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2011-10-28 01:13:53 AM
You go Labia
 
2011-10-28 01:26:07 AM
Obama is promoting promiscuity in the Muslim world!
 
2011-10-28 01:30:16 AM
Mentat: Obama is promoting promiscuity in the Muslim world!

Boo. Now less boys will have pre-stretched bungholes.
 
2011-10-28 01:38:29 AM
Mentat: Obama is promoting promiscuity in the Muslim world!

Taxbongo's single handedly destroyed a conservative and well-adjusted STD-free stable culture into a land of sex fiends. When will it stop?!!
 
2011-10-28 02:06:46 AM
In honor of the return of Beavis & Butthead: "sluts!"
/I Was Not Crying
 
2011-10-28 02:16:17 AM
Now we know the REAL reason all those macho boys were out there posturing with their guns and fatigues, getting minor wounds for the girls to coo over: "Ooo, Achmed, what a SEXY scar! Did you get that STORMING THE COMPOUND???"
 
2011-10-28 02:24:58 AM
manaf.me

"Let me play you the song of my people!"
 
2011-10-28 02:37:09 AM
skink: "Let me play you the song of my people!"

chicks don't dig pixels
 
2011-10-28 02:45:40 AM
skink: "Let me play you the song of my people!"

Skink?

Governor Tyree, I presume?
 
2011-10-28 02:48:34 AM
Fark Me To Tears: Governor Tyree, I presume?

I am wearing a checkered flag kilt, even as we speak.
 
2011-10-28 02:53:54 AM
Everybody wants the same thing don't they?
 
2011-10-28 03:07:08 AM
One of the sad rituals that pervades so-called modern societies is manhood rituals.

Back in olden days the only way for a post-adolescent boy to prove he was a man was to go into battle and survive (bonus points for killing an enemy).

Women were naturally complicit in this ritual and would preferably marry those "heros" who had passed the test - because if another war sprang up then their husbands would have a better chance of surviving and returning to support them.

If you read various US war diaries - Civil War, WWI, WW2 - you will often find a common personal motivation of proving manhood and returning to advance in society by getting a "good" wife.

My grandfather grew up on an (I guess) poor cotton farm in New Mexico and wanted to get the hell out so he joined ROTC. After serving in WWII initially as an officer and then rising in the ranks he was attractive enough to marry into a family middle high in the US steel industry.

Thanks to him I was comfortably brought up and matriculated at one of the top colleges which entered me into a top graduate school.

I know "tests of manhood" are still important in the undeveloped world (and in some sense the US is only recently developed) but I wish raw physical combat could be sublimated into bureaucratic combat as has been done since the days of Alexander the Great.
 
2011-10-28 03:32:25 AM
r1chard3: Everybody wants the same thing don't they?

Beer, cheese, mustard and grilled brats?
 
2011-10-28 04:19:07 AM
And provided that Libya doesn't get taken over by Islamic fundamentalists, which is what I'm worried about now, things for women there might be alright.
 
2011-10-28 04:23:43 AM
I'm 40 and single.. who do I have to shoot to change that? :P
 
2011-10-28 06:13:28 AM
Wasn't this the same reason why our educational system endorsed organised sports teams in school? So hopeless losers could get a chance to talk to the opposite sex (or same sex in some cases) by showcasing their "talent" out on the field as opposed to being humiliated in the "academic arena".

Playing tuba or debate team didn't count as a sports team though, did it?
 
2011-10-28 06:56:16 AM
skink: "Let me play you the song of my people!"

Wrote a song about it. Like to hear it? Here it goes....
 
2011-10-28 07:04:39 AM
clowncar on fire: Wasn't this the same reason why our educational system endorsed organised sports teams in school? So hopeless losers could get a chance to talk to the opposite sex (or same sex in some cases) by showcasing their "talent" out on the field as opposed to being humiliated in the "academic arena".

Playing tuba or debate team didn't count as a sports team though, did it?


Women wanted strong children so they looked for strong husbands, not bookworms. It is all part of that survival of the fittest thing. It is why you bloggers are single.
 
2011-10-28 07:48:38 AM
skink: [manaf.me image 300x219]

"Let me play you the song of my people!"



Holy crap, El Mariachi is real and he's toppling dictators.
 
2011-10-28 08:08:16 AM
HairBolus: One of the sad rituals that pervades so-called modern societies is manhood rituals.

Back in olden days the only way for a post-adolescent boy to prove he was a man was to go into battle and survive (bonus points for killing an enemy).

Women were naturally complicit in this ritual and would preferably marry those "heros" who had passed the test - because if another war sprang up then their husbands would have a better chance of surviving and returning to support them.

If you read various US war diaries - Civil War, WWI, WW2 - you will often find a common personal motivation of proving manhood and returning to advance in society by getting a "good" wife.

My grandfather grew up on an (I guess) poor cotton farm in New Mexico and wanted to get the hell out so he joined ROTC. After serving in WWII initially as an officer and then rising in the ranks he was attractive enough to marry into a family middle high in the US steel industry.

Thanks to him I was comfortably brought up and matriculated at one of the top colleges which entered me into a top graduate school.

I know "tests of manhood" are still important in the undeveloped world (and in some sense the US is only recently developed) but I wish raw physical combat could be sublimated into bureaucratic combat as has been done since the days of Alexander the Great.


Evolutionary advantage: Not achieved.
 
2011-10-28 08:18:04 AM
randomjsa: And provided that Libya doesn't get taken over by Islamic fundamentalists, which is what I'm worried about now, things for women there might be alright.

To be fair, while that's a cromulent threat, most of the fighters who lead this revolution probably wouldn't be too thrilled about it. It's the snakes forming in the new government you gotta watch out for.
 
2011-10-28 08:38:21 AM
Slowdog: skink: [manaf.me image 300x219]

"Let me play you the song of my people!"


Holy crap, El Mariachi is real and he's toppling dictators.


I thought it was El Kabong

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2011-10-28 08:47:03 AM
content8.flixster.com

"If I'm gonna get my balls blown off for a word, my word is poontang"
 
2011-10-28 09:06:39 AM
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you get the women.
 
2011-10-28 09:16:38 AM
Not to worry, it won't be long until the fundi's start stoning some of these people to death and this brief period of enlightenment will end.
 
2011-10-28 09:23:25 AM
EyeballKid: First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you get the women.

During which step do you get the slacks?
 
2011-10-28 09:26:53 AM
Fark Me To Tears: skink: "Let me play you the song of my people!"

Skink?

Governor Tyree, I presume?


Lost Tyree... Lost Hutch...

...came from behind...
 
2011-10-28 09:51:24 AM
Sweet. 'bout time. look closely, farkers - you will see people freed from REAL deprivation.

Now, if the basement dwellers can take out the evil republicans, maybe they too will see some live wimmin.
 
2011-10-28 09:52:16 AM
A camel and couscous feast? Ah, to be young and Libyan again.
 
2011-10-28 09:52:50 AM
Pro Zack: Sweet. 'bout time. look closely, farkers - you will see people freed from REAL deprivation.

Now, if the basement dwellers can take out the evil republicans, maybe they too will see some live wimmin.


You seem upset that people would be unhappy with the Republican Party.
 
2011-10-28 09:58:45 AM
skink: [manaf.me image 300x219]

"Let me play you the song of my people!"


Well I'll Be. Life imitates Macross Dynamite 7.
 
2011-10-28 10:00:20 AM
LasersHurt: Pro Zack: Sweet. 'bout time. look closely, farkers - you will see people freed from REAL deprivation.

Now, if the basement dwellers can take out the evil republicans, maybe they too will see some live wimmin.

You seem upset that people would be unhappy with the Republican Party.


Naah - I think it is asinine to compare the situation in the US with the arab spring.

I think it is great that the basement dwellers have come out into the sunlight and all, but if they had just stayed down their a few more generations, we could have had our first Morlocks.
 
2011-10-28 10:03:19 AM
Pro Zack: I think it is great that the basement dwellers have come out into the sunlight and all, but if they had just stayed down their a few more generations, we could have had our first Morlocks.

I give it two generations til the first CHUDs.
 
2011-10-28 10:13:46 AM
Pro Zack: Naah - I think it is asinine to compare the situation in the US with the arab spring.

You know most of those comparisons are just stupid navel gazing exercises by lazy journalists, right? And most of the articles on the subject take great pains to ask if there's a comparison to be made so they can conclude there's not much similarity, right?

It's not exactly new territory for our perpetually useless media.
 
2011-10-28 10:24:11 AM
Splinshints: It's not exactly new territory for our perpetually useless media.

agreed. Ok I blame the media.
 
2011-10-28 10:26:58 AM
Alphax: I'm 40 and single.. who do I have to shoot to change that? :P

Yourself...

//Just kidding
///The joke was there for the taking
 
2011-10-28 10:27:48 AM
EWreckedSean: Not to worry, it won't be long until the fundi's start stoning some of these people to death and this brief period of enlightenment will end.

You'd probably shiat on a birthday party by saying something like "I don't know why we're celebrating your slow march towards the grave."

You really need to start an antidepressant regimen.
 
2011-10-28 10:43:18 AM
Alphax: I'm 40 and single.. who do I have to shoot to change that? :P

1. Shoot Reagan's grave
2. Impress Jodie Foster
 
2011-10-28 10:48:11 AM
i41.tinypic.com

Awwwww yeah.
 
2011-10-28 10:50:54 AM
Tell them you brought freedom. Biatches love freedom.

/dnrtfa
 
2011-10-28 10:55:32 AM
Its gonna be funny when they start getting oppressed again in a few months.
 
2011-10-28 11:45:56 AM
Anyone else see a Broadway musical in this?
 
2011-10-28 11:48:52 AM
Interesting article, but I was more interested in a couple of the comments.
Does anyone know if there is truth to any of this? The price of gas is easy enough to believe, but some of the others are fairly incredible.

RE: young men in libya

I completely agree with you miramre..this article is full bs

1. There is no electricity bill in... Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.

2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.

3. Home considered a human right in Libya - Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi's father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.

4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000 ) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.

5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.

6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick- start their farms - all for free.

7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it - not only free but they get US $2, 300/mth accommodation and car allowance.

8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price.

9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0. 14 per liter.

10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion - now frozen globally.

11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.

12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.

13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US $5,000

14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15

15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree

16. Gaddafi carried out the world's largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.
 
2011-10-28 01:53:20 PM
quantum_csc: Interesting article, but I was more interested in a couple of the comments.
Does anyone know if there is truth to any of this? The price of gas is easy enough to believe, but some of the others are fairly incredible.

RE: young men in libya

I completely agree with you miramre..this article is full bs

1. There is no electricity bill in... Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.

2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.

3. Home considered a human right in Libya - Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi's father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.

4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000 ) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.

5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.

6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick- start their farms - all for free.

7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it - not only free but they get US $2, 300/mth accommodation and car allowance.

8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price.

9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0. 14 per liter.

10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion - now frozen globally.

11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.

12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.

13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US $5,000

14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15

15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree

16. Gaddafi carried out the world's largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.


I don't know if any of that is true but, a couple of weeks ago I met a Libyan in Second Life. He said that his entire family was killed by Qaddafi. So even if all that is true, it's not worth it.
 
2011-10-28 07:04:38 PM
quantum_csc: Interesting article, but I was more interested in a couple of the comments.
Does anyone know if there is truth to any of this? The price of gas is easy enough to believe, but some of the others are fairly incredible.

RE: young men in libya

(snip)


FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:

Yeah, that's the right-wing chain mail going around. It's not (entirely) wrong; I'm just not sure what the message is- evil dictators are good? Killing them is bad?

You could make a similar list about Iraq under Saddam.
 
2011-10-29 08:29:11 AM
This a repeat of most every war in history.
 
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