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(ESPN) Cool Houston QB Case Keenum throws 534 yards and 9 touchdowns against Rice, has the defenses of Barley, Oats, and Wheat terrified   (espn.go.com) divider line 68
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2011-10-28 12:34:56 AM
John barleycorn must die!
 
2011-10-28 04:01:54 AM
Subby has a rye sense of humor.
 
2011-10-28 04:20:22 AM
I'm sure that the sports press will mead this achievement with no small amount of praise.

/Who am I kidding- Skip Bayless will rape a baby before he shiats all over this
 
2011-10-28 05:41:49 AM
Keenum sure hops a lot when he scores a touchdown.

/corny headline, submitter
//my opinion doesn't mean beans
 
2011-10-28 07:11:16 AM
Sounds like a top 40 quarterback
 
2011-10-28 07:54:27 AM
Didn't he rape a girl in 1990?
 
2011-10-28 08:11:11 AM
Scott van Pelt kept emphasizing on SC that Rice was on the road for this game. I wonder if he realized that the schools are all of 3 miles apart. Rice probably could have used their own locker room during halftime.
 
2011-10-28 08:20:26 AM
I'd like to hijack this thread to announce U-V-A! GO, HOOS! GO!
 
2011-10-28 08:36:47 AM
An undefeated ranked team shiat on a much defeated unranked team? Well, I'm shocked!
 
2011-10-28 09:02:10 AM
Cougar high!

Nothing like a commuter school vs. a strange nerd school in an inter-city rivalry.
 
2011-10-28 09:03:44 AM
Also, it would have been funny if he had a career ending injury when they were up by so much and the classless coach kept him in the game, guess he wants to be Bob Stoops.
 
2011-10-28 09:05:11 AM
Am I the only one who's disappointed at the lack of Casey Kasum jokes here?
 
2011-10-28 09:24:32 AM
ArtosRC: I'm sure that the sports press will mead this achievement with no small amount of praise.

/Who am I kidding- Skip Bayless will rape a baby before he shiats all over this


A quarterback who puts up 400 on a bad day because the entire offense revolves alround throwing constantly had a good day against one of the worst defenses in 1A. Whoopty shiat.
 
2011-10-28 09:25:56 AM
hbk72777: Sounds like a top 40 quarterback

I think you and I are on the same wavelength.
 
2011-10-28 09:26:01 AM
I read that as Casey Kasem, and it was much cooler.
 
2011-10-28 09:26:22 AM
This headline is the pits.
 
2011-10-28 09:32:07 AM
Why don't guys like this ever pan out in the NFL? Different style of play or something?
 
2011-10-28 09:35:41 AM
lilplatinum: Cougar high!

Nothing like a commuter school vs. a strange nerd school in an inter-city rivalry.


Nothing says C-USA like commuter school vs. a strange nerd school in an inter-city rivalry.

Still, I want Houston to go 13-0 and sneak into a BCS bowl. My dream BCS scenario is this: Clemson vs. Boise in the BCS title game, just so people get pissed off about the system and tune out in droves. Go non-AQs!!!!
 
2011-10-28 09:38:46 AM
Jamdug!: Why don't guys like this ever pan out in the NFL? Different style of play or something?

Because playing against juggernauts like Rice, East Carolina, Marshall and Georgia State is different than playing in the NFL?
 
2011-10-28 09:41:05 AM
Lots of jealousy in this thread.
 
2011-10-28 09:48:24 AM
Jamdug!: Why don't guys like this ever pan out in the NFL? Different style of play or something?

For one, in the NFL your receivers aren't normally allowed to run freely down field with no defenders within 30 yards of them. These guys are normally average accuracy ratings, but put up big stats when they play against poor/slow defenses. It's easy to make a complete pass when the receiver has all the time in the world to adjust. That, plus if you break down the stats into yards per attempt, they start to look much more normal.
 
2011-10-28 09:51:14 AM
ragekage: I'd like to hijack this thread to announce U-V-A! GO, HOOS! GO!

No kidding...GT and Miami in three weeks...so glad I didn't hit the NC State game. My company was giving out free tics for the GT game, hit that one instead, ended up being pretty good considering I thought GT would destroy 'em.
 
2011-10-28 09:51:47 AM
What I don't get is why Houston keep Keenum out there the entire game. Not because of the sportsmanship or injury angles, but because of NEXT FARKING YEAR. Case Keenum is a Senior, which means bye-bye after this season.

When Boise St. is beating the tar of some 100th-ranked school just as Houston did to Rice, they pull Kellen Moore (a Senior) out of the game somewhere in the 3rd quarter just to give their back-up and 3rd-string QBs some experience so they don't go 8-5 in 2012 when he's gone. Does Houston believe that they have no short/medium-term future without Keenum and just decided to roll with it?
 
2011-10-28 09:59:07 AM
Why is Rice still D1?
 
2011-10-28 10:04:59 AM
As long as you are undefeated, you should keep all your starters in the whole game and beat your opponent as bad as possible. This helps your computer ranking, etc. How would it feel to see LSU versus Clemson because you let your 3rd string D give up 14 unanswered to win by only 34, and come in BCS #3 BY 0.0001?
 
2011-10-28 10:07:19 AM
318 yards and 5 touchdowns are great numbers for a QB at the college level.

But for a receiver? That is a monster game.
 
2011-10-28 10:08:15 AM
SevenizGud: As long as you are undefeated, you should keep all your starters in the whole game and beat your opponent as bad as possible. This helps your computer ranking, etc. How would it feel to see LSU versus Clemson because you let your 3rd string D give up 14 unanswered to win by only 34, and come in BCS #3 BY 0.0001?

It only helps the human rankings, not the computer rankings. But the point remains the same. The computers aren't allowed to use margin of victory in their algorithms.
 
2011-10-28 10:13:05 AM
Lost Thought 00: For one, in the NFL your receivers aren't normally allowed to run freely down field with no defenders within 30 yards of them. It's easy to make a complete pass when the receiver has all the time in the world to adjust.

I could throw for 400 yards if my receivers were so much faster than the DBs all i had to do was lob it up as far as I could throw it.

/and over that mountain too.
 
2011-10-28 10:13:37 AM
lilplatinum: Jamdug!: Why don't guys like this ever pan out in the NFL? Different style of play or something?

Because playing against juggernauts like Rice, East Carolina, Marshall and Georgia State is different than playing in the NFL?


Fred Davis came out of Coe College and is currently the top rated running back in the NFL. You can coach players regardless of where they came from.

Don't be a snarky dick for no reason.
 
2011-10-28 10:19:00 AM
Jamdug!: lilplatinum: Jamdug!: Why don't guys like this ever pan out in the NFL? Different style of play or something?

Because playing against juggernauts like Rice, East Carolina, Marshall and Georgia State is different than playing in the NFL?

Fred Davis came out of Coe College and is currently the top rated running back in the NFL. You can coach players regardless of where they came from.

Don't be a snarky dick for no reason.




3.bp.blogspot.com

Running back is the one position that transitions best from lower-tier colleges to the NFL. Film at 11.
 
2011-10-28 10:21:49 AM
Houston, always running up the score when they can. Unsporting.

Poor Owls.
 
2011-10-28 10:22:18 AM
SevenizGud: As long as you are undefeated, you should keep all your starters in the whole game and beat your opponent as bad as possible. This helps your computer ranking, etc. How would it feel to see LSU versus Clemson because you let your 3rd string D give up 14 unanswered to win by only 34, and come in BCS #3 BY 0.0001?

No. No it does not.

Houston ran it up to boost Keenum's alleged Heisman hopes.
 
2011-10-28 10:24:06 AM
svenge: Jamdug!: lilplatinum: Jamdug!: Why don't guys like this ever pan out in the NFL? Different style of play or something?

Because playing against juggernauts like Rice, East Carolina, Marshall and Georgia State is different than playing in the NFL?

Fred Davis came out of Coe College and is currently the top rated running back in the NFL. You can coach players regardless of where they came from.

Don't be a snarky dick for no reason.



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Running back is the one position that transitions best from lower-tier colleges to the NFL. Film at 11.


So is that the answer to my original question - positions other than RB can't be coached from low-tier to NFL? I doubt it.
 
2011-10-28 10:28:23 AM
Jamdug!: Fred Davis came out of Coe College and is currently the top rated running back in the NFL.

Yes, he asked why don't "guys like this" pan out in the NFL.

A running back is not like a quarterback.

Pocket passers who play against shiatty defenses are going to have a bit of a difficult time transitioning to the NFL - they will have less time in the pocket and their recievers won't constantly be wide open.
 
2011-10-28 10:29:26 AM
Jamdug!: So is that the answer to my original question - positions other than RB can't be coached from low-tier to NFL? I doubt it.

They certainly CAN be and I'm sure there have been examples of it, but generally putting up big numbers against teams that shouldn't even be in division IA is a bit different than even high end college football, let alone NFL.
 
2011-10-28 10:30:08 AM
lilplatinum: Jamdug!: Fred Davis came out of Coe College and is currently the top rated running back in the NFL.

Yes, he asked why don't "guys like this" pan out in the NFL.

A running back is not like a quarterback.

Pocket passers who play against shiatty defenses are going to have a bit of a difficult time transitioning to the NFL - they will have less time in the pocket and their recievers won't constantly be wide open.


Well, there you go. That wasn't so hard.
 
2011-10-28 10:30:17 AM
Jamdug!: svenge: Jamdug!: lilplatinum: Jamdug!: Why don't guys like this ever pan out in the NFL? Different style of play or something?

Because playing against juggernauts like Rice, East Carolina, Marshall and Georgia State is different than playing in the NFL?

Fred Davis came out of Coe College and is currently the top rated running back in the NFL. You can coach players regardless of where they came from.

Don't be a snarky dick for no reason.



[3.bp.blogspot.com image 200x150]

Running back is the one position that transitions best from lower-tier colleges to the NFL. Film at 11.

So is that the answer to my original question - positions other than RB can't be coached from low-tier to NFL? I doubt it.


Not with any consistency, no. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule with undeniable talent that went FCS or D2 for various reasons (didn't attract much attention in HS, wanted to be closer to home, and/or discipline issues) but it's a crapshoot.
 
2011-10-28 10:35:35 AM
lilplatinum: Jamdug!: So is that the answer to my original question - positions other than RB can't be coached from low-tier to NFL? I doubt it.

They certainly CAN be and I'm sure there have been examples of it, but generally putting up big numbers against teams that shouldn't even be in division IA is a bit different than even high end college football, let alone NFL.


I hear that. Of those 5 QB's Ty Detmer is the only one that 'made' it in the NFL (he just played forever) but he wasn't really a great QB by any means. Brennan is already out of the league and Harrell will probably never play significantly.
 
2011-10-28 10:39:34 AM
svenge: What I don't get is why Houston keep Keenum out there the entire game. Not because of the sportsmanship or injury angles, but because of NEXT FARKING YEAR. Case Keenum is a Senior, which means bye-bye after this season.

When Boise St. is beating the tar of some 100th-ranked school just as Houston did to Rice, they pull Kellen Moore (a Senior) out of the game somewhere in the 3rd quarter just to give their back-up and 3rd-string QBs some experience so they don't go 8-5 in 2012 when he's gone. Does Houston believe that they have no short/medium-term future without Keenum and just decided to roll with it?


Keenum missed most of last season due to injury, and UH played a few QBs in his place. Keenum's backup, Cotton Turner, got a season ending injury a few plays later in relief during the same game Keenum was lost (at UCLA last yr). David Piland, a true frosh last year, played most of the season...and did quite well.

UH HC Kevin Sumlin is not too worried about his future QBs...they already have experience....and....he sure does not want to lose a backup in mop-up role. Also, Rice is a big rival for UH...and a win as such is big for UH
 
2011-10-28 10:41:28 AM
i.cdn.turner.com
 
2011-10-28 10:44:16 AM
Keenum has a chance at pro ball.....mainly because the QBs in the NFL are not very good overall. There is a huge dropoff between the starters and the backups...which should give Keenum hope
 
2011-10-28 11:21:05 AM
To all those who say they shouldn't run up the score, hate the game don't hate the player.
(Or however that goes)

Their only chance for a decent bowl game is to run the score up and hope the humans rank them higher, which is a HUGE part of the BCS formula.

Gosh I hate the NCAA...but I can't look away...
 
2011-10-28 11:34:28 AM
ghall3: Their only chance for a decent bowl game is to run the score up and hope the humans rank them higher, which is a HUGE part of the BCS formula.

They aren't going and rightfully so to a BCS game. There are like 40 teams that would be unbeaten with that schedule.
 
2011-10-28 11:36:14 AM
Jamdug!: lilplatinum: Jamdug!: Why don't guys like this ever pan out in the NFL? Different style of play or something?

Because playing against juggernauts like Rice, East Carolina, Marshall and Georgia State is different than playing in the NFL?

Fred Davis came out of Coe College and is currently the top rated running back in the NFL. You can coach players regardless of where they came from.

Don't be a snarky dick for no reason.


Unless he changed his name some time in the past, I think you mean Fred Jackson of the Bills.
 
2011-10-28 11:47:23 AM
Arkanaut: Jamdug!: lilplatinum: Jamdug!: Why don't guys like this ever pan out in the NFL? Different style of play or something?

Because playing against juggernauts like Rice, East Carolina, Marshall and Georgia State is different than playing in the NFL?

Fred Davis came out of Coe College and is currently the top rated running back in the NFL. You can coach players regardless of where they came from.

Don't be a snarky dick for no reason.

Unless he changed his name some time in the past, I think you mean Fred Jackson of the Bills.


Ha. Truth. Maybe he did...maybe he did...
 
2011-10-28 11:52:55 AM
UCFRoadWarrior: svenge: What I don't get is why Houston keep Keenum out there the entire game. Not because of the sportsmanship or injury angles, but because of NEXT FARKING YEAR. Case Keenum is a Senior, which means bye-bye after this season.

When Boise St. is beating the tar of some 100th-ranked school just as Houston did to Rice, they pull Kellen Moore (a Senior) out of the game somewhere in the 3rd quarter just to give their back-up and 3rd-string QBs some experience so they don't go 8-5 in 2012 when he's gone. Does Houston believe that they have no short/medium-term future without Keenum and just decided to roll with it?

Keenum missed most of last season due to injury, and UH played a few QBs in his place. Keenum's backup, Cotton Turner, got a season ending injury a few plays later in relief during the same game Keenum was lost (at UCLA last yr). David Piland, a true frosh last year, played most of the season...and did quite well.

UH HC Kevin Sumlin is not too worried about his future QBs...they already have experience....and....he sure does not want to lose a backup in mop-up role. Also, Rice is a big rival for UH...and a win as such is big for UH


Well, then. I wasn't exactly expecting a cogent answer. Waitaminute... am I still on Fark?

Still, there's no way Houston gets a BCS bid without Boise State losing at least one game. Since the BCS has to take only 1 non-AQ team [provided they're either Top-12 OR Top-16 AND better than the Big (L)east qualifier] it's just not in the cards. Houston would probably make at least Top-16 if undefeated, and the Big (L)east qualifier may well be out of the Top-25, but I don't see Boise State losing to make room.
 
2011-10-28 12:04:46 PM
svenge: he sure does not want to lose a backup in mop-up role

He would rather lose his starter in a mop up role. Sense, you make zero.
 
2011-10-28 01:05:19 PM
Arkanaut: Jamdug!: lilplatinum: Jamdug!: Why don't guys like this ever pan out in the NFL? Different style of play or something?

Because playing against juggernauts like Rice, East Carolina, Marshall and Georgia State is different than playing in the NFL?

Fred Davis came out of Coe College and is currently the top rated running back in the NFL. You can coach players regardless of where they came from.

Don't be a snarky dick for no reason.

Unless he changed his name some time in the past, I think you mean Fred Jackson of the Bills.


Damn. I was going to say that Fred Davis is
A) Not a running back
B) Not particularly good
C) Didn't go to Coe College

At least Jamdug! got his first name right, though.
 
2011-10-28 01:08:56 PM
srhp29: They aren't going and rightfully so to a BCS game. There are like 40 teams that would be unbeaten with that schedule.

Agreed. However if they want to have ANY kind of a chance, or even a chance at one of the top non-BCS games their only chance is to average 70/game and hope the voters move them into the top 10.

(Sort of what Michigan does except they don't score the points, just somehow get ranked for beating NO ONE...but I hate Michigan so I notice it)
 
2011-10-28 01:10:59 PM
ghall3: srhp29: They aren't going and rightfully so to a BCS game. There are like 40 teams that would be unbeaten with that schedule.

Agreed. However if they want to have ANY kind of a chance, or even a chance at one of the top non-BCS games their only chance is to average 70/game and hope the voters move them into the top 10.

(Sort of what Michigan does except they don't score the points, just somehow get ranked for beating NO ONE...but I hate Michigan so I notice it)


But...but...Denard says they won't melt down again this year.
 
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