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(NYPost)   Karzai: That was not intended to be a factual statement   (nypost.com) divider line 69
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2011-10-25 10:01:48 AM
Afghanistan coup in 3..2..
 
2011-10-25 10:21:49 AM
The presidential palace said Karzai's comments were "misinterpreted."

2.bp.blogspot.com

Shortly followed by, "Hey, what's that buzzing sound?"
 
2011-10-25 10:29:32 AM
Surprised it took him this long to start walking that statement back.
 
2011-10-25 10:35:36 AM
Too late lamb fetus hat wearing dipshiat
 
2011-10-25 10:36:33 AM
It's reminds me of Republicans or Pastors caught doing the ghey.
 
2011-10-25 10:36:46 AM
I couldn't help but become confused when it kind of just left a whole article hanging like that.
 
2011-10-25 10:37:43 AM
Did i say BACK Pakistan? I meant We would STAB Pakistan IN THE BACK!

/sounded funnier in my head with a bad arab accent...
 
2011-10-25 10:40:30 AM
Is it too late to stop dismantling that 10,000lb nuclear bomb that's scheduled to be disassembled today?
 
2011-10-25 10:43:47 AM
Boy, I knew the Post had gone downhill, but it's just completely become our Daily Mail now, hasn't it?

Good grief.
 
2011-10-25 10:43:52 AM
Well the CIA is going to make sure he comes to an unfortunate end.
 
2011-10-25 10:45:23 AM
"Backpeddles"???? This is what passes for writing these days...
 
2011-10-25 10:45:45 AM
invade afghanistan again
 
2011-10-25 10:46:47 AM
Looks like somebody forgot who signs the paychecks.
 
2011-10-25 10:46:51 AM
Finest investigative journalism on the planet, that one.

Seriously, who designed that site? It's like an html facial.
 
2011-10-25 10:47:08 AM
To be fair, if he was talking about total hypotheticals and asked about an American invasion of Pakistan, I'd see sense in his comments. Without any context, they're veeerrry misinterpretable, and he shouldn't have said it in the first place. But hindsight and all.
 
2011-10-25 10:48:09 AM
"Well, I didn't mean to say it to YOU guys."
 
2011-10-25 10:52:06 AM
See it as an opportunity. In the event of war with Pakistan, places like Kandahar and Jalalabad and Kabul could be turned into glass parking lots. Long overdue, really.
 
2011-10-25 10:52:35 AM
How far is it from Iraq to Afghanistan?
 
2011-10-25 10:52:49 AM
Obama: "Wait, did ... did you just say you'd go to war with us if Pakistan started something?"

Karzai: "What? No! No, I didn't say that! I mean, okay, yeah, I said that, but, like, not in an actual war, are you kidding? Ha ha! No, I mean, if it were a theoretical war, yeah, we'd side with them, I mean, it's Pakistan, we have to say that, don't we? But I mean, if the planes really started flying and bombs really started dropping? Oh, hell, no, we'd totally back you guys, absolutely! I mean, you know. At the start anyway. We'd have to see how it goes, you know? Oh, hell, sorry, I gotta go, Ahmadinejad is on the other line for me."
 
2011-10-25 10:53:03 AM
The presidential palace said Karzai's comments were "misinterpreted."

horseshiat. this segment on you tube (new window) makes it look a little less hostile though.
 
2011-10-25 10:57:19 AM
I'm kind of to the point where I want us to start expecting the Afghans to pay back all the money we've spent over there.
 
2011-10-25 10:58:16 AM

Rivethead: How far is it from Iraq to Afghanistan?


About 1 Iran.
 
2011-10-25 11:00:50 AM
I can't tell whether or not his backpedaling is from the US clearing its throat, or his angry populace doing the same.
 
2011-10-25 11:01:59 AM
"I swear I had no idea my speech would be translated in to english and reprinted in the west, honest!"
 
2011-10-25 11:02:09 AM

LasersHurt: To be fair, if he was talking about total hypotheticals and asked about an American invasion of Pakistan, I'd see sense in his comments. Without any context, they're veeerrry misinterpretable, and he shouldn't have said it in the first place. But hindsight and all.


It's quite a bit worse than that, actually. He was taking an agressive stance towards Pakistan, and had just finished lashing out about the support that the insurgency within his country is receiving from elements within Pakistan's government and military apparatus. He then paused, and softened his rhetoric by saying that "of course, if you were ever attacked by some enemy, we would surely come to your aid, but..." So there you have it. As long as you're all calling for his murder, at least now you know why.
 
2011-10-25 11:05:34 AM
What do you expect him to say? Pakistan is RIGHT NEXT DOOR to Afghanistan, and they have a huge population and a twitchy and powerful military. Not to mention what I imagine are huge trade relations (goods passing back and forth over the border).

By the time the US military got in their Big Boy jeeps and tried to help, it'd be over.

/the military got way bigger when Musharaf when Dubya's favorite "helper"
 
2011-10-25 11:06:42 AM
Saying it is stupid, actually doing it would be suicidal. You're not exactly hard to find.
 
2011-10-25 11:08:28 AM
The Powers That Be, working together, to start some shiat, so they can make money for the military-industrial complex.
 
2011-10-25 11:08:51 AM

jakomo002: What do you expect him to say? Pakistan is RIGHT NEXT DOOR to Afghanistan, and they have a huge population and a twitchy and powerful military. Not to mention what I imagine are huge trade relations (goods passing back and forth over the border).


There's this tactic called, "keeping your mouth shut".
 
2011-10-25 11:09:54 AM

Diogenes: Rivethead: How far is it from Iraq to Afghanistan?

About 1 Iran.


I don't do metric. How many Rhode Islands is that?
 
2011-10-25 11:11:36 AM
jjorsett; There's this tactic called, "keeping your mouth shut".

Karzai's always spouting some shiat that he then needs to desperately disavow. He says something to the Afghan people that they want to hear ("Fark these American occupiers! Amirite?") and then the State Department calls him and he drops a brick in his pants.

Or robe. Whatever.
 
2011-10-25 11:12:56 AM
wait a minute...You mean, if you went to war against your reliable trustworthy Muslim ally Pakistan, would we, your other trustworthy reliable ally in the Muslim world, would we stick by you?

(tick...tick...tick...)

let me think for a second...

how much are you paying us again?
 
2011-10-25 11:14:15 AM

Marine1: I'm kind of to the point where I want us to start expecting the Afghans to pay back all the money we've spent over there.


If you accept opium, no problem.
 
2011-10-25 11:14:57 AM
I can't blame him too much... He's gotta live there, and image is everything.

/better him than me
 
2011-10-25 11:16:13 AM

ha-ha-guy: Marine1: I'm kind of to the point where I want us to start expecting the Afghans to pay back all the money we've spent over there.

If you accept opium, no problem.


I was thinking cold, hard cash.

/cash is actually fuzzy
//and warm
 
2011-10-25 11:16:50 AM

ha-ha-guy: Marine1: I'm kind of to the point where I want us to start expecting the Afghans to pay back all the money we've spent over there.

If you accept opium, no problem.


SURE DO!
 
2011-10-25 11:19:34 AM
ungrateful POS, time to pull out of that shiathole and just hit it from 10000 ft from now on.
 
2011-10-25 11:21:24 AM

jakomo002: jjorsett; There's this tactic called, "keeping your mouth shut".

Karzai's always spouting some shiat that he then needs to desperately disavow. He says something to the Afghan people that they want to hear ("Fark these American occupiers! Amirite?") and then the State Department calls him and he drops a brick in his pants.

Or robe. Whatever.


I think it something like pantaloons under the robe. Except on Commando Fridays
 
2011-10-25 11:22:56 AM
Karzai is bad for Afghanistan. Corrupt kleptocrats and tinpot warlords are what led to the Taliban in the first place. Who put that asshole in charge anyway? Just because he wears that stupid fez doesn't mean he should be running things.
 
2011-10-25 11:23:53 AM
He must've been drunk when he said that. If only there was some group that could tally up the amount of alcohol in Afghanistan, and then ban it all.
 
2011-10-25 11:28:10 AM
Afghanistan is such a farking shiathole. We should make a deal with the Russians, invite them in and then farking kill 90% of the population. Scorched motherfarking earth. Destroy everything we find. Poison every farking body of water that exists there. Leave a handful of the goatfarkers alive so they can tell the story to their children so they will forever be afraid of us.
 
2011-10-25 11:46:31 AM

Gaylord Fister: Afghanistan is such a farking shiathole. We should make a deal with the Russians, invite them in and then farking kill 90% of the population. Scorched motherfarking earth. Destroy everything we find. Poison every farking body of water that exists there. Leave a handful of the goatfarkers alive so they can tell the story to their children so they will forever be afraid of us.


One week later:

After reports of a genocide in Afghanistan on the part of America were confirmed, The United Nations expelled the superpower from the Security Council and passed a resolution forbidding all trade with the US until those responsible are turned over to the International Court to be tried for war crimes.

Within the country, riots have broken out in almost every major city and there are unconfirmed reports of a citizen militia preparing to march on Washington DC. Many States have passed resolutions protesting the genocide, and the governor of Michigan was quoted as saying "In the past I have never considered secession in my worst nightmares, but today it is 100% on the table. The Federal government is a bunch of murderers and need to resign and be tried for their crimes."



My point? No matter how backwards or violent a group of people are, genocide will cause a lot more problems then it will solve. Everyone who dislikes the current people in power for any reason will see it as a call to arms (if they wiped out the Afghans, we better overthrow them before they start wiping out dissidents). Those who would otherwise support the people in power will seek to distance themselves from them so they don't get lumped in the same category.
 
2011-10-25 12:05:43 PM
Nice headline, Post. He's "backpeddling"?

Someone needs to 'shop Karzai selling something backward.
 
2011-10-25 12:18:02 PM

Non-evil Monkey: Gaylord Fister: Afghanistan is such a farking shiathole. We should make a deal with the Russians, invite them in and then farking kill 90% of the population. Scorched motherfarking earth. Destroy everything we find. Poison every farking body of water that exists there. Leave a handful of the goatfarkers alive so they can tell the story to their children so they will forever be afraid of us.

One week later:

After reports of a genocide in Afghanistan on the part of America were confirmed, The United Nations expelled the superpower from the Security Council and passed a resolution forbidding all trade with the US until those responsible are turned over to the International Court to be tried for war crimes.

Within the country, riots have broken out in almost every major city and there are unconfirmed reports of a citizen militia preparing to march on Washington DC. Many States have passed resolutions protesting the genocide, and the governor of Michigan was quoted as saying "In the past I have never considered secession in my worst nightmares, but today it is 100% on the table. The Federal government is a bunch of murderers and need to resign and be tried for their crimes."



My point? No matter how backwards or violent a group of people are, genocide will cause a lot more problems then it will solve. Everyone who dislikes the current people in power for any reason will see it as a call to arms (if they wiped out the Afghans, we better overthrow them before they start wiping out dissidents). Those who would otherwise support the people in power will seek to distance themselves from them so they don't get lumped in the same category.


But...but...peace, love, and understanding doesn't let me play the Internet hard ass! Damned liebruhl.
 
2011-10-25 12:19:25 PM

toraque: "Well, I didn't mean to say it to YOU guys."


That's such a common theme among the middle-eastern countries that I wonder if it's not a cultural miscommunication. "You are my good friend and I will be your ally against all others! Sure, I said the exact same thing to your enemy yesterday, and will say it to someone else tomorrow, but right now I am saying it to YOU. So what's the problem?"
 
2011-10-25 12:41:47 PM
He certainly did learn from American politicians, didn't he?
 
2011-10-25 12:54:39 PM
You'd think that- in an "article" that short- it'd be possible to reprint the actual comments that are being interpreted by the article.

Then I realized that it has little to do with the possibility to do so... and to a greater extent that the New York post has nothing to do with news reporting.
 
2011-10-25 01:03:03 PM

jakomo002: What do you expect him to say? Pakistan is RIGHT NEXT DOOR to Afghanistan, and they have a huge population and a twitchy and powerful military. Not to mention what I imagine are huge trade relations (goods passing back and forth over the border).

By the time the US military got in their Big Boy jeeps and tried to help, it'd be over.

/the military got way bigger when Musharaf when Dubya's favorite "helper"


Why would Pakistan start any fight the US would actively oppose? Are they trying to gift-wrap Kashmir for India?
 
2011-10-25 01:06:55 PM

Non-evil Monkey: After reports of a genocide in Afghanistan on the part of America were confirmed, The United Nations expelled the superpower from the Security Council and passed a resolution forbidding all trade with the US until those responsible are turned over to the International Court to be tried for war crimes.


The UN cannot expell any permanent member of the SC -- they all have veto power over any motion. The UN is basically the SC and everyone else, and only the SC members count.
 
2011-10-25 01:08:25 PM

watson.t.hamster: "I swear I had no idea my speech would be translated in to english and reprinted in the west, honest!"


Came to say this. The Palestinians seem to have the same problem.
 
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