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Why didn't he select his Fark tab before answering the door?

So I shouldn't make it my screen saver?

And I'll start keeping a pair of pants by the front door.

"illegal use of minors in a nudity-oriented performance."

It sounds sexier when you use the acronym

IUOMIANOP

Here's another suggestion for the pedophiles: ignore the previous advice. Anything you can do to help the cops get you off the street is fine by me.

I don't know why a person would ever answer the door naked kiddy porn or no.

Incog_Neeto: I don't know why a person would ever answer the door naked kiddy porn or no.

He was expecting a pizza.

That's how all my child porn starts, anyway.

"Deputies said Davis answered the door in the nude, and they escorted him inside to retrieve some clothing."

So he opened the door a hair and then squeezed his ass out to hide what was behind him? Or did he just fling the door open and strut outside?

Incog_Neeto: I don't know why a person would ever answer the door naked kiddy porn or no.

Some folks claim it scares away religious door knockers.
It might... if you are ugly.

Chris Hanses was quoted as saying: "Dude, you're making this too easy."

Sticky Hands: Incog_Neeto: I don't know why a person would ever answer the door naked kiddy porn or no.

Some folks claim it scares away religious door knockers.


What a religious door knocker might look like

Sometimes I think people are just dying to get caught. Money embezzlers who just keep doing it out of greed, after stealing more than enough, or alcoholics who have countless DWI's have that destructive behavior.

LeroyBourne: Sometimes I think people are just dying to get caught. Money embezzlers who just keep doing it out of greed, after stealing more than enough, or alcoholics who have countless DWI's have that destructive behavior.

wive's who keep lieing to you, even thought they know you monitor their every move..

skinink: Here's another suggestion for the pedophiles: ignore the previous advice. Anything you can do to help the cops get you off the street is fine by me.

Isn't a pedophile somebody who actually molests children?

mike0023: skinink: Here's another suggestion for the pedophiles: ignore the previous advice. Anything you can do to help the cops get you off the street is fine by me.

Isn't a pedophile somebody who actually molests children?

Technically, no. Pedophilia is just sexual attraction to children, whether you act on it or not. A person who actually molests children is... a child molester which this guy isn't. Creepy, but a lot of people are. It's a thoughtcrime, though, which is somehow just as severe as actually molesting children in a lot of places. Arresting people for simply having child porn doesn't actually stop child porn from being produced, but hey, it feels good to arrest and publically humiliate someone because they're deviant rather than look at the situation and determine he's probably harmless, if weird.

Incog_Neeto: I don't know why a person would ever answer the door naked

Jehovah's Witnesses's, Mormons.

gibbon1: Incog_Neeto: I don't know why a person would ever answer the door naked

Jehovah's Witnesses's, Mormons.

Unless you are expecting someone never answer the door.

// Never answers the door bell
// Friends know to call first

Sick tag out sick?

skinink: Anything you can do to help the cops get you off the street is fine by me.

He wasn't on the street as far as we know. A few years in prison and being a registered sex offender will do that, though.

Gone In 26 Minutes: mike0023: skinink: Here's another suggestion for the pedophiles: ignore the previous advice. Anything you can do to help the cops get you off the street is fine by me.

Isn't a pedophile somebody who actually molests children?

Technically, no. Pedophilia is just sexual attraction to children, whether you act on it or not. A person who actually molests children is... a child molester which this guy isn't. Creepy, but a lot of people are. It's a thoughtcrime, though, which is somehow just as severe as actually molesting children in a lot of places. Arresting people for simply having child porn doesn't actually stop child porn from being produced, but hey, it feels good to arrest and publically humiliate someone because they're deviant rather than look at the situation and determine he's probably harmless, if weird.

This is the most cogent argument on this subject I've read on Fark. Good job.

ferretman: Say if he is a nudist and only reviewing film taken at a nudist function. Would that still be considered CP? From the description in the article it doesn't appear to be more than naked dancing, though the article is light on the details. If such is the case he was wrongfully arrested and now his name has been associated with pedos....

In the context of a nudist community, if we give them the benefit of the doubt, it wouldn't be a "nudity-oriented performance" if the nudity was incidental to the performance and not integral to the performance. You're not a stripper if you weren't wearing anything to begin with and aren't acting like a stripper. Theory not applicable if the "obvious child porn" in TFA is actually that.

Acting on a tip? He TOLD someone he was looking at child porn or something?

CujoQuarrel: gibbon1: Incog_Neeto: I don't know why a person would ever answer the door naked

Jehovah's Witnesses's, Mormons.

Unless you are expecting someone never answer the door.

// Never answers the door bell
// Friends know to call first

What if they were just in a car accident and lost their phone and are moments away from bleeding out? Didn't think of that one didya!

lewismarktwo: CujoQuarrel: gibbon1: Incog_Neeto: I don't know why a person would ever answer the door naked

Jehovah's Witnesses's, Mormons.

Unless you are expecting someone never answer the door.

// Never answers the door bell
// Friends know to call first

What if they were just in a car accident and lost their phone and are moments away from bleeding out? Didn't think of that one didya!

Hmmm

Nope. Still not answering the door.
They should have called before they had the car accident and lost their cell phone.

Planning you know

I think he really want the cops know that he's really happy to see them.

CujoQuarrel: gibbon1: Incog_Neeto: I don't know why a person would ever answer the door naked

Jehovah's Witnesses's, Mormons.

Unless you are expecting someone never answer the door.

// Never answers the door bell
// Friends know to call first


Bingo. He was expecting someone and he was just doing some preliminary "stretching" beforehand.

/or so I heard

Gone In 26 Minutes: mike0023: skinink: Here's another suggestion for the pedophiles: ignore the previous advice. Anything you can do to help the cops get you off the street is fine by me.

Isn't a pedophile somebody who actually molests children?

Technically, no. Pedophilia is just sexual attraction to children, whether you act on it or not. A person who actually molests children is... a child molester which this guy isn't. Creepy, but a lot of people are. It's a thoughtcrime, though, which is somehow just as severe as actually molesting children in a lot of places. Arresting people for simply having child porn doesn't actually stop child porn from being produced, but hey, it feels good to arrest and publically humiliate someone because they're deviant rather than look at the situation and determine he's probably harmless, if weird.

thoughtcrime - that's like being Catholic.

while i understand and appreciate the kiddies a no-no, in a way wouldn't it make sense for the stuff that is confiscated by police be cataloged and sold (just as playboy or hustler etc) to raise money to help the children? it may sound backwards, but i'm thinking the damage is already done. and these fellows that are viewing this are obviously getting it somewhere.

i understand one may say 'that is creating the marketplace' but no, it is material already distrbuted. put the farkers that make this shiat out of business is the bottom line. so that More kids do not become victimized. and use the money to get help for the kids that have been harmed. does this make any sense?

freetomato: Does anyone but me remember a show years ago (perhaps on HBO?) that followed a group of sex offenders (who they stated as having the highest rate of recidivism) who volunteered for an experiment where they got a blast of ammonia up the nose when they got excited by images of rape/child molestation, etc? Since the guys had volunteered for it, it was not considered "cruel and unusual" - they wanted to change their deviant ways. I seem to recall that almost all of these guys kept their noses clean afterward. This was a long time ago, when cable TV was new (yeah, I'm kinda old....)

The internet tough girl part of me is perfectly okay with chemical or physical castration for baby rapers. I also understand they are segregated from the general population in prison for their safety. That's a segment of humanity we can do without as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, this guy was just "looking" but do you think, given a chance, he wouldn't have acted on his urges? I'm a paralegal when in uniform. One of our aviators, a clean cut, handsome pilot, spent 4 years in prison for molesting his 12 year old stepdaughter. I accidentally opened his file and saw printouts of the shiat that was on his computer and I was horrified. Little...girls...doing stuff. Someone's little 6-10 year old girls. I was furious and disgusted. I ran and doublechecked the reg - yeah, no need for us to keep that. Case closed. Into the shredder it went. This creep is on the GA Bureau of Investigation Sex Offender registry now. I wonder how he explains to new acquaintances that he once was a USAF pilot and is now a truck driver living in a shiatty apartment.

It's dependent on the person, not the material. The fact that someone was caught diddling children has a collection of CP doesn't surprise me, but not all people who collect CP are child diddlers. If you need any proof of that, just look at your local sex offender registry and look at how many of the people caught with CP in stings have actually been accused of diddling children. To me, actually having CP is no worse than having unpublished/classified photos of a murder victim. It's really weird that you get off to that sorta thing, yes, but you aren't actually hurting anybody by doing it.

It's not just CP, honestly. It's anything 'questionable.' I don't think anybody should be arrested/humiliated/whatever for a crime they never committed because they have a weird fetish that they don't actually act on. A -LOT- of people do. A lot of people have a rape fetish, but don't actually rape people. A lot of people have a fetish for murdering somebody while having sex with them, but don't actually murder people. Both of those people might collect various images depicting both things or roleplay out scenes with other people who have that fetish on the internet. As long as you actually aren't hurting another person or doing something that would aid in hurting another person (knowingly, anyway,) then I don't see why someone should be treated as if they had.

As the person who just responded to me said, there is no 'market creation' here. The material already exists and freely available too, just spend some time on Freenet or TOR. From what I've read in the stories that do get published about people that get caught, they tend to either share their material with friends/fellow molesters or just publish it freely on forums for the sake of doing so and maybe some weird thrill that somebody is masturbating to their material.

I fully agree that people that actually harm children (and I do mean children, not this '21-year-old-man-goes-to-jail-for-sleeping-with-his-16-year-old-girlfr iend' shiat that is becoming more and more common) this way should be punished with severity, but I don't think it's the government's job to do so through capital punishment. Prison is enough. A bit of time in general population will take care of the problem itself. As for people who just jerk off to the pictures and don't actually have any mind to touch children, though... they're not hurting anybody and the great majority of them don't pose a threat either which is why you never hear about those people - they just don't get caught. The ones that do get caught via sting operations rather than actual child molesting, for example: the greatest crime they committed was being in possession of CP and have never touched a child inappropriately in their lives.

I look at this from a roleplayer's point of view, I guess. What happens when it stops being just pictures and they start setting up sting operations in online games or on RP sites to bust people who want to RP out a scene through text that would be illegal IRL? Right now you can say 'there's no connection at all. these are photos of real people and real children were actually harmed,' but that argument doesn't hold up when some countries (England specifically in this example) ban and prosecute the import and production of hentai that depicts children. I hate the term 'slippery slope,' but that's exactly what this is.

You cannot stop sexually deviant thought. It's impossible. You can, however, stop prosecuting people who are trying to find ways to fulfill their fetishes without actually hurting another person.

/That pilot sounded like a scumbag and deserved to have his life ruined, though. Karma's a biatch.