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2011-10-26 10:13:37 AM
I am temporarily unable to "like" the story since the link is fubar'd.
 
2011-10-26 10:13:48 AM
www.blogodisea.com

Problem solved.
 
2011-10-26 10:14:08 AM
Like
 
2011-10-26 10:14:37 AM
Site's web formatting, don't [LIKE].
 
2011-10-26 10:16:56 AM
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[DISLIKE]
 
2011-10-26 10:17:36 AM
I got demoted at work because of posts on Facebook, and they had conferences with all coworkers who commented on them. One post wasn't work related at all, merely informing people of my distaste for mornings. One coworkers conference was merely for the fact of "liking" that post.

/csb
//not really
///don't post anything about your work on facebook.
////for reals
// mo fackin' SLASHIES!!
 
2011-10-26 10:19:17 AM

FTA:

Taiwanese man sues after Facebook 'like' button click
Oct.26, 2011 in Taiwan

Proving yet again that the idiotic cultural concept of 'saving face at all costs' and defamation are dangerously incompatible, the latest legal ridiculousness to come out of Taiwan is a defamation lawsuit that revolves around someone clicking a Facebook 'like' button.

Featured on hundreds of millions of websites, the Facebook's 'like' button allows users to publicly recommend content they agree with and/or support.

Members can 'like' any page on the internet that features a like button, including content published on Facebook itself.

Here in Taiwan, one particular man has decided that liking something on Facebook is tantamount to defamation. So infuriated by the catastrophic loss of face this has caused him, Hu Jing-an has now taken a Facebook user to court over the matter.

Here we go again...

So the story goes, Hu (photo right) used to run a shoe store called 'Bad Enough Hall' and also started 'Roll Magazine' two years ago.

Hu is no longer the owner of Bad Enough Hall and his magazine went bankrupt 'due to poor financial management'.

According to former employees of the Bad Enough Hall shoestore, Hu still owes some of them unpaid salaries. Frustrated at not being paid, a former employee of Hu's named Emily complained on Facebook in August last year about her situation.

Emily wrote,

How come everyone got their May salary except for me?

Are you playing me for a fool?!


A co-worker at the time called Eric saw the post and chimed in with

Wow, the chamber pot really stinks! Go to hell!


Evidently, despite not making much sense accusing one's chamber pot of really stinking is an insult of the highest order in Taiwan and Hu, furious at the gargantuan and irreversible loss of face Eric's comments caused him, filed a defamation lawsuit against him.

Due to the nature of Facebook and Emily's original post being a public discussion, the content was shared on the Facebook network by its members. One such member, a woman surnamed Hsu, happened to click the 'like' button for Eric's post.

Roughly a year after Hsu clicked like on Facebook, both Eric and Hsu received a court summons to answer to a case against them. Not knowing what the matter was about, it was until the case started last month that the two defendants came to realise they were being sued for defamation by Hu.

Eric was being sued for making the chamber pot comment and Hsu for clicking the 'like' button on Eric's comment.

Despite the obvious frivolous nature of including Hsu in the defamation suit against Eric (not withstanding that not being paid should be a relatively easy matter to prove), Hu's lawyers have argued that

Facebook users sharing other's inappropriate comments, which in turn leads to the comments receiving a bigger audience could still face civil lawsuits and compensation claims.


Of course being Taiwan, this is a perfectly reasonable argument to make. I mean what, just days ago a judge in Taoyuan ruled that wedding engagements are legally binding and who could forget the jail sentence handed down to the Taiwanese blogger for complaining about salty noodles?

Although it's pretty obvious they won't, what seriously needs to be considered here are the greater ramifications of ruling in Hu's favour. Can you imagine a judge ruling that clicking Facebook's like button is tantamount to defamation?

Some content receives hundreds of thousands, if not millions of likes and what, if some precious Taiwanese person decides its defamation they'll be able to cite Hu's case and roll out the lawsuits?

One interesting fact to note is that as ridiculous as this defamation accusation against Hsu sounds, Hu could very well just be fishing for funds.

Not surprisingly, Hu is currently being criminally investigated for his role in a credit card fraud case earlier this year allegedly involving '$400 million TWD' ($13.2 million USD).

Perhaps Hu is getting worried about this case and the possibility that along with jail time, he might have to pay back any money he fraudulently gained. What better way then to start the payback fund with a lawsuit against Facebook users...

Either that or Hu is/was worried that former employees complaining about not being paid probably wasn't going to help his chances in getting off the hook for credit card fraud.

Moral of the story: Don't rip off your former employees and commit credit card fraud?

Hu's defamation case is currently being heard down in Kaohsiung and being Taiwan could quite possibly at this stage go either way. Why Taiwanese judges don't just throw these kind of ridiculous cases out of court before they gain traction is beyond me but defamation is clearly becoming a large problem at large for Taiwanese society.

By all means, if you think you've got a defamation case against someone then do what you think is necessary but suing someone because they 'liked' something?!

Hu Jing-an, for wasting the courts time with your frivolous nonsense, you sir leave me with no other choice then to officially declare your chamber pot as the stinkiest in Taiwan.

Do you hear me?! The stinkiest!


Source - Apple Daily (English)
 
2011-10-26 10:22:40 AM
Yeah, but the Taiwanese Animation is more entertaining.
 
2011-10-26 10:23:05 AM
1. They still use chamber pots in Taiwan?? Should we just go back to calling it Formosa?

2. People still use facebook, and they imagine that it isn't publicly readable somehow?
 
2011-10-26 10:23:07 AM
Hey Taiwan

i.qkme.me
 
2011-10-26 10:24:38 AM
That guy played first base, right?
 
2011-10-26 10:25:04 AM
Eleven hours in a tin can, Lord there's got to be a better way....

Hu are you? Are you, Hu Hu! Hu Hu!
Tell me who the fark is Hu... are you? Hu Hu! Hu Hu!

/Can't get it out of my mind. Please, make it stop!
 
2011-10-26 10:25:44 AM
FB needs a UFIA button


and frivolous case is...well, you guess...
 
2011-10-26 10:27:50 AM
Claude Ballse: Yeah, but the Taiwanese Animation is more entertaining.

Uh oh. I accidentally hit "Like" on the YouTube video.
 
2011-10-26 10:29:22 AM
But, MOM! They're making fun of me on the internet!
 
2011-10-26 10:30:58 AM
Snarfangel
Claude Ballse: Yeah, but the Taiwanese Animation is more entertaining.

Uh oh. I accidentally hit "Like" on the YouTube video.


I'LL BE SEEING YOUR ASS IN COURT! (new window)
 
2011-10-26 10:34:17 AM
So this Chinaman doesn't have any face losing problem with not paying his debts but gets all butthurt over some social media comment? What a rich and nuanced culture those people have.
 
2011-10-26 10:38:28 AM
Behoooooooold, the power of FARK

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/soooo unfriended
 
2011-10-26 10:43:22 AM
The article seems to have been written from a rather stereotypical viewpoint.
 
2011-10-26 10:44:04 AM
Bacontastesgood:
2. People still use facebook, and they imagine that it isn't publicly readable somehow?


This. In all of the time people spend complaining about new Facebook, you'd think they would acquaint themselves with the new security settings each time.

/Public profiles. You turn those off.
 
2011-10-26 10:47:18 AM
t0.gstatic.com
 
2011-10-26 10:49:15 AM
farked
 
2011-10-26 10:51:11 AM
tl:dr
 
2011-10-26 10:52:33 AM
Claude Ballse: I'LL BE SEEING YOUR ASS IN COURT! (new window)

Nuuuuuu! 80's flashbacks!
 
2011-10-26 10:53:47 AM
Hitting the "like" button does republish the comment. Take this off fb, if you republish someones defamatory comments about someone else are you liable?

/ianal
 
2011-10-26 10:56:09 AM
So couldn't he open up defamation lawsuits to all of the news agencies propagating this story across the world?

When will morons understand that by doing this kind of shiat, all you do is make your asinine actions known to the entire world? Before it would've been a single comment that would've disappeared into the comment oblivion within half an hour, now it's a news story in multiple countries.
 
2011-10-26 11:06:25 AM
Rich Cream: That guy played first base, right?
Right.

He also wrote the book of love and let the dogs out.
 
2011-10-26 11:08:58 AM
Witchyman: Like

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2011-10-26 11:11:46 AM
@Hu Jing-an you are a complete and utter farkwit. Go ahead and sue me you precious little asshole.
 
2011-10-26 11:14:40 AM
Ah...another Barracuda warning for "PORN". I gotta stop reading Fark at work.
 
2011-10-26 11:21:37 AM
BarbadoSlim: So this Chinaman doesn't have any face losing problem with not paying his debts but gets all butthurt over some social media comment? What a rich and nuanced culture those people have.

The 1930s called. They want their epithet back when you're done with it, pops.

/gets off your lawn, before you set your slave on me
 
2011-10-26 11:24:41 AM
gweilo8888: BarbadoSlim: So this Chinaman doesn't have any face losing problem with not paying his debts but gets all butthurt over some social media comment? What a rich and nuanced culture those people have.

The 1930s called. They want their epithet back when you're done with it, pops.

/gets off your lawn, before you set your slave on me


I prefer "celestials"

/had celestial food last night.
 
2011-10-26 11:26:55 AM
This is not helping my prejudicial view that Taiwan is an island full of pussies and girly men.
 
2011-10-26 11:30:47 AM
We had 15 jr. high kids given 1-day ISS for "liking" the story that a fight was going to take place the next day at school
 
2011-10-26 11:32:07 AM
Dayglo Brown: Rich Cream: That guy played first base, right?
Right.

He also wrote the book of love and let the dogs out.


And he put the bomp In the bomp bah bomp bah bomp
 
2011-10-26 11:32:23 AM
To be fair to Hu, his chamber pot is really clean and has the faint smell of lemons.

I have though heard his feet stink and he likes to eat kittens.
 
2011-10-26 11:33:25 AM
'Like' a Facebook post, get sued.

Don't 'like' a Facebook post, get beat up by your ex. Link (new window)

What to do, what to do...
 
2011-10-26 11:45:56 AM
Oct. 24 (US) --American Society of Litigation Counselors (Ticker: ASSLIC) frivolous case exports rose more than expected last month - a sign shipments withstood weakening global growth before the TWD (New Taiwan Dollar) climbed to a postwar high that prompted Taiwan officials to pledge "decisive" steps today to monitor its performance.

Shipments increased 2.4 percent in September from a year earlier as demand for personal responsibilty continues to slip. The median estimate of 26 economists surveyed was for a 1 percent increase after a 2.8 percent gain in August. The US posted a trade surplus of 300 billion twd ($3.9 billion).

Exports have surged as companies including American Society of Litigation Counselors increased production after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami damaged offices and caused power shortages. Taiwanese Finance Minister Isu Yu and Chief Secretary Isay Phyuck It both signaled that they are ready to lend support in the markets to minimize disruptions should demand slow.
 
2011-10-26 12:24:43 PM
Big Man On Campus: FTA:

Taiwanese man sues after Facebook 'like' button click
Oct.26, 2011 in Taiwan

Proving yet again that the idiotic cultural concept of 'saving face at all costs' and defamation are dangerously incompatible, the latest legal ridiculousness to come out of Taiwan is a defamation lawsuit that revolves around someone clicking a Facebook 'like' button.

Featured on hundreds of millions of websites, the Facebook's 'like' button allows users to publicly recommend content they agree with and/or support.

Members can 'like' any page on the internet that features a like button, including content published on Facebook itself.

Here in Taiwan, one particular man has decided that liking something on Facebook is tantamount to defamation. So infuriated by the catastrophic loss of face this has caused him, Hu Jing-an has now taken a Facebook user to court over the matter.

Here we go again...

So the story goes, Hu (photo right) used to run a shoe store called 'Bad Enough Hall' and also started 'Roll Magazine' two years ago.

Hu is no longer the owner of Bad Enough Hall and his magazine went bankrupt 'due to poor financial management'.

According to former employees of the Bad Enough Hall shoestore, Hu still owes some of them unpaid salaries. Frustrated at not being paid, a former employee of Hu's named Emily complained on Facebook in August last year about her situation.

Emily wrote,

How come everyone got their May salary except for me?

Are you playing me for a fool?!


A co-worker at the time called Eric saw the post and chimed in with

Wow, the chamber pot really stinks! Go to hell!


Evidently, despite not making much sense accusing one's chamber pot of really stinking is an insult of the highest order in Taiwan and Hu, furious at the gargantuan and irreversible loss of face Eric's comments caused him, filed a defamation lawsuit against him.

Due to the nature of Facebook and Emily's original post being a public discussion, the content was shared on the Facebook network by its members. One such member, a woman surnamed Hsu, happened to click the 'like' button for Eric's post.

Roughly a year after Hsu clicked like on Facebook, both Eric and Hsu received a court summons to answer to a case against them. Not knowing what the matter was about, it was until the case started last month that the two defendants came to realise they were being sued for defamation by Hu.

Eric was being sued for making the chamber pot comment and Hsu for clicking the 'like' button on Eric's comment.

Despite the obvious frivolous nature of including Hsu in the defamation suit against Eric (not withstanding that not being paid should be a relatively easy matter to prove), Hu's lawyers have argued that

Facebook users sharing other's inappropriate comments, which in turn leads to the comments receiving a bigger audience could still face civil lawsuits and compensation claims.


Of course being Taiwan, this is a perfectly reasonable argument to make. I mean what, just days ago a judge in Taoyuan ruled that wedding engagements are legally binding and who could forget the jail sentence handed down to the Taiwanese blogger for complaining about salty noodles?

Although it's pretty obvious they won't, what seriously needs to be considered here are the greater ramifications of ruling in Hu's favour. Can you imagine a judge ruling that clicking Facebook's like button is tantamount to defamation?

Some content receives hundreds of thousands, if not millions of likes and what, if some precious Taiwanese person decides its defamation they'll be able to cite Hu's case and roll out the lawsuits?

One interesting fact to note is that as ridiculous as this defamation accusation against Hsu sounds, Hu could very well just be fishing for funds.

Not surprisingly, Hu is currently being criminally investigated for his role in a credit card fraud case earlier this year allegedly involving '$400 million TWD' ($13.2 million USD).

Perhaps Hu is getting worried about this case and the possibility that along with jail time, he might have to pay back any money h ...


Ya had to post the entire article? My finger got a cramp whirling the wheel.

/moran
 
2011-10-26 12:32:47 PM
That article sucks.

Get to the farking point!
 
2011-10-26 12:32:57 PM
BarbadoSlim: So this Chinaman doesn't have any face losing problem with not paying his debts but gets all butthurt over some social media comment? What a rich and nuanced culture those people have.

The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature
 
2011-10-26 12:44:57 PM
Ken_Iseeum: We had 15 jr. high kids given 1-day ISS for "liking" the story that a fight was going to take place the next day at school

+1 like

/farging FB will be the death of us all
 
2011-10-26 12:51:45 PM
Gilligann: That article sucks.

Get to the farking point!

blog.therisetothetop.com
 
2011-10-26 03:10:03 PM
Mikeyworld: Ya had to post the entire article? My finger got a cramp whirling the wheel.

/moran


The site went down, evidenced by people's posts prior to his. Don't be an ass and eat some bananas.

/moran
 
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