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(Marketwatch) Obvious Worker fraud costs small businesses big bucks. So you're all fired   (marketwatch.com) divider line 15
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2011-10-27 12:24:33 PM
However, while a business cannot control its employees' morals or motivations, even the smallest companies with one or two employees can take some simple steps to reduce their risks without breaking the bank,...


Stop legislating morality!
 
2011-10-27 12:31:05 PM
I make and report my own hours, so I'm getting a kick out of TFA.
 
2011-10-27 12:48:21 PM
I like how the examples they give are a Treasurer, Manager, and VP. Make of that what you will.
 
2011-10-27 12:56:02 PM
I worked in a place where a manager lowballed all the numbers for a few clients in exchange for kickbacks. He wanted all the time for those jobs to be placed on other jobs. So instead of four hours of welding required, he'd put down 2, and he'd want you to write 2 on the job card and 2 on something else.

I told him to go fark himself and he tried to kill me. Then he fought my unemployment.
 
2011-10-27 01:03:02 PM
Goimir: I worked in a place where a manager lowballed all the numbers for a few clients in exchange for kickbacks. He wanted all the time for those jobs to be placed on other jobs. So instead of four hours of welding required, he'd put down 2, and he'd want you to write 2 on the job card and 2 on something else.

I told him to go fark himself and he tried to kill me. Then he fought my unemployment.


You purposefully didn't let a _job creator_ kill you? That's class warfare. You should be arrested for terrorism.
 
2011-10-27 01:09:08 PM
My boss uses the company gas card for his own personal car. $3000 later the driver pretty much have to report milage to him because his boss found out. sleezeball
 
2011-10-27 02:04:58 PM
groppet: My boss uses the company gas card for his own personal car. $3000 later the driver pretty much have to report milage to him because his boss found out. sleezeball

Wait so the line drivers-who were not skimming the gas card-have to report their milage to the exact same boss that was skimming, because the boss' boss found out?

...I was about to say that makes no sense, then I remembered I've seen worse...
I used to work in a job that had extensive travel. They issued us a company AMEX card. Some twits used the card for personal items, or laid down massively overpriced meals as business expenses (when they were NOT executive level or entertaining clients, just their own traveling meals). All cards revoked! We still want you to do all this business travel, but now you have to use your own funds and apply for reimbursement!
 
2011-10-27 04:29:38 PM
You can't fire me, subby. I quit!
 
2011-10-27 05:48:00 PM
Ishidan: groppet: My boss uses the company gas card for his own personal car. $3000 later the driver pretty much have to report milage to him because his boss found out. sleezeball

Wait so the line drivers-who were not skimming the gas card-have to report their milage to the exact same boss that was skimming, because the boss' boss found out?

...I was about to say that makes no sense, then I remembered I've seen worse...
I used to work in a job that had extensive travel. They issued us a company AMEX card. Some twits used the card for personal items, or laid down massively overpriced meals as business expenses (when they were NOT executive level or entertaining clients, just their own traveling meals). All cards revoked! We still want you to do all this business travel, but now you have to use your own funds and apply for reimbursement!


Yes they have to report it to him now which makes us all laugh to no end.

The cards were always in the bosses desk. So for a driver to use one he would have to go in get it from the boss. The part that always got me is at the gas station the driver has to put in his/her worker id number and the milage of the vehicle he was using anyways. For the life of me I cant see how corporate didnt figure out it was the boss doing this. Im sure if I used a drop of company gas Id be cuffed and shipped off to GITMO
 
2011-10-27 07:27:41 PM
SphericalTime: You purposefully didn't let a _job creator_ kill you? That's class warfare. You should be arrested for terrorism.

OSHA investigated and found a list of violations four pages long in regards to how the system was constructed operated, and the company received a $0 fine.

That's not a typo. They got fined zero dollars.
 
2011-10-27 08:33:24 PM
groppet: Im sure if I used a drop of company gas Id be cuffed and shipped off to GITMO

That's how it works. The lower you are on the totem, the less damage you can actually do, even with the intent, is inversely proportional to the shiatstorm you'll endure if anything is amiss.

CSB:
Used to work for a Walgreen's in a bad part of town. Shoplifting was so bad, we EXPECTED to lose at least $200-$400 dollars every day. But my god, if they weren't sticklers for making employees document every purchase and question any discrepancy with the fervor and methods of the Spanish Inquisition. Got the chewing out of a lifetime by the district manager once. Why? I'd bought a pack of BC headache powder to keep in my locker. You'd get a sticker with the purchase number on it, but the BC box is wrapped in plastic. So I opened it, threw away my sticker with the wrapper, and had to try and explain to the district manager I was not trying to cheat the company out of $6.00 worth of aspirin, probably while some methheads were getting away with $80 worth of merchandise.

Second CSB:
Used to work for a Moe's Southwest Grill. All of our foods costs where in line, except cheese. Not the hot nacho cheese, just the shredded stuff. We loved us some cheese, and so did customers. The district manager accused the employees of stealing the cheese. My GM, one of the few genuinely good GM's I had the pleasure of meeting in my time in the retail/food service industry, balked and asked what he thought we were doing with a couple of pounds worth of shredded cheese. His answer? We were using it to make nachos at home. My GM rightly pointed out that we all worked in a faux-Mexican joint, and can have free nachos every time we work a shift, and that the DM was a dumbass for even suggesting it. Chewing-out averted, but really, how the hell do you counter such a stupid accusation?
 
2011-10-27 10:39:55 PM
Sergeant Grumbles: groppet: Im sure if I used a drop of company gas Id be cuffed and shipped off to GITMO

That's how it works. The lower you are on the totem, the less damage you can actually do, even with the intent, is inversely proportional to the shiatstorm you'll endure if anything is amiss.

CSB:
Used to work for a Walgreen's in a bad part of town. Shoplifting was so bad, we EXPECTED to lose at least $200-$400 dollars every day. But my god, if they weren't sticklers for making employees document every purchase and question any discrepancy with the fervor and methods of the Spanish Inquisition. Got the chewing out of a lifetime by the district manager once. Why? I'd bought a pack of BC headache powder to keep in my locker. You'd get a sticker with the purchase number on it, but the BC box is wrapped in plastic. So I opened it, threw away my sticker with the wrapper, and had to try and explain to the district manager I was not trying to cheat the company out of $6.00 worth of aspirin, probably while some methheads were getting away with $80 worth of merchandise.

Second CSB:
Used to work for a Moe's Southwest Grill. All of our foods costs where in line, except cheese. Not the hot nacho cheese, just the shredded stuff. We loved us some cheese, and so did customers. The district manager accused the employees of stealing the cheese. My GM, one of the few genuinely good GM's I had the pleasure of meeting in my time in the retail/food service industry, balked and asked what he thought we were doing with a couple of pounds worth of shredded cheese. His answer? We were using it to make nachos at home. My GM rightly pointed out that we all worked in a faux-Mexican joint, and can have free nachos every time we work a shift, and that the DM was a dumbass for even suggesting it. Chewing-out averted, but really, how the hell do you counter such a stupid accusation?


Question: am I the only customer annoyed by the "policy" of greeting every customer with a "welcome to Moe's" in unison by every employee within view of the door? I'm shy enough that that pretty much guaranteed I wouldn't be back.
 
2011-10-28 03:08:55 AM
FTABusinesses lose an estimated $2.9 trillion globally, or about 5% of annual revenue for a typical company, to fraud committed by their own workers, according to a 2010 report by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, or ACFE.

I'm suspect fraud in those numbers. This reads as a press release by a professional organization looking to use fear and a bad market to boost business.
 
2011-10-28 11:20:18 AM
In my experience typically the measures business take to combat theft and fraud by employees are exactly the wrong ones. They lock all the pens and paper-clips and black CD-Rs in a closet to safe a few cents and show their employees that they aren't trusted while management plays fast and loose with sums many orders of magnitude higher that the total worth of all office supplies the company bought in the last decade. Bringing in outside auditors might nab a few bad seeds, but unless things go really bad they will typically cost the company more than they save it.

The best way to combat this sort of thing, is to show the employees that they are appreciated and create a working environment where they would feel ashamed of stealing or defrauding their boss. Make controls and security appropriate to the worth of the thing being secured.
 
2011-10-30 05:11:55 PM
JohnAnnArbor: Question: am I the only customer annoyed by the "policy" of greeting every customer with a "welcome to Moe's" in unison by every employee within view of the door? I'm shy enough that that pretty much guaranteed I wouldn't be back.

The jack-happy feel-good execs don't want your farking business, They think that fake hospitality is good, you are bad.
 
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