So since she's dead, does that mean her music sucks less now? Is she going to get some Lifetime Achievement award at BAFTA?

alcohol and prescription drugs for alcoholism, they go so well together

ZAZ: she was 4.5 times over the legal drunk-driving limit

That is not a useful measure. In most of America, twice the limit = drunk and four times the limit = very drunk. Some places have lower limits where 4.5 times is only moderately drunk. And then there's the article from a few months ago where the Scottish DUI limit depends on whether you're English or Scottish.

I don't know the numbers offhand, by the DUI limits in Europe are generally lower than those in the States.

ZAZ: she was 4.5 times over the legal drunk-driving limit

That is not a useful measure. In most of America, twice the limit = drunk and four times the limit = very drunk. Some places have lower limits where 4.5 times is only moderately drunk. And then there's the article from a few months ago where the Scottish DUI limit depends on whether you're English or Scottish.

How drunk is that converted to football fields?

bump: Proof that if you don't follow the steps you will die unless you get in 90 meetings in 90 days, get a sponsor, read your big book and work your steps. If nothing else, her death can be proof to the rest of the alcoholic diseased sufferers out there to surrender to the program.

This is either an inspired work of gonzo-style commenting or you're just entirely incoherent...

Dwight_Yeast: I don't know the numbers offhand, by the DUI limits in Europe are generally lower than those in the States.

Generally yes, not in the UK, though. 0.08% is the same as most of the US, right? I think almost every European country has a lower limit, although I'm not sure about the Finns...

Imma gonna dig up her body and crack open a cold one.

bump: Proof that if you don't follow the steps you will die unless you get in 90 meetings in 90 days, get a sponsor, read your big book and work your steps. If nothing else, her death can be proof to the rest of the alcoholic diseased sufferers out there to surrender to the program.

Snort....

Actually, there IS a little bit of truth there. If nothing else, her death might shake a couple of people to take that first step (and, yes, it IS the most important one).

Taking a standard .08 as legally impaired, at 4.5x that, shehad a BAC that of .36.

Her blood was 1/3 alcohol. For a wisp of a chick like that, not hard to see why that's dangerous.

Raug the Dwarf: Taking a standard .08 as legally impaired, at 4.5x that, shehad a BAC that of .36.

Her blood was 1/3 alcohol. For a wisp of a chick like that, not hard to see why that's dangerous.

wat

Raug the Dwarf: Taking a standard .08 as legally impaired, at 4.5x that, shehad a BAC that of .36.

Her blood was 1/3 alcohol. For a wisp of a chick like that, not hard to see why that's dangerous.

He was told there would be no math!

Raug the Dwarf: Taking a standard .08 as legally impaired, at 4.5x that, shehad a BAC that of .36.

Her blood was 1/3 alcohol. For a wisp of a chick like that, not hard to see why that's dangerous.

not sure is serious?
Troll?

Wow. Even I can't tell what the fark I was saying. That's what I get for trying to post before coffee.

Disregard the post.

Or regard the post and have fun with it. I don't care.

ZAZ: That is not a useful measure. In most of America, twice the limit = drunk and four times the limit = very drunk. Some places have lower limits where 4.5 times is only moderately drunk. And then there's the article from a few months ago where the Scottish DUI limit depends on whether you're English or Scottish.

Citation please.

Also, I cannot imagine why something like that in a westernized society would be legal.

Raug the Dwarf: Taking a standard .08 as legally impaired, at 4.5x that, shehad a BAC that of .36.

Her blood was 1/3 alcohol. For a wisp of a chick like that, not hard to see why that's dangerous.

No kidding. She was probably about only 100 pounds, with 25 of that to her implants.

She had a .36 BAC, which for a drunk is drunk, but not life-threatening. Maybe this killed her anyway for some reason. And why did it take so long for this info to get out? BAC is a pretty simple measurement.

I always love this "99 times over the legal driving limit!!" crap. Why can't they just say the actual BAC? Are they trained to make it sound as sensational as possible? Does MADD fund every pathologist in the world? "She was over the legal driving limit!!"---but if you think about it, the person might have had four beers. IT DOESN'T MATTER, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!! THIS IS BAD!!! WE NEED STRICTER LAWS!!

/ugh. haven't even had my coffee yet......

Jeez, how long does it take to check someone's blood alcohol level? She's been dead since July, and with her history that seems like the first place one would start the autopsy. Or maybe second after checking for smack.

/"that's some fine police work there, Lou"

spacebar: Jeez, how long does it take to check someone's blood alcohol level? She's been dead since July, and with her history that seems like the first place one would start the autopsy. Or maybe second after checking for smack.

/"that's some fine police work there, Lou"

I came here to post this. They could have had the blood tests for alcohol in literally days after her death. I have no idea why the hell it took this long.

We need to seriously put this dangerous drug on a Schedule I listing. It's dangerous, has no medicinal value and can kill a person easily. We really need to get going on this new war.

/...

ZAZ: And then there's the article from a few months ago where the Scottish DUI limit depends on whether you're English or Scottish.

I'd imagine if you're pulled over in Scotland and you're NOT drunk, the cop will buy you a can of lager.

Raug the Dwarf: Taking a standard .08 as legally impaired, at 4.5x that, shehad a BAC that of .36.

Her blood was 1/3 alcohol. For a wisp of a chick like that, not hard to see why that's dangerous.

Could be a troll, could not be. Hard to tell, here. People *are* typically horseshiat at math, after all.

I had a BAC measure by taking blood at a hospital and it was .416. I should be dead.

\recovering alcoholic

Buttknuckle: I had a BAC measure by taking blood at a hospital and it was .416. I should be dead.

\recovering alcoholic



Depends on the circumstances. But you were in the danger zone.

The Yahoo news story has the BAC result at 416 mg/100 ml. That's .416%. It says the legal driving limit is .08%, so more like 5 times the limit.

/It also describes the official cause of death as "misadventure". WTF is that?

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First time posting link. Forgive me if it doesn't work.

video man: cryinoutloud: She had a .36 BAC, which for a drunk is drunk, but not life-threatening. Maybe this killed her anyway for some reason. And why did it take so long for this info to get out? BAC is a pretty simple measurement.

I ...This. I don't even start to feel the alcohol until .~06 BAC.


She could have had a seizure or other event that would be hard to pick up.

amateur

Another Government Employee: Buttknuckle: I had a BAC measure by taking blood at a hospital and it was .416. I should be dead.

\recovering alcoholic



Depends on the circumstances. But you were in the danger zone.

Scary thing is I remember the whole thing.

Hate hearing stories about death like this one, but it reminds me of where I used to be and humbles me.

Buttknuckle: Another Government Employee: Buttknuckle: I had a BAC measure by taking blood at a hospital and it was .416. I should be dead.

\recovering alcoholic



Depends on the circumstances. But you were in the danger zone.

Scary thing is I remember the whole thing.

Hate hearing stories about death like this one, but it reminds me of where I used to be and humbles me.

Did you note that her BAC was exactly the same number?

shower_in_my_socks: I thought they already released the tox reports weeks ago and came up with nothing. They said she died as a result of withdrawals.

Now they're saying she drank herself to death? How farking hard was it to figure that out? The smell of alcohol in the room would have been a pretty big tipoff.

It could still be the withdrawal that did it rather than the actual alcohol. When you drink very heavily then stop then start again the wild swings can kill you at BAC levels that wouldn't have otherwise been fatal.

/ but remember kids, alcohol, though far more dangerous than many other drugs, is the only one that's socially acceptable and government approved

Jake Havechek: So since she's dead, does that mean her music sucks less now? Is she going to get some Lifetime Achievement award at BAFTA?

When you die, are you going to suck less? Doubt it.

ImperialHazman: Buttknuckle: Another Government Employee: Buttknuckle: I had a BAC measure by taking blood at a hospital and it was .416. I should be dead.

\recovering alcoholic



Depends on the circumstances. But you were in the danger zone.

Scary thing is I remember the whole thing.

Hate hearing stories about death like this one, but it reminds me of where I used to be and humbles me.

Did you note that her BAC was exactly the same number?

I did now. That is eerie.

Karne: Jake Havechek: So since she's dead, does that mean her music sucks less now? Is she going to get some Lifetime Achievement award at BAFTA?

When you die, are you going to suck less? Doubt it.

People still talk about Billie Holiday and Etta James, in ten years, nobody is going to remember this hack.

Buttknuckle: ImperialHazman: Buttknuckle: Another Government Employee: Buttknuckle: I had a BAC measure by taking blood at a hospital and it was .416. I should be dead.

\recovering alcoholic



Depends on the circumstances. But you were in the danger zone.

Scary thing is I remember the whole thing.

Hate hearing stories about death like this one, but it reminds me of where I used to be and humbles me.

Did you note that her BAC was exactly the same number?

I did now. That is eerie.

Maybe that's the limit of the measurement. If your BAC is that high, why measure hIgher?

The pathologist's tests revealed that Winehouse's blood-alcohol level was 416 milligrams per 100 milliliters of blood. The level considered lethal is 350 milligrams per 100 milliliters of blood, and the legal limit to drive in Britain is 80 milligrams of alcohol.

Wouldn't that mean her blood alcohol level was 4.16?