Tommy has two daddies but no PS3.

I thought the gheys were richer than the average shmo.

jaylectricity: Every gay couple I know is living pretty damn comfortable.

The impression I get is not how they're doing now... It's the fact that if something bad happens, they are seriously farked. I mean... WTF. I'd streamline adoption for children residing in the same house AT THE VERY LEAST.

The thought of not being able to see my child in the hospital or having him without support if I suddenly die is terrifying, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone no matter what.

This is where my live-and-let-live philosophy stops. If two people of the same sex want to get married, then fine. But do not bring children into that situation. I had a friend in high school who had two mommies, and the poor girl was as screwed up as they come. She ended up killing herself after prom our senior year. A family is defined as a mother, a father, and a child. Our society seems content to pervert the meaning of marriage, but I will die before I let them destroy the meaning of family.

Shazam999: I thought the gheys were richer than the average shmo.

They must be the 1%!!! Get 'em!

spentmiles: This is where my live-and-let-live philosophy stops. If two people of the same sex want to get married, then fine. But do not bring children into that situation. I had a friend in high school who had two mommies, and the poor girl was as screwed up as they come. She ended up killing herself after prom our senior year. A family is defined as a mother, a father, and a child. Our society seems content to pervert the meaning of marriage, but I will die before I let them destroy the meaning of family.

Then die. The world is better off without your sorry ass.

Aidan: jaylectricity: Every gay couple I know is living pretty damn comfortable.

The impression I get is not how they're doing now... It's the fact that if something bad happens, they are seriously farked. I mean... WTF. I'd streamline adoption for children residing in the same house AT THE VERY LEAST.

The thought of not being able to see my child in the hospital or having him without support if I suddenly die is terrifying, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone no matter what.

Except for gays.
They are evil incarnate.

Being homosexual means you're not going to procreate. If you do procreate, then are you just a part time homosexual? Why is it that homosexuals can't seem to make up their minds? Regardless...this is just another case of the kids having to pay for the mistakes of their parents. That's a damn shame.

Vote Pro-Life!

PistolBob: Being homosexual means you're not going to procreate. If you do procreate, then are you just a part time homosexual? Why is it that homosexuals can't seem to make up their minds? Regardless...this is just another case of the kids having to pay for the mistakes of their parents. That's a damn shame.

Vote Pro-Life!

So more gay parents can adopt?

spentmiles: I had a friend in high school who had two mommies, and the poor girl was as screwed up as they come.

Yes, because kids who are screwed up never come from your ideal family.

Don't you see?

The unequal laws we have that create this situation are the perfect reason why we need these unequal laws to prevent children from having to grow up in underprivileged LGBT family's!

/conservative circular logic hooooooooooo

PistolBob: Being homosexual means you're not going to procreate. If you do procreate, then are you just a part time homosexual? Why is it that homosexuals can't seem to make up their minds? Regardless...this is just another case of the kids having to pay for the mistakes of their parents. That's a damn shame.

Vote Pro-Life!

Not sure if this post is serious, but the way some people hate gays encourages some to stay in the closet and "try" to be straight.

spentmiles: This is where my live-and-let-live philosophy stops. If two people of the same sex want to get married, then fine. But do not bring children into that situation.

If your "live and let live" philosophy stops at this point, it's not really a "live and let live" philosophy.

The meaning of "family" is not a mother, a father and a child. Sometimes it's 18 children. Sometimes it's a single mother because dad buggered off somewhere. Sometimes it's a single dad because mom was the one who took off - or maybe she died. Are you saying those aren't families? Sometimes a family is multiple generations of people, sometimes a family is just what you put together along the way. Your definition of family sucks and I reject it completely. It doesn't apply in any way to the real world.

spentmiles: I had a friend in high school who had two mommies, and the poor girl was as screwed up as they come. She ended up killing herself after prom our senior year.

And you derived that since she had parents who were gay, she was so screwed up that she committed suicide on what empirical evidence?

spentmiles: This is where my live-and-let-live philosophy stops. If two people of the same sex want to get married, then fine. But do not bring children into that situation. I had a friend in high school who had two mommies, and the poor girl was as screwed up as they come. She ended up killing herself after prom our senior year. A family is defined as a mother, a father, and a child. Our society seems content to pervert the meaning of marriage, but I will die before I let them destroy the meaning of family.

I could start, but I wont.
Not worth the effort.

\nice anecdotal proof

Luckily this is easily fixed. All the gay people have to do is choose not to be gay anymore, and their financial problems will be cured like their gayness.

/not serious

Oh, I see spentmiles is posting...

* grabs popcorn *

WTF Indeed: Tommy has two daddies but no PS3.

Read the article, but it seems to be based more on self-righteous speculation than anything else.

Back in the day before Mrs. Angry, I dated a girl with 2 dads. They were nice, and she was lots of fun. And she was as normal as a red head girl can be!

spentmiles: This is where my live-and-let-live philosophy stops. If two people of the same sex want to get married, then fine. But do not bring children into that situation. I had a friend in high school who had two mommies, and the poor girl was as screwed up as they come. She ended up killing herself after prom our senior year. A family is defined as a mother, a father, and a child. Our society seems content to pervert the meaning of marriage, but I will die before I let them destroy the meaning of family.

Did she kill herself because she had two mommies, or because people like you hassled her all the time about having two mommies?

bextraordinary: spentmiles: This is where my live-and-let-live philosophy stops. If two people of the same sex want to get married, then fine. But do not bring children into that situation.

If your "live and let live" philosophy stops at this point, it's not really a "live and let live" philosophy.

The meaning of "family" is not a mother, a father and a child. Sometimes it's 18 children. Sometimes it's a single mother because dad buggered off somewhere. Sometimes it's a single dad because mom was the one who took off - or maybe she died. Are you saying those aren't families? Sometimes a family is multiple generations of people, sometimes a family is just what you put together along the way. Your definition of family sucks and I reject it completely. It doesn't apply in any way to the real world.

MOTHER. FATHER. CHILD.

I don't know what real world you live in, but as a social worker, I see the destruction that same-sex couples bring down upon their children. As human beings, we have two hemispheres of the brain, a right and a left, and each side needs the nourishment of a male and female parent. You take away one, or double up the other, or half that attention by having more than one child, then the brain fails to form in a healthy fashion. You can pervert yourself, but you cannot pervert the simple definition of a family.

MOTHER. FATHER. CHILD. PERIOD.

WTF Indeed: Tommy has two daddies but no PS3.

How in the world would you have a household with two men living in it and no PS3 or XBox360? The only reason I don't have a 360 + Kinect myself is because my wife doesn't want me to get one.

/They'd probably have more than one so they can have multiplayer games without split screens.

spentmiles: This is where my live-and-let-live philosophy stops. If two people of the same sex want to get married, then fine. But do not bring children into that situation. I had a friend in high school who had two mommies, and the poor girl was as screwed up as they come. She ended up killing herself after prom our senior year. A family is defined as a mother, a father, and a child. Our society seems content to pervert the meaning of marriage, but I will die before I let them destroy the meaning of family.

Well, you're not my definition of a decent human being, so...I guess that means...something?

spentmiles: This is where my live-and-let-live philosophy stops. If two people of the same sex want to get married, then fine. But do not bring children into that situation. I had a friend in high school who had two mommies, and the poor girl was as screwed up as they come. She ended up killing herself after prom our senior year. A family is defined as a mother, a father, and a child. Our society seems content to pervert the meaning of marriage, but I will die before I let them destroy the meaning of family.

And yet repeated studies show that kids in Lesbian households come out just as, if not more, well-adjusted and mentally healthy as kids who come from straight households. You think maybe her idea of "otherness" by being teased or told by outside influences that homosexuality is immoral contributed to it? Or perhaps it was just one thing she pointed to while she was coping with crippling depression and loneliness like many a teenager goes through everyday.

I grew up with 1 mom and 0 dads.

That wasn't a family.

Not having a father figure farked me up.

Not having a mother figure would have farked me up, too.

spentmiles: I don't know what real world you live in, but as a social worker, I see the destruction that same-sex couples bring down upon their children.

Clearly, an expert's opinion on the matter.

spentmiles: This is where my live-and-let-live philosophy stops. If two people of the same sex want to get married, then fine. But do not bring children into that situation. I had a friend in high school who had two mommies, and the poor girl was as screwed up as they come. She ended up killing herself after prom our senior year. A family is defined as a mother, a father, and a child. Our society seems content to pervert the meaning of marriage, but I will die before I let them destroy the meaning of family.

I'd much rather have two dads than two moms.

theMagni: WTF Indeed: Tommy has two daddies but no PS3.

How in the world would you have a household with two men living in it and no PS3 or XBox360? The only reason I don't have a 360 + Kinect myself is because my wife doesn't want me to get one.

/They'd probably have more than one so they can have multiplayer games without split screens.

As a coupled and affluent homo, I reject your stereotyping. We wouldn't dream of having anything like a PS3 or XBox in our home. We have a Wii, thank you very much. And it's just one Wii, but it has it's own screen in the rec room.

/not a parent.
//soon to be a very doting uncle, however.

spentmiles: bextraordinary: spentmiles: This is where my live-and-let-live philosophy stops. If two people of the same sex want to get married, then fine. But do not bring children into that situation.

If your "live and let live" philosophy stops at this point, it's not really a "live and let live" philosophy.

The meaning of "family" is not a mother, a father and a child. Sometimes it's 18 children. Sometimes it's a single mother because dad buggered off somewhere. Sometimes it's a single dad because mom was the one who took off - or maybe she died. Are you saying those aren't families? Sometimes a family is multiple generations of people, sometimes a family is just what you put together along the way. Your definition of family sucks and I reject it completely. It doesn't apply in any way to the real world.

MOTHER. FATHER. CHILD.

I don't know what real world you live in, but as a social worker, I see the destruction that same-sex couples bring down upon their children. As human beings, we have two hemispheres of the brain, a right and a left, and each side needs the nourishment of a male and female parent. You take away one, or double up the other, or half that attention by having more than one child, then the brain fails to form in a healthy fashion. You can pervert yourself, but you cannot pervert the simple definition of a family.

MOTHER. FATHER. CHILD. PERIOD.

Oh miles.

/Red 4 with "see me trollin', they hatin'".

angry_scientist: she was as normal as a red head girl can be!

So she was farking hot to look at and crazy in bed?

/yeah, i have irish genes. how could you tell?

Civil Discourse: theMagni: WTF Indeed: Tommy has two daddies but no PS3.

How in the world would you have a household with two men living in it and no PS3 or XBox360? The only reason I don't have a 360 + Kinect myself is because my wife doesn't want me to get one.

/They'd probably have more than one so they can have multiplayer games without split screens.

As a coupled and affluent homo, I reject your stereotyping. We wouldn't dream of having anything like a PS3 or XBox in our home. We have a Wii, thank you very much. And it's just one Wii, but it has it's its own screen in the rec room.

FTFM

/not a parent.
//soon to be a very doting uncle, however.

Quasar: If only there were some contract their parents could enter into which would assist them with tax breaks and things of that nature.

Um, that was one of the points of the article. Same-sex marriages, while recognized in vairous states, aren't federally recognized. So for example, my ex has no choice to but file single, though she is married to her partner.

It's not a way of life I would ever choose, or choose for my children. But there it is.

Civil Discourse:
not a parent.


I applaud you, sir. See, even your own kind agrees with me. Thank you for your support.

spentmiles: This is where my live-and-let-live philosophy stops. If two people of the same sex want to get married, then fine. But do not bring children into that situation. I had a friend in high school who had two mommies, and the poor girl was as screwed up as they come. She ended up killing herself after prom our senior year. A family is defined as a mother, a father, and a child. Our society seems content to pervert the meaning of marriage, but I will die before I let them destroy the meaning of family.

You don't have any right to force your definition of family on anyone else.

I had a mom and a dad for a few years, then just a mom for a few years, then two moms for several years, and eventually I was back to just one mom. I turned out just fine, and for you to imply that because we were "different" we weren't also a "family" is pretty farking shiatty.

spentmiles: I don't know what real world you live in, but as a social worker, I see the destruction that same-sex couples bring down upon their children

Well, let's do some math here: Gay's make up something like 5% of the population as a whole. Let's say that same percentage extends to your line of work and 5% of your cases deal with homosexual parents. That means out of every 100 cases you deal with, 5 of those have gay parents. That means 95% of straight parents are involved in the physical, sexual and emotional abuse of their children in your field.

Now if you look across the board of sexual abuse inflicted on children in this country, straight identified men seem to take the cake hand over fist. Would you support legislation that bans straight identified men from adopting because they're more likely to abuse their children than a woman of any sexual orientation?

CAADbury: I grew up with 1 mom and 0 dads.

That wasn't a family.

Not having a father figure farked me up.

Not having a mother figure would have farked me up, too.

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I'm willing to bet more people have been farked up by a bad father/mother than not having a father/mother/

Settle down, everyone.
The first paragraph of the article specifically spins it as the denial of rights to these same sex couples as the reason for the poor economic standing. They even make the very factual statement that they're all very happy and well adjusted.
So no one's bashing gays. it's okay.

The only questionable thing about kids raise in same sex households is that they are LESS likely to be gay. That means that a certain number who would have been gay are choosing to live in the closet, perhaps even to themselves, to not perpetuate the idea that being raised by gay parents makes a kid gay. Of course, De-stigmatize the whole thing and that goes away too.