10-28 12:21:56 PM
Will they have complimentary cilices at the entrances next to the holy water?
 
2011-10-28 12:23:22 PM
I can see many American Catholics, already weary over the pedophile priest problem and starting to learn about the Spanish Catholic Church's alleged kidnapping and selling of babies, just stop going to church, or being sucked into one of the Prosperity Doctrine cults.
 
2011-10-28 12:23:30 PM

Eddy Gurge: Pie Jesu Domine...

/pet peeve.


i105.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-28 12:23:41 PM

mitchcumstein1: I'm not saying "and with your spirit," that's stupid.


Yes, because the rest of the mass makes so much more sense.

Catholics are weird.

/ raised Catholic
 
2011-10-28 12:23:54 PM

Eddy Gurge: BKITU: "... but in the Latin alphabet...."

[t1.gstatic.com image 168x224]

But in the Python alphabet....


www.rmi.net

You were saying?
 
2011-10-28 12:24:37 PM
I know these changes are no more upsetting than what happened after Vatican II, but geeze, with all the crap going on in the Church and in the world they're worried about wording? Not enough priests to keep churches going? Molestation? Ridicule from across the globe? Never mind that; let's fix the wording in the liturgy!

/frustating
 
2011-10-28 12:25:38 PM
They're changing "And also with you?" How will Catholic Star Wars fans identify each other at parties?
 
2011-10-28 12:26:20 PM
In other news... I think "The inviolate Virgin" would make a good band name
 
2011-10-28 12:26:44 PM
Catholic Mass liturgy to change for the first time since the 60's; will now include segment where the faithful say "Pie Iesu domine" and hit themselves in the forehead with a board

Oh, if only
 
2011-10-28 12:28:53 PM
The changes suck and are a great example of change for the sake of change.

It's mostly just "let's change some words here and there to fark with everybody".

Like this part:

Other changes emphasize the difference between common English and Latin: "When supper was ended, He took the cup" becomes: "In a similar way, when supper was ended, He took this precious chalice in His holy and venerable hands."

Let's replace words with more words that essentially mean the same thing!

Perhaps the most basic change will be when the priest says: "The Lord be with you." The congregation will no longer say "And also with you." The new response is "And with your spirit."

What the fark is that even supposed to mean?

Vatican II was a big change in the fundamental way things were done. This is bullshiat that at some point must have involved powerpoint.
 
2011-10-28 12:29:02 PM
Heh heh. I larfed at the headline. I think it's funny because most people my age, unfortunately, wouldn't understand.

/raised Catholic
//feel like we did this at some point already
 
2011-10-28 12:29:04 PM
A short list of the changes:

Link (new window)
 
2011-10-28 12:29:24 PM
Rooney: Jesus! You got here you jerked off 168 times? And it's been one month since your last confession? That's an average of...

Williams: 5.6 times a day.

Rooney: Oh, my God, you can't tell him that. He'll cut your balls off.
 
2011-10-28 12:30:24 PM
''Pie Iesu domine (Donna eis requiem)'' is already chanted, it's from 'Dies Irae'.
 
2011-10-28 12:30:27 PM
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"Take a car ride with me. Touch me if you want to"
 
2011-10-28 12:31:10 PM

WalMartian: I know these changes are no more upsetting than what happened after Vatican II, but geeze, with all the crap going on in the Church and in the world they're worried about wording? Not enough priests to keep churches going? Molestation? Ridicule from across the globe? Never mind that; let's fix the wording in the liturgy!

/frustating


You know the Vatican isn't one group of people who take care of everything at the same time, right? It's got departments, like a government.... your statement is like saying "Why the fark is the government worrying about Social Security when it should be focusing on education!"... different departments, man.
 
2011-10-28 12:31:52 PM
Dona eis requiem

/smack
 
2011-10-28 12:32:08 PM
I don't understand. If you change the ritual will it still work?
 
2011-10-28 12:32:28 PM
'and with your spirit' wow, that doesn't make sense.

if they really want to make the services better for everybody they would
1) Force the priests to take public speaking courses.
2) Force the priests to take speech writing courses.
3) Force the priests to stop molesting alter boys.
4) Force the songwriters to write songs everybody can sing.
 
2011-10-28 12:32:57 PM

meat0918: I can see many American Catholics, already weary over the pedophile priest problem and starting to learn about the Spanish Catholic Church's alleged kidnapping and selling of babies, just stop going to church, or being sucked into one of the Prosperity Doctrine cults.


We have a few ex-Catholics in our Methodist church congregation. You can turn Protestant without turning into a wacko, you know.
 
2011-10-28 12:33:37 PM
So am I to understand that this change to the Liturgy will mean that confirmed pederasts will be reported to the police? Am I reading it right?
 
2011-10-28 12:34:08 PM
Just cease existing already.

Nabb1: Winning: I'm just trying to get over the fact that a guy who decided to call himself mitchcumstain cares what happens during mass.

It's things like that that keep us coming back to FARK every day of our lives.


Even with the mistake - this is the truth.
 
2011-10-28 12:35:08 PM
How about you not got to church and do something productive with your time instead?
 
2011-10-28 12:35:24 PM

Komplex: 'and with your spirit' wow, that doesn't make sense.

if they really want to make the services better for everybody they would
1) Force the priests to take public speaking courses.
2) Force the priests to take speech writing courses.
3) Force the priests to stop molesting alter boys.
4) Force the songwriters to write songs everybody can sing.


This is only #3?
 
2011-10-28 12:37:45 PM

jennyz: WalMartian: I know these changes are no more upsetting than what happened after Vatican II, but geeze, with all the crap going on in the Church and in the world they're worried about wording? Not enough priests to keep churches going? Molestation? Ridicule from across the globe? Never mind that; let's fix the wording in the liturgy!

/frustating

You know the Vatican isn't one group of people who take care of everything at the same time, right? It's got departments, like a government.... your statement is like saying "Why the fark is the government worrying about Social Security when it should be focusing on education!"... different departments, man.


Yes, I realize that. And in being so departmentalized - or compartmentalized - they cannot see the big picture. At this point, they are shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.
 
2011-10-28 12:38:02 PM

jennyz: WalMartian: I know these changes are no more upsetting than what happened after Vatican II, but geeze, with all the crap going on in the Church and in the world they're worried about wording? Not enough priests to keep churches going? Molestation? Ridicule from across the globe? Never mind that; let's fix the wording in the liturgy!

/frustating

You know the Vatican isn't one group of people who take care of everything at the same time, right? It's got departments, like a government.... your statement is like saying "Why the fark is the government worrying about Social Security when it should be focusing on education!"... different departments, man.


It's not like a government. It is a government

jennyz: WalMartian: I know these changes are no more upsetting than what happened after Vatican II, but geeze, with all the crap going on in the Church and in the world they're worried about wording? Not enough priests to keep churches going? Molestation? Ridicule from across the globe? Never mind that; let's fix the wording in the liturgy!

/frustating

You know the Vatican isn't one group of people who take care of everything at the same time, right? It's got departments, like a government.... your statement is like saying "Why the fark is the government worrying about Social Security when it should be focusing on education!"... different departments, man.


It isn't like a government. It is a government.

And just like a government, if you aren't doing something your budget gets cut. Obviously somebody needed to justify their existence and budget and created this pile of shiat. I dunno, maybe if your department gets cut they send you to a diocese in Somalia or something.

Also, my last piece of crap Bishop (seriously, nuns walked out of one of his "lectures" at a Catholic school) got 'promoted' to the Vatican and dollars to doughnuts he was involved in this some how. I can sense it.
 
2011-10-28 12:38:56 PM
Let's try this again... mods, if I accidentally double post, delete one please.

FTA: Millions of books are being replaced; each parish must buy its own.

For a lot of cash strapped tiny parishes, that's going to do them in.

/former Catholic
//recovered
 
2011-10-28 12:40:08 PM

Guidette Frankentits: How about you not got to church and do something productive with your time instead?


Church is the single most productive thing that has ever occurred on the average Sunday morning since the 40 hour work week was introduced and you know it.

Your either at church, in bed, or trying to make coffee.
 
2011-10-28 12:41:04 PM

TapDancingTamarin: Let's try this again... mods, if I accidentally double post, delete one please.

FTA: Millions of books are being replaced; each parish must buy its own.

For a lot of cash strapped tiny parishes, that's going to do them in.

/former Catholic
//recovered


That, too. Great time to be in the missal/missalette publishing biz.
 
2011-10-28 12:41:58 PM
I might have to go to church at some point and hear this for meself
 
2011-10-28 12:43:24 PM

TapDancingTamarin: Let's try this again... mods, if I accidentally double post, delete one please.

FTA: Millions of books are being replaced; each parish must buy its own.

For a lot of cash strapped tiny parishes, that's going to do them in.

/former Catholic
//recovered


Also, since those cash-strapped tiny parishes can't generate enough income to warrant a full-time priest, their parishioners will find themselves facing locked doors and an hour commute to another church.
 
2011-10-28 12:45:15 PM
Like pounding nails into their religion's own wrists and feet coffin. I am most pleased.
 
2011-10-28 12:45:56 PM

Spade: Church is the single most productive thing that has ever occurred on the average Sunday morning since the 40 hour work week was introduced and you know it.

Your either at church, in bed, or trying to make coffee.


www.galacticbinder.com

Finds your lack of football disturbing.
 
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