Done in one.

No, just one type - Mooslims.

what a fascist piece of shiat might look like...

I don't mind profiling as long it's not amateurfiling.

They must be on the lookout for Splint Chesthair.

Damn, good think I didn't go through with my plan to change my name to Blast Hardcheese

First, Mr. Samir Naga... Naga... Naga... Not gonna be able to take a piss without us knowing about it.

Headso: Damn, good think I didn't go through with my plan to change my name to Blast Hardcheese

Was your former name Bob Johnson?

/Hey, hey, she's dead!
//Wait a minute!
///She died!
////Wow!
//"Sir?" - I think it was very nice of you to give that dead woman another chance!

Calmamity: We must destroy everything this country stands for in order to save it.

So the trick for terrorists is to change your name to something that doesn't sound American or Muslim.

I guess that makes these lyrics prophetic:
Well give your ID card to the border guard
Yeah, your alias says you're Captain Jean-Luc Picard

It's hard to justify your inflated budget without inventing people to be afraid of.

What the most annoying, irritating, aggravating but legal thing is that can be done to individual cops, people ought to start doing it. I have no idea what that is, though.

Police also knew that a would-be terrorist who Americanized his name in hopes of lying low was unlikely to confess as much to detectives. In fact, of those who agreed to talk at all, many said they Americanized their names because they were being harassed or were having problems getting a job and thought a new name would help.

Little did they know....NYPD was just looking for a chance to harass them.

This whole story gets more sickening as you read on:
The FBI would not be allowed to run a similar program because of First Amendment and privacy concerns and because the goal is too vague and the program too broad

gshepnyc: What the most annoying, irritating, aggravating but legal thing is that can be done to individual cops, people ought to start doing it. I have no idea what that is, though.

Obeying the law seems to piss them off pretty bad.

Headso

Damn, good think I didn't go through with my plan to change my name to Blast Hardcheese


Hi - Roll Fizzlebeef, nice to meet ya.


Punt Speedchunk!

The NYPD is shadowing two types of people


They got both kinds: country AND western.

Englebert Slaptyback: Headso

Damn, good think I didn't go through with my plan to change my name to Blast Hardcheese


Hi - Roll Fizzlebeef, nice to meet ya.


Punt Speedchunk!

Don't forget me, your friend Buff Drinklots

Superman Bald-Eagle Jeffgordon.

There are two types of people in the world, my friend............

John Bigbooty and John Yahyah unavailable for comment.

Hugh Mann.

Arkanaut: No, just one type - Mooslims.

FTFA:

The NYPD monitors everyone in the city who changes his or her name, according to internal police documents and interviews. (emphasis added)

People from majority-Muslim countries, and/or who have "Arabic-sounding" names, get extra-special surveillance.

Cue Franz Kafka.

brantgoose: One in a thousand Americans share my family name. I wonder if that's enough for a name "to sound American"?


Mike Litoris? Is that you?

Wow two guys did that. Must-shut-down-everything and make it a #1 objective.

In the end you will be killed by a white guy named Steve. The odds are much much higher.

"...those with American-sounding names blacks and those with foreign-sounding names Dominicans..."


There, fixed.

iollow: It's hard to justify your inflated budget without inventing people to be afraid of.

Yes, because police departments totally have too much money lying around. They are definitely not having their budget cut left and right just like every single other government agency and department and they certainly don't have a history of performing complicated and difficult work with insufficient resources.

Look, we can demonize our local governments for being underfunded and incompetent or we can demonize then for being greedy, thieving scum, but we can't have it both ways. They either have too much money or not enough.

Case in point: the article describes the police process of trying to sniff out terrorism by looking at records of name changes (which they already have access to, so there's no serious cost there,) checking all their paperwork, and randomly sending uniformed officers to... chat with them. What does this sound like to you, the department droppin' mad benjamins on hot new investigative techniques and equipment, or the department desperately trying to look like they're doing something to stop terrorism while spending as little as humanly possible? Security theater is cheap when you do it right.

Whew! Well, that leaves me out.

/you tell me what it sounds like

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There are two types of people in the world, my friend............

What was his name? "Bill Carson"?

vexle: iollow: It's hard to justify your inflated budget without inventing people to be afraid of.

Yes, because police departments totally have too much money lying around. They are definitely not having their budget cut left and right just like every single other government agency and department and they certainly don't have a history of performing complicated and difficult work with insufficient resources.

Look, we can demonize our local governments for being underfunded and incompetent or we can demonize then for being greedy, thieving scum, but we can't have it both ways. They either have too much money or not enough.

Case in point: the article describes the police process of trying to sniff out terrorism by looking at records of name changes (which they already have access to, so there's no serious cost there,) checking all their paperwork, and randomly sending uniformed officers to... chat with them. What does this sound like to you, the department droppin' mad benjamins on hot new investigative techniques and equipment, or the department desperately trying to look like they're doing something to stop terrorism while spending as little as humanly possible? Security theater is cheap when you do it right.


First of all, sending officers to "chat" with somebody sounds like harassment. I don't care to have pigs dropping by my house uninvited. Second, what in holy FARK is the NYPD doing investigating terrorism? That should NOT be a local matter anyway, we already have more than one federal agency dealing with that, alleged, threat.

pxlboy: brantgoose: The most American name ever: Three Wolf Moon.

But if you want to be really silly, and at the moment I am really silly, you could adopt the Indian name:

Brave Hunter Swim Up River Many Days, Stub Toe on Hoover, Damn!

***

Names like that don't fit into forms very well. Also, my Mother (Mother Goose) says that if she had it to do over she would give her children names that are easier to spell. Two things to bear in mind when naming children: concision and simplicity.

***

Some names are both English and Chinese: like Lee.

Some names are both English and Native American: like Tree.

Some names are invented just to screw with your head: like Moon Unit or Farqueharsen Chomedeley Featherstonehaugh.

And lots of names turn out to be real even though you swore to yourself that you'd make one up that couldn't be.

Maybe Chuck Steak or Biggie McLargehuge

Superman Dumptruck

Kentucky Fried Children: pxlboy: brantgoose: The most American name ever: Three Wolf Moon.

But if you want to be really silly, and at the moment I am really silly, you could adopt the Indian name:

Brave Hunter Swim Up River Many Days, Stub Toe on Hoover, Damn!

***

Names like that don't fit into forms very well. Also, my Mother (Mother Goose) says that if she had it to do over she would give her children names that are easier to spell. Two things to bear in mind when naming children: concision and simplicity.

***

Some names are both English and Chinese: like Lee.

Some names are both English and Native American: like Tree.

Some names are invented just to screw with your head: like Moon Unit or Farqueharsen Chomedeley Featherstonehaugh.

And lots of names turn out to be real even though you swore to yourself that you'd make one up that couldn't be.

Maybe Chuck Steak or Biggie McLargehuge

Superman Dumptruck

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The NYPD is shadowing two types of people: Those with American-sounding names, and those with foreign-sounding names

According to published documents, the Feds (FBI/DEA/TSA/ABC/XYZ/etc.) consider you 'suspicious' if:

- you exit a plane first (you're obviously nervous and in a hurry)
- you exit a plane last (you're obviously trying to scope things out, looking for Federal Agents)
- you exit a plane in the middle (you're obviously trying to lose yourself in the crowd).

BarbadoSlim: vexle: iollow: It's hard to justify your inflated budget without inventing people to be afraid of.

Yes, because police departments totally have too much money lying around. They are definitely not having their budget cut left and right just like every single other government agency and department and they certainly don't have a history of performing complicated and difficult work with insufficient resources.

Look, we can demonize our local governments for being underfunded and incompetent or we can demonize then for being greedy, thieving scum, but we can't have it both ways. They either have too much money or not enough.

Case in point: the article describes the police process of trying to sniff out terrorism by looking at records of name changes (which they already have access to, so there's no serious cost there,) checking all their paperwork, and randomly sending uniformed officers to... chat with them. What does this sound like to you, the department droppin' mad benjamins on hot new investigative techniques and equipment, or the department desperately trying to look like they're doing something to stop terrorism while spending as little as humanly possible? Security theater is cheap when you do it right.


First of all, sending officers to "chat" with somebody sounds like harassment. I don't care to have pigs dropping by my house uninvited.

So, let me get this straight: A uniformed officer knocks on your door. He wants to ask you questions. This is harassment... why? I don't think you know what harassment is. You know you can just tell the officer you don't want to talk with him, right? He has, as you say, "dropped by uninvited." You can welcome into your home or not as you see fit- or even not answer the door at all. What do you think the officer is going to do, stand there for hours yelling at you to come out? He has been instructed to perform a useless piece of busywork that he knows will not yield anything even a little significant. This meeting is cutting into his coffee time. The LAST THING HE WANTS is for you to open the door, which means he needs to ask you a bunch of moronic questions.

Second, what in holy FARK is the NYPD doing investigating terrorism? That should NOT be a local matter anyway, we already have more than one federal agency dealing with that, alleged, threat.

Uh, yeah, no shiat. You think the NYPD doesn't agree with you three-hundred-farking percent on that? What's more likely: scenario A, wherein the entire NYPD is filled with enthusiastic go-getters who won't trust the tough job of keeping New Yorkers safe from the spectre of evil to anybody else, or B, where somebody who is either an elected official with unrealistic expectations or somebody within the department with more authority than brains (or any combination thereof) takes his job a little to seriously, and everybody below that guy has to play ball?

Look, I know police departments are the internet's new favorite boogeyman, but sometimes a poorly led organization with too many chiefs, not enough money, and way too much pressure from all sides is just what it appears to be. Hanlon's Razor states: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Sure, some officers are jackasses and those douchebags ruin it for everybody, but the idea that all officers are "pigs" who regularly take time out of their day (which, remember, directly translates to fewer trips to Dunkin' Donuts) to harass people for no reason is just moronic.

Dumb idea, waste of resources, unlikely to produce any positive impact and the potential negative impact on law-abiding citizens is unacceptable.

The only place in which changing one's name to sound "more American" is suspicious is in the mind of the NYPD. And it certainly says a hell of a lot more about the NYPD than it does about the people changing their names.

That's why I changed my name to that of a Pornstar. Neither American nor Foreign sounding, so no one looks twice at my name- no suspicions I'll be smuggling weapons of mass destruction.

_{/perhaps weapons of ass destruction though.}

The intelligence officer's name is David Cohen. That's like the John Smith of Jewish names.

So it is suspicious to both change your name to being less Arabic, or more Arabic?

The racial profiling part sounds stupid, however, I would expect most name changes should propagate through the police, government and intelligence computers. It makes sense that just changing your name shouldn't be enough to suddenly be "off the grid'. If someone that is legitimately being sought by police or intelligence changes their name, that should be flagged.

I guess the issue is the idea of "sounding" names. If they were already tracking some guy and he changed his name, I can understand that adding suspicion, but if they are choosing to track people for no other reason than name changes then that is pretty asinine.

Skr: That's why I changed my name to that of a Pornstar. Neither American nor Foreign sounding, so no one looks twice at my name- no suspicions I'll be smuggling weapons of mass destruction.

/perhaps weapons of ass destruction though.

Deeptrough?

fredklein,The NYPD is shadowing two types of people: Those with American-sounding names, and those with foreign-sounding names
According to published documents, the Feds (FBI/DEA/TSA/ABC/XYZ/etc.) consider you 'suspicious' if:
- you exit a plane first (you're obviously nervous and in a hurry)
- you exit a plane last (you're obviously trying to scope things out, looking for Federal Agents)
- you exit a plane in the middle (you're obviously trying to lose yourself in the crowd).

I don't know fredklein, just walk casual.