awww, he's gonna be so disappointed. I hear he's a huge John Cussack fan.

Zombie Tim Wakefield to the rescue

Having an ace have TJ prior to the season isn't the worst thing- look at the Cards.

/hard to call Lackey an ace though

Good riddance.

UNLEASH THE MOYER!

Lester and Beckett wonder who will step in as their new drinking buddy.

Damn, this sucks. I was counting on him to give Boston another crappy season next year. Whoever they bring in/up to replace him *has* to be better.

Boy, that new GM works like Clemenza!

Here is hoping the doctor is a Sox fan.

grinding_journalist: Having an ace have TJ prior to the season isn't the worst thing- look at the Cards.

/hard to call Lackey an ace though

Ace? I don't think he qualifies as a jack.


/jack-ass, maybe

Ben Cherington doin' work

Gunny Highway: Here is hoping the doctor is a Sox fan.

If he were a true Sox fan, he'd arrange for an "accidental" overdose on anesthetics.

idesofmarch: Gunny Highway: Here is hoping the doctor is a Sox fan.

If he were a true Sox fan, he'd arrange for an "accidental" overdose on anesthetics.

He's the Angels team doctor. So he'll fix em right up so he'll be as good as last year

i guess that explains why he was so bad this year. So Bostons gonn abe in the hunt with Yanks this year for another pitcher. prices going up a few million per pitcher now

Mouth-breathing redneck.

I get why Sox fans are happy about Lackey not pitching, but they seem to be missing the overall point that they do still have to pay him $15.25M next year, as well as 2013 and 2014.

Rex_Banner: Freakin Rican: i guess that explains why he was so bad this year. So Bostons gonn abe in the hunt with Yanks this year for another pitcher. prices going up a few million per pitcher now

I think it'll be funny to see the Yankees and Sox fighting over middle of the rotation pitchers while Pujols and Fielder wait endlessly for one of them to call

I would have to think that honestly neither of them (Fielder/Pujols) would expect either of them (Yankees/Red Sox) to be seriously interested. Yankees flat out have no need, and I can only see the Sox being interested if they plan on dropping Ortiz.

Yanks_RSJ: I get why Sox fans are happy about Lackey not pitching, but they seem to be missing the overall point that they do still have to pay him $15.25M next year, as well as 2013 and 2014.

Not if he gets a staff infection and dies

Publikwerks: Yanks_RSJ: I get why Sox fans are happy about Lackey not pitching, but they seem to be missing the overall point that they do still have to pay him $15.25M next year, as well as 2013 and 2014.

Not if he gets a staff infection and dies

LOL, thanks spellcheck.

Publikwerks: Not if he gets a staff infection and dies

why, has he been hanging around with Lindsay Lohan?

Yanks_RSJ: I get why Sox fans are happy about Lackey not pitching, but they seem to be missing the overall point that they do still have to pay him $15.25M next year, as well as 2013 and 2014.

And the Yankees will have to pay a comparable pitcher in AJ Burnett, who also had just as many wins as he did losses, $16.5M for the next two years.

The Bestest: Publikwerks: Not if he gets a staff infection and dies

why, has he been hanging around with Lindsay Lohan?

Hell, maybe he commit a felony. The Sox should rent him a suite in Vegas. He's bound to kill a hooker or somthing

Rex_Banner: Freakin Rican: i guess that explains why he was so bad this year. So Bostons gonn abe in the hunt with Yanks this year for another pitcher. prices going up a few million per pitcher now

I think it'll be funny to see the Yankees and Sox fighting over middle of the rotation pitchers while Pujols and Fielder wait endlessly for one of them to call

Neither team need a first baseman. Pujols will probably stay under The Arch (while Fielder will be at the Golden Arches).

LessO2: Yanks_RSJ: I get why Sox fans are happy about Lackey not pitching, but they seem to be missing the overall point that they do still have to pay him $15.25M next year, as well as 2013 and 2014.

And the Yankees will have to pay a comparable pitcher in AJ Burnett, who also had just as many wins as he did losses, $16.5M for the next two years.

Yeah, I know that. Again, two years is fewer than three, and the Yankees have an unlimited budget so it really doesn't matter.

If the same is also true for the Red Sox, I never want to hear any payroll complaints again. Which direction would you like to take this?

GimpyNip: I'm not paying him a penny. Sit the bum for his entire cOntract. Because he's paid so much, if healthy they'll be forced to play him. Here's hoping he has Carl Pavano's constitution

Hey good to see you around. I was wondering where you had been.

Hope everything is ok.

His ERA was lower after the allstar break. I say cut the tendon all the way through and see if it helps.

i dont see the yanks going after puljos/fielder either. i can see the cubs going after one of them. but hey you never know what will happen. i do do agree that the red sox /yanks will be fighting over middle of the rotation pitchers. just no one really good out there this year. although i think anyone would be an improvement over AJ.

Yanks_RSJ: I get why Sox fans are happy about Lackey not pitching, but they seem to be missing the overall point that they do still have to pay him $15.25M next year, as well as 2013 and 2014.

I don't have to pay him sh*t. I could argue that feces is valid currency though, considering that's what we're getting in return.

The story on the radio up here is all about how they need to shake up the whole system and the new GM doesn't seem inclined to do that. That's retarded. When they were good, the Socks were really good this year. EVERY facet of their game failed simultaneously during the collapse, and there's only one explanation for something like that. Conditioning. The pitching staff got FAT during the season for Christ's sake, that's a good indication of how much physical prep they were putting in.

Bodies failed, and they failed because of arrogance. They didn't think they needed the prep, and the coaching and leadership plainly wasn't forcing them to go all out like they should have been. The result is their bodies were breaking down, and when the flesh starts to go, the spirit follows. Bad attitudes abound and suddenly you've gone from a near mathematical impossibility of missing the post-season, to being eliminated.

Yanks_RSJ: LessO2: Yanks_RSJ: I get why Sox fans are happy about Lackey not pitching, but they seem to be missing the overall point that they do still have to pay him $15.25M next year, as well as 2013 and 2014.

And the Yankees will have to pay a comparable pitcher in AJ Burnett, who also had just as many wins as he did losses, $16.5M for the next two years.

Yeah, I know that. Again, two years is fewer than three, and the Yankees have an unlimited budget so it really doesn't matter.

If the same is also true for the Red Sox, I never want to hear any payroll complaints again. Which direction would you like to take this?

Well, if you want to get technical, the Red Sox likely won't pay him in 2012 as insurance will probably pay Lackey's salary in 2012.

As for the "direction" I want to take this, it's not about me. Try not to get angry at someone for making a point.

I wonder how soon the Boston Globe will do a hit piece on Lackey's surgery, as a favor for Red Sox ownership. The Red Sox miss the playoffs and all of a sudden the owners act bad enough to make you think the Yawkeys still own the team.

There's also apparently an "eff you" clause in Lackey's contract. From the Boston Globe...

"The surgery, which usually takes a year to recover from, will trigger a contract clause that gives the Red Sox an option on Lackey for 2015 at the major league minimum."

LessO2: Well, if you want to get technical, the Red Sox likely won't pay him in 2012 as insurance will probably pay Lackey's salary in 2012.

Possibly SOME of his contract will be covered by insurance, although it's possible that his history of elbow injuries would have made it difficult to get him insured in the first place. I haven't seen anything definitive on that.

There is a clause in his contract that gives the Red Sox a 2015 option on Lackey at the major league minimum if he suffers a major elbow injury, which does decrease the annual value of the contract somewhat, thus decreasing their luxury tax figure, so you've got that going for you.

FriarReb98: The Bestest: I would have to think that honestly neither of them (Fielder/Pujols) would expect either of them (Yankees/Red Sox) to be seriously interested. Yankees flat out have no need, and I can only see the Sox being interested if they plan on dropping Ortiz.

This. Prince could easily fill Papi's shoes if Papi leaves.

Though I will say this: I'm pretty sure Papi will figure out quickly wherever he goes how good he has it here. People think of him as a god still, and he has protection in the lineup. He won't have that protection elsewhere, even if he did go to replace the other four or five DH's the Yankees have.

Yeah, he'll never bat in front of anyone better than Crawford or Lowrie on another team.

Hopefully, when he goes in, they cut off his left nut by accident. Leaving your wife while she's sick is disgusting.

See this is what happens when you divorce you wife when she's going through cancer treatments.

/karma's a biatch

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. *snerk* Buwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.


/Too bad they couldn't get the Red Sux to take Scott Kazimir too

Rex_Banner: Freakin Rican: i guess that explains why he was so bad this year. So Bostons gonn abe in the hunt with Yanks this year for another pitcher. prices going up a few million per pitcher now

I think it'll be funny to see the Yankees and Sox fighting over middle of the rotation pitchers while Pujols and Fielder wait endlessly for one of them to call


Not really.
rotation is
Beckett
Lester
Bucholtz
Dice-K (maybe)
Bedard

All you're looking for is #4-5 guy assuming Dice-K isn't coming back (and you probably look for that even if he is).

There are always teams looking to unload players...so it doesn't have to happen in free agency in the off season. If they need a starter, they'll find one.

Yanks_RSJ: I get why Sox fans are happy about Lackey not pitching, but they seem to be missing the overall point that they do still have to pay him $15.25M next year, as well as 2013 and 2014.

From what I've heard....there is a clause in his Lackey's contract that if he misses significant time with an arm injury (say for tommy john), the sox get him for an extra year at veteran league minimum. (which is like $500,000)...So yes, the red sox have to eat his $15 mil from 2012, but if he comes back and pitches well they can still keep him for 3 years (and they are out is an extra $500,000; ).

Basically it's a ploy to differ his pitching for a year. He was dealing with a divorce, his wife's cancer, pitching like crap, fried-chicken-gate, and pitching like crap (yes I know I said bad pitching twice....it was that bad). His value to any team is at an all time low. If the sox tried to trade him theyd have to eat 70-80% or more of his contract.

Now, he's not coming back until 2013...hopefully he'll get his mind and body in the right place and come back better and have 3 good years. If not, you ship him out and hope to only lose 1/2 the money.

Henry Holland: Hahahahahahahahahahaha. *snerk* Buwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

so hey, how's that Mike Napoli trade workin out?

mrtoadswildride: Not really.
rotation is
Beckett
Lester
Bucholtz
Dice-K (maybe)
Bedard

Beckett and Bedard aren't even good for a whole season between themselves. You need at least 7 starters on that team.

The Bestest: Henry Holland: Hahahahahahahahahahaha. *snerk* Buwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

so hey, how's that Mike Napoli trade workin out?

It worked out perfectly based on Mike Scioscia's idiotic logic. Who needs a catcher who can hit when you can have the worst offensive catching tandem in the history of baseball that knows how to "handle a pitching staff"??

mrtoadswildride: Beckett
Lester
Bucholtz
Dice-K (maybe)
Bedard

I dont think Bedard is around next year. Wasnt he signed for this past season only?

Dice-K? Really?

bhcompy: mrtoadswildride: Not really.
rotation is
Beckett
Lester
Bucholtz
Dice-K (maybe)
Bedard

Beckett and Bedard aren't even good for a whole season between themselves. You need at least 7 starters on that team.

And Bedard is a free agent anyway.

Yanks_RSJ: The Bestest: Henry Holland: Hahahahahahahahahahaha. *snerk* Buwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

so hey, how's that Mike Napoli trade workin out?

It worked out perfectly based on Mike Scioscia's idiotic logic. Who needs a catcher who can hit when you can have the worst offensive catching tandem in the history of baseball that knows how to "handle a pitching staff"??

Hey, I don't care what anyone says, if you have a chance to go get Vernon Wells when he's locked up for four years at just $86 million, you can't pass that up.

Henry Holland: Hahahahahahahahahahaha. *snerk* Buwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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/Too bad they couldn't get the Red Sux to take Scott Kazimir too

Oh God not Kazmir. Can't believe the Rays were able to dump him on you guys.

/Seemed to only pitch well against the Red Sox though.

Lackey was great as an Angel, so I thank him and wish him well.
/he never pitched well in Fenway, except for one game in 2008

Super Chronic: Yanks_RSJ: The Bestest: Henry Holland: Hahahahahahahahahahaha. *snerk* Buwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

so hey, how's that Mike Napoli trade workin out?

It worked out perfectly based on Mike Scioscia's idiotic logic. Who needs a catcher who can hit when you can have the worst offensive catching tandem in the history of baseball that knows how to "handle a pitching staff"??

Hey, I don't care what anyone says, if you have a chance to go get Vernon Wells when he's locked up for four years at just $86 million, you can't pass that up.

the scary thing is that this will not dissuade some other GM from taking on a horrible contract in the future. no one in their right mind could have thought that VW was going to be anywhere close to worth his contract, yet sure enough someone actually traded for him.