The US tops the list of takedown requests, of course. Funny how freedom isn't free.

FuturePastNow: The US tops the list of takedown requests, of course. Funny how freedom isn't free.

Are you farking stupid?

FuturePastNow: The US tops the list of takedown requests, of course. Funny how freedom isn't free.

Funny how a US based company is contacted more by its own government...

I'd also bet the US has more YouTube users than any other... so I could all be a reasonable numbers game.

Police Brutality thread!!!!!

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//// Tony Baloney

Quantumbunny: Funny how a US based company is contacted more by its own government...

I'd also bet the US has more YouTube users than any other... so I could all be a reasonable numbers game.

Hey hey, another person who didn't read the article.

Surely I'm not the first person that had to caughtsayof the article to figure out what the hell was being pricipaled... right?

Yodacat: Surely I'm not the first person that had to caughtsayof the article to figure out what the hell was being pricipaled... right?

Yes. We must never let that die.

sprawl15: FuturePastNow: The US tops the list of takedown requests, of course. Funny how freedom isn't free.

Are you farking stupid?

Just making a joke, sugar.

FuturePastNow: Just making a joke, sugar.

"The UK government asked Google to take down 135 YouTube videos"

"In total the US courts, government and police asked for 113 videos to be taken down"

Quite the backpedal.

Quantumbunny:
I'd also bet the US has more YouTube users than any other... so I could all be a reasonable numbers game.

With all the whining about crappy internet in the states I'd have thought YouTube would be dominated by Europeans & Asians... areas with a high percentage of broadband penetration.

sprawl15: FuturePastNow: Just making a joke, sugar.

"The UK government asked Google to take down 135 YouTube videos"

"In total the US courts, government and police asked for 113 videos to be taken down"

Quite the backpedal.

The correct number of videos either government should have asked to be removed is 0 (zero). I will ponder WTF got in to my governments head, beside the dump truck full of blow, if you ponder WTF got in to yours.

sarah_t_s: With all the whining about crappy internet in the states I'd have thought YouTube would be dominated by Europeans & Asians... areas with a high percentage of broadband penetration.

The highest amount of content requests was from Brazil (Germany in second), while Germany tops the highest amount of individual items in the requests (Norway in second). Countries like China or Thailand just censor everything on their side and don't worry about actually taking 'offending' content down.

sarah_t_s: I will ponder WTF got in to my governments head, beside the dump truck full of blow, if you ponder WTF got in to yours.

Uh, math got into mine. 135 is more than 113. Thus, "The US tops the list of takedown requests" is not a true statement. Please let me know what's confusing you about this.

sprawl15: Quantumbunny: Funny how a US based company is contacted more by its own government...

I'd also bet the US has more YouTube users than any other... so I could all be a reasonable numbers game.

Hey hey, another person who didn't read the article.

Tis true, i didn't. Guess we're either more reasonable than I thought, or less litigious... Neither of which is logical.

\USA, USA, USA

Quantumbunny: Tis true, i didn't. Guess we're either more reasonable than I thought, or less litigious... Neither of which is logical.

If you take a look at the reasons for the takedown requests, it turns out the majority are court orders based on defamation. I'm not sure if that's just listing removals that Google complied with, since the total is a lot lower than previously listed, but I'm not surprised.

Canada, our secret plans to invade the United States and make every last one of you say "about" (like shout, not aboot like boot) the correct damn way. You just wait buddy boy.

sprawl15: Uh, math got into mine. 135 is more than 113. Thus, "The US tops the list of takedown requests" is not a true statement. Please let me know what's confusing you about this.

Okay, sure, "user data requests" aren't the same as "takedown requests". Fine. But the US is the most interested by far in what its citizens are doing online.

FuturePastNow

The US tops the list of takedown requests, of course. Funny how freedom isn't free.

Not only that but the top take-down request is to remove government sponsored violence.

If criminal cops are so rare how could this possibly be so common?
Come on car-whatever and the other boot lickers tell us how you're all good guys and there's just 1 bad apple out there.

FuturePastNow: sprawl15: Uh, math got into mine. 135 is more than 113. Thus, "The US tops the list of takedown requests" is not a true statement. Please let me know what's confusing you about this.

Okay, sure, "user data requests" aren't the same as "takedown requests". Fine. But the US is the most interested by far in what its citizens are doing online.

Beating out the UK, North Korea, China, the Middle East...

\USA, USA, USA!

FuturePastNow: Okay, sure, "user data requests" aren't the same as "takedown requests". Fine.

Again,
sprawl15: Quite the backpedal.

FuturePastNow: But the US is the most interested by far in what its citizens are doing online.

There's a lot of aspects to remember in this situation, one of which is that these numbers are not adjusted for population. The UK had 1,273 data requests but only has ~62 million citizens. That's .020 per thousand. The US had 5,950 requests and ~307 million citizens. That's .019 per thousand. France and Germany both are similar to our rate of data requests (France slightly higher, Germany slightly lower).

Then consider that requesting data through a private company is less authoritarian than simply gathering the data independently, something that most Asian countries do. China has one of the lowest rates of data requests, but that's hardly a sign of a respect for privacy in the government. Also consider that Google is based in the US and other countries would tend to have other routes to find data like going directly to ISPs, none of which would be reflected in these numbers.

OnlyM3: Not only that but the top take-down request is to remove government sponsored violence.

What in the fark are you smoking?

sprawl15: sarah_t_s: I will ponder WTF got in to my governments head, beside the dump truck full of blow, if you ponder WTF got in to yours.

Uh, math got into mine. 135 is more than 113. Thus, "The US tops the list of takedown requests" is not a true statement. Please let me know what's confusing you about this.

Either number is higher than 0, I have a problem with it being so. I am not entierly sure what you are biatching about, I take it your reading ability is substandard American and thus I am not wasting more of my time explaining what I said to you as though I were speaking to a 3 year old.

So the US has demanded google to take down the most videos of all other countries combined!? I'm not shocked.

sarah_t_s: I am not entierly sure what you are biatching about

Use your mouse wheel. Scroll up. Follow the conversation. It's not difficult.

sarah_t_s: Either number is higher than 0, I have a problem with it being so.

Cool story, bro. Shame that it doesn't have farkall to do with the conversation you jumped into. You're arguing against voices in your head again.

FarkedOver: So the US has demanded google to take down the most videos of all other countries combined!?

Is this thread just a stupidity magnet or something?

sprawl15: FarkedOver: So the US has demanded google to take down the most videos of all other countries combined!?

Is this thread just a stupidity magnet or something?

Nah just wanted to chap your ass further.

Yay Japan, you wonderfully wacky Nips. (new window)

I like that their entry about China basically says, "They won't let us tell anyone what they made us do."

I especially like the bit about the US that goes:

United States
We received a request from a local law enforcement agency to remove YouTube videos of police brutality, which we did not remove. Separately, we received requests from a different local law enforcement agency for removal of videos allegedly defaming law enforcement officials. We did not comply with those requests, which we have categorized in this Report as defamation requests.

Reading between the lines one gets something like "Hell no, you pigs" as a possible answer to the take-down requests for police brutality by small town sheriffs trying to throw around their weight.

I also must applaud Japan who somehow manged to issue no governmental take-down requests. Either Google just isn't as popular there or they have some really different cultural values.

On the sad side I find the amount of information disclosed by google to governments that is also in the report disconcerting.

FarkedOver: sprawl15: FarkedOver: So the US has demanded google to take down the most videos of all other countries combined!?

Is this thread just a stupidity magnet or something?

Nah just wanted to chap your ass further.

Great, now some jerk is going to post pictures of hot women in assless chaps. Thanks a lot

FuturePastNow: sprawl15: Uh, math got into mine. 135 is more than 113. Thus, "The US tops the list of takedown requests" is not a true statement. Please let me know what's confusing you about this.

Okay, sure, "user data requests" aren't the same as "takedown requests". Fine. But the US is the most interested by far in what its citizens are doing online.

Yeah as someone who has ventured down that wormhole of data snooping for legal authorities more than once and while contracting for other countries I can say you are woefully misinformed. We have free access to pretty much anything but a lot of shiat is blocked/monitored in other nations, not always by the government but a lot is by corporations with government consent.

Smeggy Smurf: FarkedOver: sprawl15: FarkedOver: So the US has demanded google to take down the most videos of all other countries combined!?

Is this thread just a stupidity magnet or something?

Nah just wanted to chap your ass further.

Great, now some jerk is going to post pictures of hot women in assless chaps. Thanks a lot

I'm a slave to peer pressure (and also a jerk);
NSFW (new window)

sprawl15: Is this thread just a stupidity magnet or something?

Yea. Pretty much since the second post. But I hope you feel real smart now because of your mad 'rithmetic skillz, yo.

Splinshints: I hope you feel real smart now because of your mad 'rithmetic skillz, yo.

Why, are you jealous? Don't worry, just keep at it and someday you too can understand three digit numbers. Keep your chin up, sparky!

sprawl15: Splinshints: I hope you feel real smart now because of your mad 'rithmetic skillz, yo.

Why, are you jealous? Don't worry, just keep at it and someday you too can understand three digit numbers. Keep your chin up, sparky!

The fact that there are any requests at all in the US is disgusting.

Your argument is invalid.

H31N0US: Your argument is invalid.

Please show me my argument you are disagreeing with.

sprawl15: Why, are you jealous? Don't worry, just keep at it and someday you too can understand three digit numbers. Keep your chin up, sparky!

You were doing better earlier. Now you're just phoning it in.

As cognizant as I am of how messed up the Japanese legal system is, and how huge the pressures for social conformity can be, I still have to give them props for seeming to be more dedicated to the ideals of freedom and liberty than, say, us USians. Too bad so many over there want to be more like us; someone ought to warn them where it'll lead :-/.

sarah_t_s: Quantumbunny:
I'd also bet the US has more YouTube users than any other... so I could all be a reasonable numbers game.

With all the whining about crappy internet in the states I'd have thought YouTube would be dominated by Europeans & Asians... areas with a high percentage of broadband penetration.

Lots of Japanese internetians are on Nico Nico Video. Most of the Japanese vids that you see on Youtube start off over there.

FuturePastNow: The US tops the list of takedown requests, of course. Funny how freedom isn't free.

The UK government asked Google to take down 135 YouTube videos for reasons of national security in the first half of this year


In total, the German police, government and courts asked for 583 YouTube videos to be removed - 322 of which contained hate speech.

In total the US courts, government and police asked for 113 videos to be taken down, one because it showed "government criticism".

sarah_t_s: sprawl15: sarah_t_s: I will ponder WTF got in to my governments head, beside the dump truck full of blow, if you ponder WTF got in to yours.

Uh, math got into mine. 135 is more than 113. Thus, "The US tops the list of takedown requests" is not a true statement. Please let me know what's confusing you about this.

Either number is higher than 0, I have a problem with it being so. I am not entierly sure what you are biatching about, I take it your reading ability is substandard American and thus I am not wasting more of my time explaining what I said to you as though I were speaking to a 3 year old.

The US had a higher total number of requests. Check the Country Detail section. For future reference, News articles are often misleading and inaccurate. Telling people that you're telling them about something when you're actually misleading them is a surprisingly effective way to get them not to look into it themselves.

Heron: The US had a higher total number of requests.

More than Brazil?

FuturePastNow: The US tops the list of takedown requests, of course. Funny how freedom isn't free.

Did you take a break from clubbing Bald Eagles to death and jizzing on Mom's Apple Pies to type that?

Heron: sarah_t_s: Quantumbunny:
I'd also bet the US has more YouTube users than any other... so I could all be a reasonable numbers game.

With all the whining about crappy internet in the states I'd have thought YouTube would be dominated by Europeans & Asians... areas with a high percentage of broadband penetration.

Lots of Japanese internetians are on Nico Nico Video. Most of the Japanese vids that you see on Youtube start off over there.

And relevant to this conversation--there have been takedown requests on Nico Nico, though usually for reasons of copyright--so yes, there are takedown requests, but they tend to focus on the more dominant video provider in Japan.

Loki-L: I also must applaud Japan who somehow manged to issue no governmental take-down requests. Either Google just isn't as popular there or they have some really different cultural values.

As far as I know, http://www.nicovideo.jp is huge over there. Don't know how it stacks up against YouTube in use. Do know that a bunch of their content gets reposted to YouTube by third parties.

sarah_t_s: sprawl15: FuturePastNow: Just making a joke, sugar.

"The UK government asked Google to take down 135 YouTube videos"

"In total the US courts, government and police asked for 113 videos to be taken down"

Quite the backpedal.

The correct number of videos either government should have asked to be removed is 0 (zero). I will ponder WTF got in to my governments head, beside the dump truck full of blow, if you ponder WTF got in to yours.

To be fair, that includes requests from local power drunk Andy and Barneys as well as requests from the Fed. I imagine something similar for the other countries. Not that either is right, but not recognizing that fact makes it seem much worse.

Awesome, NZ has less than ten removal requests, and because there's less than ten they will release neither the exact number, nor a breakdown of the requests.

And given the fact you can't even click the tab, it looks like zero user data requests.

Another step towards global lock down.

Instead of filtering the internet. I dunno, maybe FIX the problems so there's nothing to post? Naw, that'd mean taking responsibility, however it's much easier to make policing laws.