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2011-10-27 09:35:13 AM
Alien abduction is bullshiat, what a shock. Next you'll be telling me the Loch Ness Monster and the female orgasm aren't real either.
 
2011-10-27 09:48:09 AM
Reports of extraterrestrials coming to our planet to abduct and experiment on people could just created in the dreams of people with vivid imaginations.

You don't say.

Obvious tag was abducted?
 
2011-10-27 09:48:15 AM
These aliens are coming to help you. It's not an anal probe, they're unblocking your colon.

/cheese
 
2011-10-27 09:48:44 AM
transcendentalfloss.com
 
2011-10-27 09:49:31 AM
Well of course. Everyone likes cheese. Aliens like to probe for farts. The aliens are after cheese scented farts. It all is starting to make sense.
 
2011-10-27 09:52:36 AM
I've got fontina, gruyere, Gorgonzola, parmesean (not the Kraft shiat), and some Wisconsin smoked cheddar in my fridge. Should I start prepping myself for the anal probe?
 
2011-10-27 09:52:38 AM
In high school I had a very disturbing episode of sleep paralysis. I woke up and a creature was on me, holding me down... it was Joe Camel (of the cigarette ads), and he said "Hello there."

I am glad that it was such a ludicrous thing that I hallucinated, so I could easily discount it once I recovered. If my brain decided to see an alien or a ghost, I probably would have been a believer. And yeah, I realize that cartoon cigarette spokescamels assaulting people in their sleep is just as likely as the spirits of the dead doing it.
 
2011-10-27 09:58:11 AM
I think the most likely explanation is the hypnagogic dreams (the ones where you're half-asleep) and sleep paralysis. I've had both. I dreamt I was in my room for the former (yeah, I know, fascinating). Sleep paralysis is farking scary. And it usually happens after nightmares. It perfectly matches up with the stories of being stuck in tractor beams and such. I've also had dreams where I thought my parents were calling me down for breakfast (another hypnagogic dream).
They're not crazy, they're normal. It's just that they were dreaming and it felt so real.
 
2011-10-27 09:58:32 AM
Why do you think there are all those cattle mutilations? Aliens are trying to get to the source of cheese.
 
2011-10-27 09:59:48 AM
I'd like to see them repeat the experiment using religious imagery. Maybe then we'd have an explanation for this whole zombie/ghost rapist/overseer in the sky thing.
 
2011-10-27 10:02:32 AM
Quickmatch: I'd like to see them repeat the experiment using religious imagery. Maybe then we'd have an explanation for this whole zombie/ghost rapist/overseer in the sky thing.

At the least, it'd be good for some laughs.
 
2011-10-27 10:03:22 AM
Also...this is the best snacking cheese in the world IMHO:

www.mandifoods.com
 
2011-10-27 10:05:00 AM
And shut that bloody bazouki up...
 
2011-10-27 10:05:42 AM
i801.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-27 10:06:42 AM
Quickmatch: I'd like to see them repeat the experiment using religious imagery. Maybe then we'd have an explanation for this whole zombie/ghost rapist/overseer in the sky thing.

Same thing. The same experiences attributed to aliens in the 20th and 21st centuries were blamed on witches and daemons before. Abduction, possession, cattle mutilation, probing and impregnation to produce half human/half other hybrids.
 
2011-10-27 10:09:33 AM
So that's why!
The more you know...
 
2011-10-27 10:11:25 AM
'Alien contact Religious belief is not indicative of the existence of otherworldly civilizationsomnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient space wraiths, but rather of a poorly studied state of consciousness that people fall into inadvertently.'

FTA, FTFY
 
2011-10-27 10:14:24 AM
HailRobonia: In high school I had a very disturbing episode of sleep paralysis. I woke up and a creature was on me, holding me down... it was Joe Camel (of the cigarette ads), and he said "Hello there."

You might have been sexually assaulted by aliens because everyone knows that Joe Camel looks like a cock.
 
2011-10-27 10:16:39 AM
Tyrone Slothrop: Why do you think there are all those cattle mutilations? Aliens are trying to get to the source of cheese.

They usually cut out their anuses. I would like to think that is not the source of cheese.
 
2011-10-27 10:21:06 AM
Just stop in for the Wallace & Gromit post......leaving happy.
 
2011-10-27 10:24:29 AM
MMmmmmm, Limburger.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
Pav
2011-10-27 10:33:59 AM
A study proving people can be hypnotized and induced to dream about something specific. How fascinating. I am not a staunch believer either way but I can tell you that this study doesn't do a damn thing to prove or disprove the existence of aliens.
 
2011-10-27 10:39:58 AM
I was thinking illegal aliens. Started thinking about Mexico City styled kidnappings happening in the US and ... not-cho cheese and couldn't make it a step further
 
2011-10-27 10:41:12 AM
Ok i guess i just skimmed over the article, but wheres the cheese referenced in terms of the experiment?
 
2011-10-27 10:41:53 AM
Came for Giorgios. Leaving satisfied.
 
2011-10-27 10:43:07 AM
damn. guess they are coming for me. i eat alot of cheese.
 
2011-10-27 10:44:15 AM
ukexpat: And shut that bloody bazouki up...

This is what I came for.


/out of chedder
 
2011-10-27 10:44:41 AM
Aliens have been attributed to a bit of cheese for generations. Take for example, this famous "alien" (in the folkloric sense of the word, which includes all "supernatural" and "other-worldly" creatures:

The cellar-door flew open with a booming sound, and then he heard the noise much louder, on the floors below; then coming up the stairs; then coming straight towards his door.

``It's humbug still!'' said Scrooge. ``I won't believe it.''

His colour changed though, when, without a pause, it came on through the heavy door, and passed into the room before his eyes. Upon its coming in, the dying flame leaped up, as though it cried, ``I know him! Marley's Ghost!'' and fell again.

The same face: the very same. Marley in his pigtail, usual waistcoat, tights, and boots; the tassels on the latter bristling, like his pigtail, and his coat-skirts, and the hair upon his head. The chain he drew was clasped about his middle. It was long, and wound about him like a tail; and it was made (for Scrooge observed it closely) of cash-boxes, keys, padlocks, ledgers, deeds, and heavy purses wrought in steel. His body was transparent; so that Scrooge, observing him, and looking through his waistcoat, could see the two buttons on his coat behind.

Scrooge had often heard it said that Marley had no bowels, but he had never believed it until now.

No, nor did he believe it even now. Though he looked the phantom through and through, and saw it standing before him; though he felt the chilling influence of its death-cold eyes; and marked the very texture of the folded kerchief bound about its head and chin, which wrapper he had not observed before; he was still incredulous, and fought against his senses.

``How now!'' said Scrooge, caustic and cold as ever. ``What do you want with me?''

``Much!'' -- Marley's voice, no doubt about it.

``Who are you?''

``Ask me who I was.''

``Who were you then.'' said Scrooge, raising his voice. ``You're particular, for a shade.'' He was going to say ``to a shade,'' but substituted this, as more appropriate.

``In life I was your partner, Jacob Marley.''

``Can you -- can you sit down?'' asked Scrooge, looking doubtfully at him.

``I can.''

``Do it, then.''

Scrooge asked the question, because he didn't know whether a ghost so transparent might find himself in a condition to take a chair; and felt that in the event of its being impossible, it might involve the necessity of an embarrassing explanation. But the ghost sat down on the opposite side of the fireplace, as if he were quite used to it.

``You don't believe in me,'' observed the Ghost.

``I don't,'' said Scrooge.

``What evidence would you have of my reality beyond that of your senses?''

``I don't know,'' said Scrooge.

``Why do you doubt your senses?''

``Because,'' said Scrooge, ``a little thing affects them. A slight disorder of the stomach makes them cheats. You may be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of an underdone potato. There's more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are!''


Scrooge was not much in the habit of cracking jokes, nor did he feel, in his heart, by any means waggish then. The truth is, that he tried to be smart, as a means of distracting his own attention, and keeping down his terror; for the spectre's voice disturbed the very marrow in his bones.

To sit, staring at those fixed, glazed eyes, in silence for a moment, would play, Scrooge felt, the very deuce with him. There was something very awful, too, in the spectre's being provided with an infernal atmosphere of its own. Scrooge could not feel it himself, but this was clearly the case; for though the Ghost sat perfectly motionless, its hair, and skirts, and tassels, were still agitated as by the hot vapour from an oven.

``You see this toothpick?'' said Scrooge, returning quickly to the charge, for the reason just assigned; and wishing, though it were only for a second, to divert the vision's stony gaze from himself.

``I do,'' replied the Ghost.

``You are not looking at it,'' said Scrooge.

``But I see it,'' said the Ghost, ``notwithstanding.''

``Well!'' returned Scrooge, ``I have but to swallow this, and be for the rest of my days persecuted by a legion of goblins, all of my own creation. Humbug, I tell you; humbug!''
(My emphasis)
 
2011-10-27 10:53:00 AM
Gouda headline, +1.
 
2011-10-27 10:53:18 AM
Pav: I am not a staunch believer either way but I can tell you that this study doesn't do a damn thing to prove or disprove the existence of aliens.

That's just kind of a broad statement. There are more star systems...not just planets but star systems out there than we can wrap our heads around. Of course there's life somewhere else. But did they break the laws of physics as we know them to travel faster than light? Okay, sure, we don't know everything. Did they make it all the way here to us? A little less probable but why not. Do they care enough about us to beam us up and probe us? Getting a little less likely. Occum's Razer has to come in at some point and assume that these people are hallucinating.
 
2011-10-27 10:54:38 AM
"Apparently, aliens are more likely to abduct people who eat steal a lot of cheese"

FTFsubby.

/It's your conscience telling you that you've stolen too much.
 
2011-10-27 10:55:01 AM
Blessed are the cheese eaters.
 
2011-10-27 11:10:19 AM
I want to burn your bodies to a crisp to destroy the pollution, since even your blood carries in it the devil's smegma. The stench of you - of all of you - permeates the waking world, making me want to hide behind a blanket of incense. How can you not see you are addicted? I prefer cocaine junkies to cheese addicts, since cocaine junkies are thin. It is one of the most sickening aspects of the psychiatric/Scientologist conspiracy that, to maintain their monopoly on drugs, they deny the obvious fact that the drugs used to quiet colicky foals become potentized by the ancient process, as surely as shrooms or hashish. Instead, you not only suck it down multiple times a day, but feed it to your children, and when they refuse, slip it into their food, even if you'll let them leave the spinach untouched. No, I want the streets to run black with your ashes, not red with your blood, and I hope the aliens carry crematoriums, to destroy every hint of the menace that Hell has unleashed.
 
2011-10-27 11:12:54 AM
European UFOlogists tend to treat UFO phenomena, including abductions from a folklore perspective, as a psychological, social and cultural phenomenon. The French UFOlogist who served as the model for one of the characters in Close Encounters of the Third Kind is of this school. They make many valid points about the resemblance of ghost and witch and fairy lore to modern abduction accounts. They also point to the cultural variations in accounts: the English, for example, are more likely to meet friendly aliens who just want a cup of tea and a chat, while Brazilians are more likely to be raped, and UFO sightings in the Andes resemble fairy lights and mountain lights found elsewhere.

The Canadian researcher Michael Persenger has done experiments which produce ghost-like or alien presence like effects using magnetic stimulation of parts of the brain. He suspects that some "mystical" or "weird" locations are subject to geomagnetic anomalies which produce the sense of an alien presence which is then interpreted in accordance with cultural norms as good spirits, evil spirits, gods, fairies, etc.

As part of my studies I read a fair amount of folklore and theory. I've always been interested in "paranormal", UFO and other "weird" phenomena, reading omnivorously as a child and teenager, but I've always maintained a skeptical willingness to be convinced.

The idea that all these phenomenon are "all in your head" is surely wrong and silly. A lot of them come out of other people's heads. I have contemplated writing a book which searches for the cultural antecedents of famous UFO stories and abductions. There is plenty of evidence our expectations (formed by popular literature, art, comic books, movies, etc.) shape our "encounters" with the weird and unknown phenomena, many of which are perfectly natural and explicable, some of which remain pretty weird, wild and wonderful even after you have the scientific explanation.

Scrooge's desperate skepticism when faced with Marley's ghost is typical of XIXth century positivism, but Charles Dickens maintains a straight face and plays off on XIXth century spiritualism and traditional beliefs as well. He is an excellent ghost story writer and you might be interested to read not only his Christmas stories but other ghost tales.

I don't read Stephen King or other modern horror writers much, if at all, but I love the well-written and cleverly ambiguous tales of the supernatural written by British and other writers from the Gothic period in the XVIIIth century to World War II. I like my horror with more than a touch of humour and satire, and it is enjoyable when the writer can maintain a sort of balance between doubt and belief, as the characters often do.

Did it really happen? It did subjectively. Who's to say that phenomena that are all in your head are not just as real as those that are all in your hand? After all, Scrooge is right about the senses being cheats, and the senses, as Eastern and Western philosophy alike point out, are all we have to go on when thinking and feeling our way through the "real" world. The real world is constructed by our beliefs, culture, illusions, errors, etc. It is just as much in our heads as in our hands. The doctrine of Maya (shared by Hindus, Buddhists and Sykhs among others) attributes various degrees of reality to illusion. Some hold that illusion is entirely a cheat, some that it is "real" to a degree, although the "real" world is unknowable to human minds and even human minds are unknowable in the end to themselves.

There is a vulgar, crude way of believing that "things are all in your head" and more sophisticated understandings. Dickens does a great job of playing off two different interpretations--Scrooge's materialistic theory that the ghost is "all in his head" or rather, in his stomach, and the undeniable narrative in which the Three Ghosts and their visions are real in a way beyond mere materiality, which is proven by Scrooge's change of heart and mind, from a dedicated materialist in both the economic and physical sense, to a Christian or at least a philanthropist.
 
2011-10-27 11:16:48 AM
Pav: A study proving people can be hypnotized and induced to dream about something specific. How fascinating. I am not a staunch believer either way but I can tell you that this study doesn't do a damn thing to prove or disprove the existence of aliens.

This. I would venture to say that commenters here that dismiss the phenomenon haven't studied the subject at all.

/Try this:

From Booklist
Mack's credentials are impressive; he's a Pulitzer Prize winner and professor of psychiatry at the Harvard Medical School's Cambridge Hospital. He has investigated 76 UFO abduction cases over the past four years and here summarizes 13 of them, also offering his scholarly comments and controversial conclusions. These narratives involve scenarios that are sexually explicit, terrifyingly gruesome, and mind-numbingly chilling in their implications for the nature of reality. The individuals Mack portrays have experienced deeply traumatic events that have transformed their lives--for the worse at first, but ultimately for the better.


Link (new window)

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2011-10-27 11:27:04 AM
HailRobonia: In high school I had a very disturbing episode of sleep paralysis. I woke up and a creature was on me, holding me down... it was Joe Camel (of the cigarette ads), and he said "Hello there."

I am glad that it was such a ludicrous thing that I hallucinated, so I could easily discount it once I recovered. If my brain decided to see an alien or a ghost, I probably would have been a believer. And yeah, I realize that cartoon cigarette spokescamels assaulting people in their sleep is just as likely as the spirits of the dead doing it.


I've had an episode of sleep paralysis too. It scared the bejeebus out of me. A very tall man came into my bedroom, he had to duck to come through the doorway. He removed his hat as he ducked. He just stood at the foot of the bed and looked at me. I tried so hard just to move my arm or to speak to wake up my husband. All I could move was my eyes. Everything in the room was as it should have been. The pile of clean but unfolded clothes on the dresser, the window slightly open, the shadows.

It was terrifying.
 
2011-10-27 11:37:58 AM
Well, damn. Ya'll white folk are goners.
 
2011-10-27 11:39:19 AM
Tyrone Slothrop: Why do you think there are all those cattle mutilations? Aliens are trying to get to the source of cheese.

curses... you beat me to it.
 
2011-10-27 11:40:16 AM
Salem Witch: I've had an episode of sleep paralysis too. It scared the bejeebus out of me. A very tall man came into my bedroom, he had to duck to come through the doorway.

Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away.
 
2011-10-27 11:43:57 AM
Salem Witch: HailRobonia: In high school I had a very disturbing episode of sleep paralysis. I woke up and a creature was on me, holding me down... it was Joe Camel (of the cigarette ads), and he said "Hello there."

I am glad that it was such a ludicrous thing that I hallucinated, so I could easily discount it once I recovered. If my brain decided to see an alien or a ghost, I probably would have been a believer. And yeah, I realize that cartoon cigarette spokescamels assaulting people in their sleep is just as likely as the spirits of the dead doing it.

I've had an episode of sleep paralysis too. It scared the bejeebus out of me. A very tall man came into my bedroom, he had to duck to come through the doorway. He removed his hat as he ducked. He just stood at the foot of the bed and looked at me. I tried so hard just to move my arm or to speak to wake up my husband. All I could move was my eyes. Everything in the room was as it should have been. The pile of clean but unfolded clothes on the dresser, the window slightly open, the shadows.

It was terrifying.


I've had a few dreams like it. I even know I'm in them sometimes, but there's nothing I can do about it. My first one happened when I was about seven. Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch were at the foot of my bed snarling at me. It was very frightening. And I couldn't move. When I finally woke up, I was just stunned at how terrifying that was.
 
2011-10-27 12:10:51 PM
I like cheese.
 
2011-10-27 12:12:12 PM
FTFA: Lead researcher Michael Raduga - the author of several popular books on 'controlling' dream states - said, 'The fact that UFOs and extraterrestrials may be deliberately encountered in a controlled manner, and within a few days proves that such experiences are a product of the human brain.

It does no such thing. I dream about lots of stuff. That doesn't mean those things never actually happen. This guy should dream about taking a logic class.
 
2011-10-27 12:25:06 PM
Salem Witch: A very tall man came into my bedroom, he had to duck to come through the doorway.

img440.imageshack.us

This guy? Did he say anything about owls not being what they seem?
 
2011-10-27 12:29:21 PM
Wisconsinites?


Ah. Well, I've long thought it was all really a temporary increase in DMT levels in the brain, possibly in combination with broken memories of circumcision. It does usually seem to be men, doesn't it?
 
Pav
2011-10-27 12:29:26 PM
Mugato: Pav: I am not a staunch believer either way but I can tell you that this study doesn't do a damn thing to prove or disprove the existence of aliens.

That's just kind of a broad statement. There are more star systems...not just planets but star systems out there than we can wrap our heads around. Of course there's life somewhere else. But did they break the laws of physics as we know them to travel faster than light? Okay, sure, we don't know everything. Did they make it all the way here to us? A little less probable but why not. Do they care enough about us to beam us up and probe us? Getting a little less likely. Occum's Razer has to come in at some point and assume that these people are hallucinating.


There really isn't any way to determine any of those questions you bring up concretely. Physics as we know it? Can you break down quantum physics for me right here and explain exactly what we know and more importantly what we don't know? If you could I would be shocked as you can probably count the people on the whole planet who can on 2 hands. Have aliens made it all the way here to us? If you don't have a full grasp of what we do or do not know about physics how could you possibly make an educated guess as to the likelihood of that? Do they care enough about us to study us? Is this really even less likely? We pull things out of their natural habitat every single day with the sole purpose of studying them.

You might want to take your occum's razor and shave your hairy bung with it because your premise is shiat and it might form dingle berries.
 
2011-10-27 12:34:58 PM
See this makes sense to me (the cheese angle). See the aliens want to study us, so of course any good biological study wants to catalog our dietary habits. Cheese is a good constipatory agent if eaten heavily, so that means more food retained in the bowel making for a better volume of samples for study. Those martians are smart fellers.
 
2011-10-27 12:40:52 PM
We are all thinking it, but ill ask:

What were the methods they used to induce this, and does any type of 'suggestion' work with it?

/Wet dreams and all.
 
2011-10-27 12:52:45 PM
extraordinaryintelligence.com
 
2011-10-27 12:54:57 PM
Mugato: Pav: I am not a staunch believer either way but I can tell you that this study doesn't do a damn thing to prove or disprove the existence of aliens.

That's just kind of a broad statement. There are more star systems...not just planets but star systems out there than we can wrap our heads around. Of course there's life somewhere else. But did they break the laws of physics as we know them to travel faster than light? Okay, sure, we don't know everything. Did they make it all the way here to us? A little less probable but why not. Do they care enough about us to beam us up and probe us? Getting a little less likely. Occum's Razer has to come in at some point and assume that these people are hallucinating.


They want our hardy genes.

/Or mayby our jeans.
 
2011-10-27 01:05:24 PM
PsiChi: Pav: A study proving people can be hypnotized and induced to dream about something specific. How fascinating. I am not a staunch believer either way but I can tell you that this study doesn't do a damn thing to prove or disprove the existence of aliens.

This. I would venture to say that commenters here that dismiss the phenomenon haven't studied the subject at all.

/Try this:

From Booklist
Mack's credentials are impressive; he's a Pulitzer Prize winner and professor of psychiatry at the Harvard Medical School's Cambridge Hospital. He has investigated 76 UFO abduction cases over the past four years and here summarizes 13 of them, also offering his scholarly comments and controversial conclusions. These narratives involve scenarios that are sexually explicit, terrifyingly gruesome, and mind-numbingly chilling in their implications for the nature of reality. The individuals Mack portrays have experienced deeply traumatic events that have transformed their lives--for the worse at first, but ultimately for the better.

Link (new window)

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]


This. I took a very brief psych class that focused partly on alien abduction, and read some of Mack's stuff. He was smart, and more importantly he looked at this in the right way: he didn't start out thinking that it was aliens, and he didn't think it could never be aliens. He evaluated everything equally and fairly and made his own conclusions, and it almost got him kicked out of Harvard. If more people did this, we'd have more open discussions about it and other controversial topics that would lead to a better understanding.

But it couldn't be aliens. Those people are nuts.
 
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