Short? Didn't they start this list up months ago?

To those of you who didn't register in time...




HA-HA!

so if you didn't add your phone number within the short amount of time you are out of luck

Yeah, you've only had a few months.

Here's the part where everyone posts their oh so clever ways of making those $7/hr telemarketers' lives even more miserable.

Just get a cell phone.

hey TheOmni: WE KNOW. THANKS.

TheOtherGuyFromWham, did you happen to watch I Love the Eighties?

I agree, no telemarketer calls ever, and if I do get a call I can get all pissy. I also live in a town where I always have signal so getting cut out isn't a problem. don't worry cell phone nazis I never use it at public places. It does kinda suck though, when telemarketers called you could at least hope it was someone with something interesting to do or say before you answered

Good! In fact, dump the entire "do not call" list.

What's the deal with you poeple? You need the government to fight your petty battles for you?

Buy a freakin' answering machine and don't answer the phone! Is that so hard?

Idiots.

amazingrando3000

Buy a freakin' answering machine and don't answer the phone! Is that so hard?

So what you're saying is, just because I don't want to get calls from a telemarketer, I'm supposed to get an answering machine, let it ring a couple times, then when I figure out that it's NOT a telemarketer, run to the phone and pick it up?

I've got better things to do than sit next to a phone or think of silly-ass ways to waste even more of my time. I have the right to talk to who I want on my phone that I pay for, and I should be able to do it without jumping through hoops.

Nope didn't see that.

I just don't know how it's legal for the government to make a blanket statement tat these people can't call these people. Like a lotof these sorts of laws, they sound nice but no one takes into account the ramifications, ie the legal precedents that they can cause.

And the last people I'd take it out on are the telemarketers themselves (no, I'm not a telemarketer). They don't want to be there, they know they're disturbing you, they just want to get through the day without killing themselves or their co-workers.

TheOtherGuyFromWham: I do have a cell phone, but I am unable to send or receive faxes or access the internet by it. If a telemarketer does not heed the list which is essentially the same as somoene disobeying a "No Solicitors" sign on my door they are not respecting me and will therefore not be given my respect.

[i]I have the right to talk to who I want on my phone that I pay for, and I should be able to do it without jumping through hoops.[/i]

No you don't. Where is that in the Constitution? I pay for cable, that doesn't mean I have the right to not be exposed to commercials. I pay for internet service, that doesn't mean that I can avoid pop ups and banners without DLing software. It's not an exact analogy but paying for a service does not privitize it to the point where you're insulated from everything but what you want to see or hear.

Jebus this country is full of some whiny biatches.

If a telemarketer does not heed the list which is essentially the same as somoene disobeying a "No Solicitors" sign on my door

No, actually one involves calling someone on the phone and one involves encroaching on someone's property. I'm not even sure about the legalities of the latter.

Neal Boortz had a good argument (I think it was him making this). Your phone line is your private property. Having your number on this list is the same as putting up a 'no trespassing' sign to unwanted salesmen on your property. Therefore, this list is justifiable.

You are entitled to private property rights, unless Wal-Mart and your local government jointly wishes to seize it from you!

For you legal types out there, do you know if your phone line is considered as such?

My phone is on my property, just don't call me. At least 50 million americans share my viewpoint.

I got a computer, if I wanna talk to someone I just shoot them a message. If my phone rings, I occasionally glance in its direction, but that's about it. Works for me. The do not call list would be nice, just because it would be a bit quieter. But I suppose I could always unhook the phone if it gets too annoying.

No you don't. Where is that in the Constitution?

I see. So if telemarketing isn't in the constitution, then companies don't have a right to do it?

I pay for cable, that doesn't mean I have the right to not be exposed to commercials.

No, but Coca-Cola doesn't have a right to come into your living room and force you to watch the commercials.

This subject has been argued many times over in past threads so I won't waste any time argueing about it further. However there is just one thing I don't understand, and that is that I've never purchased a damn thing, nor has anyone else in my household, from a telemarketer, and now through the "do not call list" I've made it painfully clear that I have no interest in hearing from them in the future, so why the hell do they fight this? I would think that I'd be doing them as much a service as I am to myself by saving them the time of calling me 5+ times a day.

What if you move and want your new number on the list? You're SOL? This is stupid.

Just like Gear Jammer, I don't understand the telemarketers in this case. The people who took the iniative to put their numbers on the list are the people who aren't going to buy anything from them anyway. They should be grateful for the list as it makes the saps who will purchase vinyl siding over the phone easier to find.

Also, the list is being sold to telemarketers, but you can't be penalized if you don't have the list. On what planet does this make sense? The FTC/FCC seems to be doing a rather half-assed job on this. Either fight it in court or make it totally voluntary.

Spince

I have the right to talk to who I want on my phone . . .

No you don't. But let's assume you do. Do you really think that it's the governments job to stop people from calling you?

At worst telemarketing is annoying. You do not have the right to not be annoyed.

I believe the rationale for that Gear Jammer is: the telemarketers feel that you are just a feeble minded little scmuck who is putting themself on the list because you are afraid that you may get conned someday. They feel you are just trying to protect yourself from giving into their salespitch.

hate to tell you, but you don't own your phone line, you pay to use it.. it's a service provided to you.. you're not entitled to it nor is it a right to own a phone. So unless your name is Ma Bell get the fark over it.

I suspect the reason that telemarketers don't want the list is that people will sign up their elderly parents or others who are easy targets.

I own my phone line

Man I was afraid of this but here I go getting drawn into this...

Hello_Kthullu
hate to tell you, but you don't own your phone line, you pay to use it.. it's a service provided to you.. you're not entitled to it nor is it a right to own a phone

Would the same not apply to the tellemarketrs?

maybe i have a sick mind...

i like it when telemarketers call me. if it's a female i immediately start talking really nasty and perverted to her like asking her, "what kind of panties do you have on?".

if it's a man i'll get him talking to me for like a half an hour while i'm doing other things like sitting on the toilet or on the net... then i say something like, "i hope your time wasted was more important than mine" and hang up.

dick

Basically this is how I look at it:

Before phones, mail, and television knowing who sold what involed you going to the store and looking around.

With catalogs and TV commericials it suddenly became very convient to find out who was selling what at what price. Just flip through the magazine or turn on the tube.
So companies that did do this had a great advantage over companies that didn't.

Now so many companies do it on so many levels it's like white noise. No one buys anything because they saw a cool commerical for it. They buy the same shiat they've always bought. Commericials and junk mail is just like white noise, we discard it. Telemarkers are harder to ignore because it actually involves interaction. You ever have that coworker or family emember that SHUT WON'T SHUT UP? Same thing.

Basically the sentiment was: "Wow. I can know whats out there BEFORE I got the store!"

No it's: "I know what's out there god damnit! Shut up already!"

Forgive typos and redundancies.

hate to tell you, but you don't own your phone line, you pay to use it.. it's a service provided to you.. you're not entitled to it nor is it a right to own a phone

You own your phone. And you certainly have a right to decide who uses your property.

For those who are sayinig you don't have the right, not even the courts would go so far as to say that. So, you're all alone in that regard. The law supports do not call lists. The reason the two judges ruled against them had nothing to do with the legality of the do not call lists.

The first judge simply ruled that the FTC did not have the authority to run the list. Congress took care of that.

The second judge didn't have a problem with the do not call list, but said there was a problem with the way it was being implemented. He said you can't block telemarketers and allow non profit organizations and politicians.

So, the concept of a do not call list is perfectly legal and saying that you don't have a right to prevent people from calling is simply false. Get over it.

Bah. I didn't even see that one. I hate working Mids.

I'm with GearJammer on this one. The Do Not Call List is a tool specifically designed to increase the margins of the cold-call companies. In the U.K it went through without any problems. Bizarre.

You're lucky SpinStopper. SurfControl won't let me read Fark bios so I can't tell if you're female and thus respond with an (in)appropriate innuendo about beatings.

I think I almost made a telemarketer cry once.

She called asking about one of my roomates and some credit card offer. I went off on some tirade about if he wants one he'll contact them. I swear at the end of the call her voice was shakey.

Then I hung up on my old highschool when they called asking for donations. They kept calling back for like 30 minutes! I let it ring, I answered and immediately hung up, they still kept calling!

Most of the time I just hang up, patientlly waiting for the list to kick in, but occasionally I will start talking quietly then bash the phone against the wall mount and hang up.

I think I almost made a telemarketer cry once.

I plan on giving them about a one month amnesty period, then I start making their ears bleed.

Hehehe

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