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(CSMonitor) Interesting Condoleezza Rice talks about Bush in new book. Says she thought the situation in Iraq could get hairy and troop levels should be trimmed but when she brought up shaving troop numbers Bush became bristly   (csmonitor.com) divider line 93
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2011-10-26 09:53:53 AM
Does she still like Bush, or has she changed her mind on the subject?
 
2011-10-26 10:02:58 AM
Rice says she also had disagreements with Rumsfeld and that she once asked him what was wrong in their relationship.

"You're obviously bright and committed, but it just doesn't work," she says Rumsfeld told her.


I think "uppity" is the word he was looking for.

That administration expelled anyone who didn't toe the line, or expressed some actual principles that contradicted what they wanted to do. Powell, Rice, O'Neil, Whitman...
 
2011-10-26 10:08:14 AM
Is it racist of me to say that she's desperately trying to white-wash her past?

This biatch was on board from day one, and she was never anything but a bootlicking toady who willingly lied to America for the Bush Administration. So, whatever her opinions, her actions show her to be a person of low character and zero integrity.
 
2011-10-26 10:12:11 AM
Vodka Zombie: Is it racist of me to say that she's desperately trying to white-wash her past?

This biatch was on board from day one, and she was never anything but a bootlicking toady who willingly lied to America for the Bush Administration. So, whatever her opinions, her actions show her to be a person of low character and zero integrity.


I wonder how much last minute emergency editing went into the book after Cheney'shiat the shelves.
 
2011-10-26 10:12:45 AM
Of course she did. She was totally trying to save American soldiers. She's so brave.

/I'll borrow your book from the library, poop on it, and leave it in a parking lot.
 
2011-10-26 10:25:07 AM
Diogenes: Cheney'shiat the shelves

When he released the book, that's exactly what happened
 
2011-10-26 10:35:41 AM
SmackLT: Diogenes: Cheney'shiat the shelves

When he released the book, that's exactly what happened


What a happy accident!
 
2011-10-26 10:51:45 AM
NewportBarGuy: Of course she did. She was totally trying to save American soldiers. She's so brave.

/I'll borrow your book from the library, poop on it, and leave it in a parking lot.


Wont the library make you pay for it and then just buy another copy?
If you really want to poop on it go to Barnes and Noble and take it the bathroom, everybody wins.
 
2011-10-26 10:54:52 AM
spongeboob: If you really want to poop on it go to Barnes and Noble and take it the bathroom, everybody wins.

Thank you, Sir! That is a most excellent plan of action.
 
2011-10-26 11:04:27 AM
either Al Gonzales or I will have to resign," Rice says she told Bush

Pity that both of them didn't resign.
 
2011-10-26 11:26:08 AM
Diogenes: Cheney'shiat the shelves

Epic filter win
 
2011-10-26 11:28:18 AM
spongeboob: Wont the library make you pay for it and then just buy another copy?
If you really want to poop on it go to Barnes and Noble and take it the bathroom, everybody wins.


Wasn't this the plot of an episode of Seinfeld
 
2011-10-26 11:29:49 AM
I'd hit it. Condoleeza is quite attractive.
 
2011-10-26 11:32:11 AM
dittybopper: I'd hit it. Condoleeza is quite attractive.

Settle down, Muammar.
 
2011-10-26 11:34:26 AM
I thought her testimony at the 9/11 commission was a subtle exercise in farking bald faced lies.
 
2011-10-26 11:36:58 AM
Jackson Herring: spongeboob: Wont the library make you pay for it and then just buy another copy?
If you really want to poop on it go to Barnes and Noble and take it the bathroom, everybody wins.

Wasn't this the plot of an episode of Seinfeld


It couldn't be, pooping on a Cheney's book is mildly amusing.
 
2011-10-26 11:41:05 AM
Jake Havechek: I thought her testimony at the 9/11 commission was a subtle exercise in farking bald faced lies.

That was subtle?
 
2011-10-26 11:45:04 AM
dittybopper: I'd hit it. Condoleeza is quite attractive.

I don't think she likes men. NTTAWWT, but I'm not sure she'd let you fark her.

She does seem to have a thing for leather, so thats a plus.
 
2011-10-26 11:45:53 AM
Rice says in her book that Omar Hassan al-Bashir, Sudan's president, looked "as though he was on drugs" and that she felt like she needed a shower after shaking hands with the president of Lebanon, Émile Lahoud.

Jesus Farking Christ, we made this woman our chief diplomat? "Oooh he gave me cooties!"
 
2011-10-26 11:47:14 AM
Jake Havechek: I thought her testimony at the 9/11 commission was a subtle exercise in farking bald faced lies.


It was a historical document.
 
2011-10-26 11:47:20 AM
She was way out of her element, anyway.

Clinton transition team handed over a report that said terrorism will be the "paramount issue" in the 21st century. What did they do? Hire a person for NSA who's area of expertize is US/Soviet relations during the Cold War.

They just didn't care, they just said "la de da, let's spend some money on missile defense", meanwhile, al qaeda is finalizing their plans.
 
2011-10-26 11:47:40 AM
images.wikia.com

Obligatory
 
2011-10-26 11:49:06 AM
Where's the raunchy Qaddafi video of her?
 
2011-10-26 11:49:33 AM
what was the misstatement about bush being her daddy?
I cant find it anywhere and am bad at google
 
2011-10-26 11:50:42 AM
Jake Havechek: She was way out of her element, anyway.

Clinton transition team handed over a report that said terrorism will be the "paramount issue" in the 21st century. What did they do? Hire a person for NSA who's area of expertize is US/Soviet relations during the Cold War.

They just didn't care, they just said "la de da, let's spend some money on missile defense", meanwhile, al qaeda is finalizing their plans.


LALALALLALALALALA
we cant HEAR YOU!!!!

the dems are bad at national defense
everyone KNOWS THAT

LALALALALALALAALALALALALALALAL
 
2011-10-26 11:51:10 AM
namatad: what was the misstatement about bush being her daddy?
I cant find it anywhere and am bad at google


Husband, she said at least once..
 
2011-10-26 11:51:45 AM
sprawl15: Jackson Herring: spongeboob: Wont the library make you pay for it and then just buy another copy?
If you really want to poop on it go to Barnes and Noble and take it the bathroom, everybody wins.

Wasn't this the plot of an episode of Seinfeld

It couldn't be, pooping on a Cheney's book is mildly amusing.


i.imgur.com

farking hell you don't want to know what a pain in the ass it was to shrink that to Fark acceptable file size
 
2011-10-26 11:53:01 AM
ABC News, April 9, 2008:

Sources: Top Bush Advisers Approved 'Enhanced Interrogation'

In dozens of top-secret talks and meetings in the White House, the most senior Bush administration officials discussed and approved specific details of how high-value al Qaeda suspects would be interrogated by the Central Intelligence Agency, sources tell ABC News.

The so-called Principals who participated in the meetings also approved the use of "combined" interrogation techniques - using different techniques during interrogations, instead of using one method at a time - on terrorist suspects who proved difficult to break, sources said.

Highly placed sources said a handful of top advisers signed off on how the CIA would interrogate top al Qaeda suspects - whether they would be slapped, pushed, deprived of sleep or subjected to simulated drowning, called waterboarding.

The high-level discussions about these "enhanced interrogation techniques" were so detailed, these sources said, some of the interrogation sessions were almost choreographed - down to the number of times CIA agents could use a specific tactic.

At the time, the Principals Committee included Vice President Cheney, former National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell, as well as CIA Director George Tenet and Attorney General John Ashcroft.

As the national security adviser, Rice chaired the meetings, which took place in the White House Situation Room and were typically attended by most of the principals or their deputies. . . .

Then-Attorney General Ashcroft was troubled by the discussions. He agreed with the general policy decision to allow aggressive tactics and had repeatedly advised that they were legal. But he argued that senior White House advisers should not be involved in the grim details of interrogations, sources said. . . .

According to a top official, Ashcroft asked aloud after one meeting: "Why are we talking about this in the White House? History will not judge this kindly."

The Principals also approved interrogations that combined different methods, pushing the limits of international law and even the Justice Department's own legal approval in the 2002 memo, sources told ABC News.

Then-National Security Advisor Rice, sources said, was decisive. Despite growing policy concerns - shared by Powell - that the program was harming the image of the United States abroad, sources say she did not back down, telling the CIA: "This is your baby. Go do it."
 
2011-10-26 11:57:54 AM
Condoleezza Rice: "I was just following orders."
 
2011-10-26 11:58:39 AM
Jackson Herring: spongeboob: Wont the library make you pay for it and then just buy another copy?
If you really want to poop on it go to Barnes and Noble and take it the bathroom, everybody wins.

Wasn't this the plot of an episode of Seinfeld


If I can't use pop culture for the hopping off point of my cunning plans I would have nothing.
 
2011-10-26 11:59:39 AM
Is it any wonder these people failed upwards in the Bush Administration?
 
2011-10-26 12:00:44 PM
Interesting that she would admit to wanting lower troop levels, when the conventional wisdom is that the raising of troop levels helped restore order to Iraq, and that we should have used more troops from the get-go. If she wanted to whitewash, that would have been a good place to do it.

(Obvious disclaimer: The Iraqis getting sick of their civil war was surely the primary reason the violence tapered off, but adding more troops didn't hurt.)
 
2011-10-26 12:05:17 PM
Jackson Herring: sprawl15: Jackson Herring: spongeboob: Wont the library make you pay for it and then just buy another copy?
If you really want to poop on it go to Barnes and Noble and take it the bathroom, everybody wins.

Wasn't this the plot of an episode of Seinfeld

It couldn't be, pooping on a Cheney's book is mildly amusing.

[i.imgur.com image 163x122]

farking hell you don't want to know what a pain in the ass it was to shrink that to Fark acceptable file size


AND WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH INTERNAL BLEEDING?

IF IT'S INTERNAL, THEN YOU AREN'T BLEEDING!
 
2011-10-26 12:07:46 PM
vernonFL: dittybopper: I'd hit it. Condoleeza is quite attractive.

I don't think she likes men. NTTAWWT, but I'm not sure she'd let you fark her.

She does seem to have a thing for leather, so thats a plus.


1) no evidence that she gay
2) no added value in suggesting she is gay
3) no specific reason for you to respond to dittybopper.

what a thoroughly stupid and irrelevant post.
 
2011-10-26 12:09:00 PM
Tibeerius: Interesting that she would admit to wanting lower troop levels, when the conventional wisdom is that the raising of troop levels helped restore order to Iraq, and that we should have used more troops from the get-go. If she wanted to whitewash, that would have been a good place to do it.

(Obvious disclaimer: The Iraqis getting sick of their civil war was surely the primary reason the violence tapered off, but adding more troops didn't hurt.)


I think its interesting she wanted to go on permanent record that the best solution to her was to abandon all of the Iraqi cities whilst sitting by watching them kill eachother.

On the one hand I understand the notion of keeping US blood out of a raging civil war, but the strategy completely ignores the fact that our invasion and bungling directly after was the reason for the civil war. Can't imagine the international outrage that would have resulted from the silhouettes of US troops encamped on the outskirts baghdad watching it burn.
 
2011-10-26 12:10:51 PM
Tibeerius: Interesting that she would admit to wanting lower troop levels, when the conventional wisdom is that the raising of troop levels helped restore order to Iraq, and that we should have used more troops from the get-go. If she wanted to whitewash, that would have been a good place to do it.

(Obvious disclaimer: The Iraqis getting sick of their civil war was surely the primary reason the violence tapered off, but adding more troops didn't hurt.)


They were too psyched about Saddam being toppled so fast to give a shiat about how destabilizing the country like that would give birth to an insurgency.

The dumb farks in the Bush Admin. didn't bother to learn about the Sunni/Shi'ite rift, nor did they care; it was a forgone conclusion that chaos would erupt.
 
2011-10-26 12:12:32 PM
Tibeerius: Interesting that she would admit to wanting lower troop levels, when the conventional wisdom is that the raising of troop levels helped restore order to Iraq, and that we should have used more troops from the get-go. If she wanted to whitewash, that would have been a good place to do it.

(Obvious disclaimer: The Iraqis getting sick of their civil war was surely the primary reason the violence tapered off, but adding more troops didn't hurt.)


I think the primary failure of the War Presidentiary of Presidenting "The Deciderer" Bush was in believing Don Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz - two guys whose only combat experience involved green plastic and rugburn - over GEN Eric Shinseki.

Ignored his advice, forced him out of the service, disparaged him and his estimates, and claimed to support the troops and listen to our commanders on the ground.

The whole shiatstorm of the Iraq debacle (once it became clear we were going to invade anyway...about 3 hours before they passed the AUMF) can be boiled down to that one decision.

Condi Rice seems like furniture sometimes - you wonder if she had a Cheney-like influence on the situation or was The Peter Principle's token member.

// don't know if Condi had anything to say about Shinseki's 400k troops
// I know that the speech she had planned to give on 11SEP2001 is rumored to have been about missile defense
 
2011-10-26 12:12:53 PM
Shinseki, the guy who knew exactly what was going to happen during the occupation was fired for stating the facts. Anybody in the Bush Admin. who had a hand in the Iraq invasion is a war criminal as far as I'm concerned.
 
2011-10-26 12:22:48 PM
sprawl15: AND WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH INTERNAL BLEEDING?

IF IT'S INTERNAL, THEN YOU AREN'T BLEEDING!


Celebrity Death Match?

/obscure!
 
2011-10-26 12:24:19 PM
Condoleezza Rice reminds us all that negligence is the easiest crime to get away with.
 
2011-10-26 12:27:38 PM
Jake Havechek: Shinseki, the guy who knew exactly what was going to happen during the occupation was fired for stating the facts. Anybody in the Bush Admin. who had a hand in the Iraq invasion is a war criminal as far as I'm concerned.

Yep, Too bad President Bush-lite will never do a thing about it.

www.historycommons.org
 
2011-10-26 12:43:36 PM
Crunch61: Jake Havechek: Shinseki, the guy who knew exactly what was going to happen during the occupation was fired for stating the facts. Anybody in the Bush Admin. who had a hand in the Iraq invasion is a war criminal as far as I'm concerned.

Yep, Too bad President Bush-lite will never do a thing about it.

[www.historycommons.org image 312x198]


I sort of agree... but what good would it do? If you haven't noticed, there are more than a few "now" problems we need to focus on.
 
2011-10-26 12:45:32 PM
www.themediareport.com

In case anyone forgot what liberals actually think about Condoleezza Rice.
 
2011-10-26 12:46:48 PM
robrr2003: [www.themediareport.com image 192x216]

In case anyone forgot what liberals actually think about Condoleezza Rice.


I remember when we all got together and wrote that as a group.
 
2011-10-26 12:46:49 PM
Crunch61: Jake Havechek: Shinseki, the guy who knew exactly what was going to happen during the occupation was fired for stating the facts. Anybody in the Bush Admin. who had a hand in the Iraq invasion is a war criminal as far as I'm concerned.

Yep, Too bad President Bush-lite will never do a thing about it.

[www.historycommons.org image 312x198]


He really can't

It would be like if we actually jammed that motherfarker Nixon in prison. Would have been nice, but it would have torn the country apart. Still, fark Gerry Ford and his alky wife.
 
2011-10-26 12:49:00 PM
Oh, its time to re-write history again, huh? Fark yoooou, biatch. DIAF.
 
2011-10-26 12:49:35 PM
Dr Dreidel: // I know that the speech she had planned to give on 11SEP2001 is rumored to have been about missile defense


i remember a PBS documentary about how Ashcroft was set to unleash a massive crackdown on porn, but then 9/11 happened.

they even interviewed him, and John Freaking Ashcroft used the word "bukake". Swear to christ. he was describing deviant sexual behaviors that he intended to crack down on, and he used that as an example.
 
2011-10-26 12:49:48 PM
karmaceutical: I sort of agree... but what good would it do? If you haven't noticed, there are more than a few "now" problems we need to focus on.

Are we completely incapable of multi-tasking? WTF, letting these evil bastards off the hook because we're "too busy" to prosecute them is bullshiat.
 
2011-10-26 12:49:59 PM
karmaceutical: I sort of agree... but what good would it do? If you haven't noticed, there are more than a few "now" problems we need to focus on.

Jake Havechek: He really can't

It would be like if we actually jammed that motherfarker Nixon in prison. Would have been nice, but it would have torn the country apart. Still, fark Gerry Ford and his alky wife.


True, true. Painful though.
 
2011-10-26 12:50:15 PM
Crunch61:
President Bush-lite



So you voting for Romney?
 
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