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2011-10-27 08:53:23 PM
www.minilps.net

/ were they learning to blow ?
 
2011-10-27 09:13:47 PM
Well blow me down
 
2011-10-27 10:06:27 PM
Private university? Tough shiat, Muslim dudes.
 
2011-10-27 10:24:06 PM
veedeevadeevoodee: / were they learning to blow ?

I usually find you awful, but that is a wonderful reference.
 
2011-10-27 11:08:26 PM
It's a private Catholic university. If the symbols of the Catholic religion (crucifixes, statues of saints, the Sacred Heart, etc.) offend you or make it difficult for you to practice your faith, maybe you should attend a public university instead.
 
2011-10-27 11:44:38 PM
veedeevadeevoodee: [www.minilps.net image 600x599]

/ were they learning to blow ?


*golfclap*

/at the CYO
 
2011-10-27 11:44:49 PM
veedeevadeevoodee: [www.minilps.net image 600x599]

/ were they learning to blow ?


Yes, but only where the Pampers is
 
2011-10-27 11:51:02 PM
Why would Muslims want to attend a Catholic university? Unless... they're trying to fit in with REAL Americans so they can be more effective terrorists!

Next up: vegan slaughterhouse workers complain about things being slaughtered at their workplace.
 
2011-10-27 11:52:38 PM
kronicfeld: a wonderful reference

If you found it to be a wonderful reference, there was probably no need for the back of the hand.
 
2011-10-27 11:55:10 PM
ArkAngel: veedeevadeevoodee: [www.minilps.net image 600x599]

/ were they learning to blow ?

Yes, but only where the Pampers is



i39.tinypic.com
 
2011-10-27 11:57:23 PM
Just looked up the lawyer who brought the suit.

John F. Banzhaf III (new window)

Love him or hate him, this guy is one of the main reasons (along with Ralph Nader) that you can't smoke on airplanes anymore.
 
2011-10-28 12:46:16 AM
Bathia_Mapes: It's a private Catholic university. If the symbols of the Catholic religion (crucifixes, statues of saints, the Sacred Heart, etc.) offend you or make it difficult for you to practice your faith, maybe you should attend a public university instead.

Yeah, pretty much. If you go to a private, Catholic university, you should pretty much expect that there will be lots of Catholic things there and not so much for any other religion. As a very, very not religious person who supports freedom of religion, separation of church and state and all that, I don't think the Muslim students have much of an argument here.
 
2011-10-28 12:55:12 AM
WorldCitizen: Bathia_Mapes: It's a private Catholic university. If the symbols of the Catholic religion (crucifixes, statues of saints, the Sacred Heart, etc.) offend you or make it difficult for you to practice your faith, maybe you should attend a public university instead.

Yeah, pretty much. If you go to a private, Catholic university, you should pretty much expect that there will be lots of Catholic things there and not so much for any other religion. As a very, very not religious person who supports freedom of religion, separation of church and state and all that, I don't think the Muslim students have much of an argument here.


They should count themselves fortunate that they didn't enroll in either Bob Jones University or Liberty University (founded by Jerry Falwell), if either one of them would even consider admitting Muslim students in the first place.
 
2011-10-28 01:00:33 AM
This is a joke, right? They have no more right to expect that they will be catered to than I would to expect that I could get drunk in downtown Mecca. As if Muslims don't have enough trouble in this country, now they're finding ways to make themselves look bad and simultaneously confirm the biases of people who already distrust them.

If this actually goes to court it will be dismissed in about 5 seconds. The longest thing in that hearing will be the judge smacking the attorney's dick for wasting his time on patent nonsense.
 
2011-10-28 01:12:36 AM
Muslims attention whoring because they feel they are discriminated against in an institution that's designed for people of a different faith?

fark.
 
2011-10-28 01:32:00 AM
WorldCitizen: I don't think the Muslim students have much of an argument here.

I'd agree. Contrariwise, they apparently have a better than par lawyer.

Nohow... while the school is open to other faiths, it's privately established as Catholic. The most the litigants could accomplish with a ruling is keep the school from getting any iota of Federal funding (which may already be the case) and any students from getting Federally backed student loans or Pell grants... if the court was wildly left of the Warren Court era.

It isn't. And six of the nine current SCOTUS justices are Catholic. Come to that, I really don't think the three Jews will find the idea thrilling either.

I think the kook who keeps trying to sue "In God We Trust" off the US currency and "Under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance has a better chance at making his way all the way through the appeals process.
 
2011-10-28 04:04:20 AM
They may use the argument that since they were admitted in the first place, the school is under obligation to make a reasonable accommodation for them. I also wonder wtf they're doing there...learning about Catholicism? Free tuition?

Also, I wouldn't worry about the school's chances in a court of law - with the Church behind them, they can afford to throw the best lawyers at this for years...it's usually the best financed client who wins.
 
2011-10-28 04:05:38 AM
OK. Untwist your panties and skim the press release:*


"In a formal legal complaint at the Office of Human Rights, it is charged that Wuerl, Chancellor of the university, aided and abetted discrimination at CUA against Muslim students by denying them the same equal access to its facilities and services enjoyed by other student groups, including Jewish ones, solely on the basis of their religion.

"On another ground, the "complaint also charges that eliminating all mixed-gender dormitories on campus, and henceforth forcing students who live on campus to reside in single-sex segregated residences, constitutes discrimination on the basis of sex against female students since students will be assigned to dormitories solely on the basis of their sex, and many will be denied their residence of choice solely because of, and on the basis of, their sex."

"He notes further that the denial of recognition to a Muslim student group could hardly be based upon fundamental Catholic doctrine since Georgetown University not only has such a Muslim student group, but also provides its Muslim students with a separate prayer room and even a Muslim chaplain. Similarly, since CUA has had mixed-gender dormitories for about a quarter of a century, many other Catholic universities continue to provide students the choice of unsegregated campus housing, and Garvey failed to cite any religious reasons whatsoever for this recent decision to segregate CUA's dorms, it is very likely that Garvey and Wuerl will also be found guilty of discriminating illegally on the basis of sex, argues Banzhaf."

Personally, unless this is viewed as a negotiating strategy, I think it was a mistake to link these claims: the first shows inconsistency within Catholic University and is indefensible; the second shows a decision that has its roots in doctrine. Catholic University can argue that their interpretation is more faithful than that of Georgetown, and they provide a pure Catholicism, in the way that St. John's College in Annapolis and Santa Fe provides a pure humanist interpretation. Finally, the inept opening paragraphs of the press release bring up the unrelated child abuse cases, which is the sign of a weak and grasping argument.

* there's a PDF link in the article, and yes, 'untwist your panties' is used ironically.

/it's Fox News, people. Jesus. Did you really expect them not to twist this?
 
2011-10-28 05:05:06 AM
abb3w: WorldCitizen: I don't think the Muslim students have much of an argument here.

I'd agree. Contrariwise, they apparently have a better than par lawyer.

Nohow... while the school is open to other faiths, it's privately established as Catholic. The most the litigants could accomplish with a ruling is keep the school from getting any iota of Federal funding (which may already be the case) and any students from getting Federally backed student loans or Pell grants... if the court was wildly left of the Warren Court era.

It isn't. And six of the nine current SCOTUS justices are Catholic. Come to that, I really don't think the three Jews will find the idea thrilling either.

I think the kook who keeps trying to sue "In God We Trust" off the US currency and "Under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance has a better chance at making his way all the way through the appeals process.


I think a far bigger thing isn't that it would get through the legislation, but that the university would cave under the pressure and expense of litigation for so many years. I'm fairly certain when such suits are threatened that's the real end goal of the majority of them.
 
2011-10-28 06:57:11 AM
Wait until they see Brandeis and Yeshiva.
 
2011-10-28 07:02:11 AM
I think subby is missing a few words in his/her headline. How does this stuff even get approved if no one even bothers to read it before greenlighting it?
 
2011-10-28 07:03:55 AM
So you're telling me the general Muslim population is as f*cking stupid as the general US population? The general catholic population?

Good to know.

/call me when we start killing people
 
2011-10-28 07:05:36 AM
Uncle Wiggly: OK. Untwist your panties and skim the press release:*


Private University

If you are paying to go somewhere, and disagree with the policies that the place in question follows, then STOP PAYING THEM, and go somewhere else.
 
2011-10-28 07:06:00 AM
Fox news, twisting the facts since ( insert date here).
 
2011-10-28 07:09:30 AM
What good did electing a muslim president do? What a wasted vote!
 
2011-10-28 07:12:41 AM
Religion is farking retarded.
 
2011-10-28 07:13:09 AM
Mattyb710: Private University

If you are paying to go somewhere, and disagree with the policies that the place in question follows, then STOP PAYING THEM, and go somewhere else.


Private businesses don't get to practice religious discrimination, sry.
 
2011-10-28 07:14:08 AM
img.photobucket.com

/In other news I went to a madrassa in Pakistan and when I told them there was waaaaaaaaaaaay too much Muslim stuff around and asked for a room with crosses where I could worship the only true God they cut off my head.
 
2011-10-28 07:15:55 AM
It's like complaining that there are too many bare titties in a strip joint ...
 
2011-10-28 07:16:41 AM
While the school does receive some federal money for sure (loans, grants, research, etc.) that doesn't mean they have to cover up the Jesus or provide accommodations for other religions. Not to mention, Jesus is not offensive to Muslims -- he's (a distant) #2 in Islam, no?
 
2011-10-28 07:17:11 AM
Headline:

Do Crosses at Catholic University Violate "Human Rights" of Muslims?

No.

Next question.
 
2011-10-28 07:18:57 AM
Do Crosses at Catholic University Violate "Human Rights" of Muslims?
No but the university should make sure they aren't really just vampires trying to play the Muslim card.
 
2011-10-28 07:19:55 AM
Sgt. Pepper: Mattyb710: Private University

If you are paying to go somewhere, and disagree with the policies that the place in question follows, then STOP PAYING THEM, and go somewhere else.

Private businesses don't get to practice religious discrimination, sry.


How exactly are they discriminating? I didn't see anything in the article so maybe you have some insider info?
 
2011-10-28 07:20:37 AM
Organic Chemistry: I think subby is missing a few words in his/her headline. How does this stuff even get approved if no one even bothers to read it before greenlighting it?

So the Muslims are symbols of Christianity. What are they surrounded by though?
 
2011-10-28 07:21:06 AM
Xenomech: What good did electing a muslim president do? What a wasted vote!

... and we have a winner!
 
2011-10-28 07:21:37 AM
Walker: [img.photobucket.com image 450x352]

/In other news I went to a madrassa in Pakistan and when I told them there was waaaaaaaaaaaay too much Muslim stuff around and asked for a room with crosses where I could worship the only true God they cut off my head.


If you were paying for the right to stay at the madrassa, and if the madrassa were in the USA, which is where the alleged poor behaviour took place and which has laws legislating against discrimination based upon religion, then your post would make sense.

As it is, it's just a ridiculous attempt to conflate two distinct, unrelated groups of people.

/Or a successful troll. I'm not sure which. If a troll, you get a 9.4
 
2011-10-28 07:22:04 AM
ArkAngel:
veedeevadeevoodee: [www.minilps.net image 600x599]

/ were they learning to blow ?

Yes, but only where the Pampers is

Jeremy Piven movie reference - ten yards, and loss of down.
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Speaking of learning to blow...
 
2011-10-28 07:25:22 AM
U MADrassa?
 
2011-10-28 07:26:29 AM
Organic Chemistry: I think subby is missing a few words in his/her headline. How does this stuff even get approved if no one even bothers to read it before greenlighting it?

Are you sure you understand how FARK works?

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-10-28 07:28:01 AM
Relatively Obscure: Private university? Tough shiat, Muslim dudes.

Well said.
 
2011-10-28 07:30:31 AM
well, story distorting things aside, ever see catholic images? hell they got bloody corpses hanging up all over the damn place, and supposedly they like this guy.
 
2011-10-28 07:31:12 AM
this just reeks of being fake. if anyone can find official papers saying otherwise, i say its a planted story to make fundies mad at sandies
 
2011-10-28 07:31:43 AM
bakarocket: Walker: [img.photobucket.com image 450x352]

/In other news I went to a madrassa in Pakistan and when I told them there was waaaaaaaaaaaay too much Muslim stuff around and asked for a room with crosses where I could worship the only true God they cut off my head.

If you were paying for the right to stay at the madrassa, and if the madrassa were in the USA, which is where the alleged poor behaviour took place and which has laws legislating against discrimination based upon religion, then your post would make sense.

As it is, it's just a ridiculous attempt to conflate two distinct, unrelated groups of people.

/Or a successful troll. I'm not sure which. If a troll, you get a 9.4


Then I'm a troll. Woohoo!
 
2011-10-28 07:33:09 AM
My first reaction was to laugh at them, but on reading deeper, they kinda have a point. It wouldnt be THAT hard to set up a an area devoid of christian symbols.

Then again, it wouldnt be that hard to pray to christ in front of a statue of buddah, either, so im torn.


/if this university is like MOST small universities, they probably actively recruited them in for diversity's sake. if so, they are 100 percent wrong for not providing this accomodation
 
2011-10-28 07:39:07 AM
Sounds like the camel's nose under the tent.
 
2011-10-28 07:40:04 AM
Dumbass Catholic University, Muslims...or Protestants...or atheists attend ?
 
2011-10-28 07:43:44 AM
Remember boys and girls... this is FAUX NEWS we are talking about.

Take it with a grain of salt. It might just be complete BS.
 
2011-10-28 07:44:03 AM
Walker: bakarocket: Walker: [img.photobucket.com image 450x352]

/In other news I went to a madrassa in Pakistan and when I told them there was waaaaaaaaaaaay too much Muslim stuff around and asked for a room with crosses where I could worship the only true God they cut off my head.

If you were paying for the right to stay at the madrassa, and if the madrassa were in the USA, which is where the alleged poor behaviour took place and which has laws legislating against discrimination based upon religion, then your post would make sense.

As it is, it's just a ridiculous attempt to conflate two distinct, unrelated groups of people.

/Or a successful troll. I'm not sure which. If a troll, you get a 9.4

Then I'm a troll. Woohoo!


Damn it. This is why I shouldn't be allowed to post.
 
2011-10-28 07:45:18 AM
Relatively Obscure: Private university? Tough shiat, Muslim dudes.

This.
 
2011-10-28 07:45:43 AM
Weidermeijer: Remember boys and girls... this is FAUX NEWS we are talking about.

Take it with a grain of salt. It might just be complete BS.


Yeah, this just sounds like Fox News trying to drum up the "War on Christianity" again.
 
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