What his ground crew may have looked like while assisting him in entering his aircraft.

RIP, hero.

Yes but was he able to screw in a lightbulb by himself?

Did he have any kids or does he wait for the swelling to go down?


/RIP Hero.

I'm glad I met some of these guys over the years.

Today's heroes seem to be the product of PR firms too often.

probesport: Yes but was he able to screw in a lightbulb by himself?

He'll get that right in the how's your father, top-hole.

Not a lot of credit for his wing gunners, "Louie Lefty" and "Reginald Righty". Here they are limbering up before taking on the Luftwaffe.

I wish we would've ceded Poland to Germany from the beginning. That would've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Too bad the Poles were going through a period of surging nationalism, or they might have saved the world a lot of bloodshed.

The Polish submarine crews experienced far less success.

How many did it take to fly a Spitfire?

Just two, one to operate the controls and one to turn the propeller

Sad.
When I die ill leave nothing behind but a few crusty towels and an undonateable liver.

spentmiles: I wish we would've ceded Poland to Germany from the beginning. That would've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Too bad the Poles were going through a period of surging nationalism, or they might have saved the world a lot of bloodshed.

Holy crap, that's some...I don't even....WOW! Did you make that up, or is that white-supremacist derp? Or pacifist derp? Whatever, it's some third-level shiat, right there.

The_Sponge: Did he land in France when the battle was over?

I'm surprised he wasn't buried with the rest of the survivors.

mbillips: spentmiles: I wish we would've ceded Poland to Germany from the beginning. That would've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Too bad the Poles were going through a period of surging nationalism, or they might have saved the world a lot of bloodshed.

Holy crap, that's some...I don't even....WOW! Did you make that up, or is that white-supremacist derp? Or pacifist derp? Whatever, it's some third-level shiat, right there.

No, it's not. I'm an amateur history buff and I've research WWII extensively. On August 25, 1939, Britain and Poland signed a Mutual Assistance Treaty. Britain, of course, didn't need Poland's assistance, so the mutual aspect is moot. So, Britain basically doomed the world by throwing their support around a country that was neither defensible nor profitable. And once Britain put her arms around Poland, the Polish people started parades to celebrate themselves. If Britain would've let Germany absorb Poland, thus satiating Hitler's vision of European expansion, World War Two would've never happened. Britain was foolish but Poland doomed us all by not surrendering.

spentmiles: mbillips: spentmiles: I wish we would've ceded Poland to Germany from the beginning. That would've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Too bad the Poles were going through a period of surging nationalism, or they might have saved the world a lot of bloodshed.

Holy crap, that's some...I don't even....WOW! Did you make that up, or is that white-supremacist derp? Or pacifist derp? Whatever, it's some third-level shiat, right there.

No, it's not. I'm an amateur history buff and I've research WWII extensively. On August 25, 1939, Britain and Poland signed a Mutual Assistance Treaty. Britain, of course, didn't need Poland's assistance, so the mutual aspect is moot. So, Britain basically doomed the world by throwing their support around a country that was neither defensible nor profitable. And once Britain put her arms around Poland, the Polish people started parades to celebrate themselves. If Britain would've let Germany absorb Poland, thus satiating Hitler's vision of European expansion, World War Two would've never happened. Britain was foolish but Poland doomed us all by not surrendering.

Oddly enough, that was the prevailing argument for the Sudetenland. Ask the Czechs how that worked out.

/feeding the troll :(

Well, Britain didn't give two shiats about Poland. They signed the treaty so they could have reason to go to war against Germany.

I mean, if Britain cared about Poland, they would've had to declare war against the Soviet Union as well, since they invade Poland at the same time from the east. And later, they took the whole country and Britain didn't give a fark.

On a related note, the people in eastern Poland must have been the worst farked people in all WWII.

1939 "Aaaargh, the Russians!"
1941 "Aaaargh, the Germans!"
1944 "Aaaargh, the Russians again!"

Dammit, subby, now I want pierogies.

Trail Mix: Dammit, subby, now I want pierogies.

Kielbasa and Sauerkraut in a crock pot all day.

/and not that store-bought crap

spentmiles: mbillips: spentmiles: I wish we would've ceded Poland to Germany from the beginning. That would've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Too bad the Poles were going through a period of surging nationalism, or they might have saved the world a lot of bloodshed.

Holy crap, that's some...I don't even....WOW! Did you make that up, or is that white-supremacist derp? Or pacifist derp? Whatever, it's some third-level shiat, right there.

No, it's not. I'm an amateur history buff and I've research WWII extensively. On August 25, 1939, Britain and Poland signed a Mutual Assistance Treaty. Britain, of course, didn't need Poland's assistance, so the mutual aspect is moot. So, Britain basically doomed the world by throwing their support around a country that was neither defensible nor profitable. And once Britain put her arms around Poland, the Polish people started parades to celebrate themselves. If Britain would've let Germany absorb Poland, thus satiating Hitler's vision of European expansion, World War Two would've never happened. Britain was foolish but Poland doomed us all by not surrendering.

I call bullshiat on your "amateur history buff" and "extensive WWII research". Poland wasn't the last stop for German expansion, it was just the step that triggered war. Hitler wasn't going to stop expanding once he took Poland. The Low Countries were on his list as well, along with the parts of Germany given to France after WWI. If you think he would have stopped with Poland you haven't done nearly as much research as you claim you have.

spentmiles: mbillips: spentmiles: I wish we would've ceded Poland to Germany from the beginning. That would've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Too bad the Poles were going through a period of surging nationalism, or they might have saved the world a lot of bloodshed.

Holy crap, that's some...I don't even....WOW! Did you make that up, or is that white-supremacist derp? Or pacifist derp? Whatever, it's some third-level shiat, right there.

No, it's not. I'm an amateur history buff and I've research WWII extensively. On August 25, 1939, Britain and Poland signed a Mutual Assistance Treaty. Britain, of course, didn't need Poland's assistance, so the mutual aspect is moot. So, Britain basically doomed the world by throwing their support around a country that was neither defensible nor profitable. And once Britain put her arms around Poland, the Polish people started parades to celebrate themselves. If Britain would've let Germany absorb Poland, thus satiating Hitler's vision of European expansion, World War Two would've never happened. Britain was foolish but Poland doomed us all by not surrendering.

Hmmmmmmmmm...mmmm..hmmmmm

Your ideas, they are intriguing to me..

spentmiles: mbillips: spentmiles: I wish we would've ceded Poland to Germany from the beginning. That would've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Too bad the Poles were going through a period of surging nationalism, or they might have saved the world a lot of bloodshed.

Holy crap, that's some...I don't even....WOW! Did you make that up, or is that white-supremacist derp? Or pacifist derp? Whatever, it's some third-level shiat, right there.

No, it's not. I'm an amateur history buff and I've research WWII extensively. On August 25, 1939, Britain and Poland signed a Mutual Assistance Treaty. Britain, of course, didn't need Poland's assistance, so the mutual aspect is moot. So, Britain basically doomed the world by throwing their support around a country that was neither defensible nor profitable. And once Britain put her arms around Poland, the Polish people started parades to celebrate themselves. If Britain would've let Germany absorb Poland, thus satiating Hitler's vision of European expansion, World War Two would've never happened. Britain was foolish but Poland doomed us all by not surrendering.

Meh. 3/10, and I only go that high because you actually got some bites.

Your original post was pretty good, though. 7/10 on that one.

spentmiles: mbillips: spentmiles: I wish we would've ceded Poland to Germany from the beginning. That would've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Too bad the Poles were going through a period of surging nationalism, or they might have saved the world a lot of bloodshed.

Holy crap, that's some...I don't even....WOW! Did you make that up, or is that white-supremacist derp? Or pacifist derp? Whatever, it's some third-level shiat, right there.

No, it's not. I'm an amateur history buff and I've research WWII extensively. On August 25, 1939, Britain and Poland signed a Mutual Assistance Treaty. Britain, of course, didn't need Poland's assistance, so the mutual aspect is moot. So, Britain basically doomed the world by throwing their support around a country that was neither defensible nor profitable. And once Britain put her arms around Poland, the Polish people started parades to celebrate themselves. If Britain would've let Germany absorb Poland, thus satiating Hitler's vision of European expansion, World War Two would've never happened. Britain was foolish but Poland doomed us all by not surrendering.

You're not a very smart or well-read amateur history buff. 1. Hitler wanted to invade Russia from the beginning; Czechoslovakia and Poland were stepping stones. Lebensraum and anti-Communism and that. 2. The problem wasn't Poland (there was nothing anyone could do by that point), it was Czechoslovakia. If Britain and France had stood up to Hitler at Munich, he would have been deposed in a coup (the German generals were all set to go with that, because they knew they didn't have the army to take the Sudetenland mountain fortresses).

Give Hitler Poland, and he gets to fight Russia without Britain and France getting involved, and we're ALL heiling the Fuehrer by 1950.

Germany is the economic powerhouse that is propping up the entire European Union right now. Germany owns the entire continent and they are doing a great job of keeping the entire region from imploding. If you don't think Europe would've been better off under Germany's scepter, then you are not a student of history, but a simpleton nationalist who waves a flag at monsters under your bed.

spentmiles: If you don't think Europe would've been better off under Germany's scepter, then you are not a student of history,

...or a Jew.

In before the "this guy is not a hero, but a murderer" derp brigade

spentmiles: Germany is the economic powerhouse that is propping up the entire European Union right now. Germany owns the entire continent and they are doing a great job of keeping the entire region from imploding. If you don't think Europe would've been better off under Germany's scepter, then you are not a student of history, but a simpleton nationalist who waves a flag at monsters under your bed.

AHA! White supremacist. Knew it. Nice use of "Germany" as a substitute for "Nazi."

Gaylord Fister: Well, Britain didn't give two shiats about Poland. They signed the treaty so they could have reason to go to war against Germany.

I mean, if Britain cared about Poland, they would've had to declare war against the Soviet Union as well, since they invade Poland at the same time from the east. And later, they took the whole country and Britain didn't give a fark.

On a related note, the people in eastern Poland must have been the worst farked people in all WWII.

1939 "Aaaargh, the Russians!"
1941 "Aaaargh, the Germans!"
1944 "Aaaargh, the Russians again!"

It was actually a couple of weeks later and under the pretense of protecting ethnic Russians in eastern Poland, but yeah. Poland was simply a tripwire, much like our troops in South Korea who by nearly all accounts will be lambs to the slaughter if the shiat goes down. They're only there to help hold off the DPRK a week or so until the ROKs can gear up and we can move more into the theater.

RIP

Was he the one responsible for Putting a screen door on the first polish submarine?

My hat goes off to Polish submariners. They signed up knowing that there was roughly a 100% chance they would die the first time the sub went under.

That is real bravery.

spentmiles: I wish we would've ceded Poland to Germany from the beginning. That would've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Too bad the Poles were going through a period of surging nationalism, or they might have saved the world a lot of bloodshed.

Yeah, 'cause Hitler surely would've been sated after Poland.

/Pierogi is the plural.

the trick to making a good potato perogie is to over season your mashed potatoes.

video man: Trivia Question:

At the height of German power in WWII, Germany had reabsorbed all the former European lands that were under the jurisdiction of the pre-WWI German Empire, with one exception.

What is that exception?

Huh. Nazi Germany covered a much bigger chunk of the map. Some island(s) in the North Sea or Baltic?

bhcompy: In before the "this guy is not a hero, but a murderer" derp brigade


what do you mean by that? I wouldn't go so far as to call him a murderer, but he certainly was a blood thirsty mercenary with nothing but revenge on his mind.

/I suppose that makes him a murderer
//pacifist of Polish descent
///not proud

spentmiles: mbillips: spentmiles: I wish we would've ceded Poland to Germany from the beginning. That would've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Too bad the Poles were going through a period of surging nationalism, or they might have saved the world a lot of bloodshed.

Holy crap, that's some...I don't even....WOW! Did you make that up, or is that white-supremacist derp? Or pacifist derp? Whatever, it's some third-level shiat, right there.

No, it's not. I'm an amateur history buff and I've research WWII extensively. On August 25, 1939, Britain and Poland signed a Mutual Assistance Treaty. Britain, of course, didn't need Poland's assistance, so the mutual aspect is moot. So, Britain basically doomed the world by throwing their support around a country that was neither defensible nor profitable. And once Britain put her arms around Poland, the Polish people started parades to celebrate themselves. If Britain would've let Germany absorb Poland, thus satiating Hitler's vision of European expansion, World War Two would've never happened. Britain was foolish but Poland doomed us all by not surrendering.

I disagree. Hitler would have attacked Russia eventually and the Japanese would have attacked pear harbor eventually.

So World War2 would have occurred, possibly a few years into the 40's but in the opinion of this farker it would have occurred.

spentmiles: mbillips: spentmiles: I wish we would've ceded Poland to Germany from the beginning. That would've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Too bad the Poles were going through a period of surging nationalism, or they might have saved the world a lot of bloodshed.

Holy crap, that's some...I don't even....WOW! Did you make that up, or is that white-supremacist derp? Or pacifist derp? Whatever, it's some third-level shiat, right there.

No, it's not. I'm an amateur history buff and I've research WWII extensively. On August 25, 1939, Britain and Poland signed a Mutual Assistance Treaty. Britain, of course, didn't need Poland's assistance, so the mutual aspect is moot. So, Britain basically doomed the world by throwing their support around a country that was neither defensible nor profitable. And once Britain put her arms around Poland, the Polish people started parades to celebrate themselves. If Britain would've let Germany absorb Poland, thus satiating Hitler's vision of European expansion, World War Two would've never happened. Britain was foolish but Poland doomed us all by not surrendering.

I am going to assume that you are mentally retarded, and end the conversation there...

video man: Trivia Question:

At the height of German power in WWII, Germany had reabsorbed all the former European lands that were under the jurisdiction of the pre-WWI German Empire, with one exception.

What is that exception?

Your mom.

Seriously, though, good question. I thought that was basically pre-WW2 Germany plus what they carved out to make Poland after WW1, and they sure as hell took all that. Unless you're talking about a slight border change with Switzerland or something, I can't think of it.

"Repeat please"

mbillips: video man: Trivia Question:

At the height of German power in WWII, Germany had reabsorbed all the former European lands that were under the jurisdiction of the pre-WWI German Empire, with one exception.

What is that exception?

Huh. Nazi Germany covered a much bigger chunk of the map. Some island(s) in the North Sea or Baltic?

German South-West Afrika (which became Namibia)?

You could have at least spelled it right, subby. Pierogies.

"Galumpkis" would have made a better headline than pierogies, but I guess they aren't as well known.

My aunt used to live beside a WWII vet (this was in the 1970's in Belleville, Ontario) who had flown in the Battle for Britain. I was young and I wished I had asked better questions than "how many people did you kill...was it fun...did you see the airplane blow up when you shot it". He was missing his legs a little above the knee. Apparently lost during the battle. It must have terrifying to go through that.

crap. i read it wrong.

qorkfiend: spentmiles: If you don't think Europe would've been better off under Germany's scepter, then you are not a student of history,

...or a Jew.

Isn't it all there fault? They hid all that money.

That girl Anne was very suspicious too, hiding in attics and closets.