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Party Boy

2011-10-25 08:39:59 AM

Hero to the English but a pirate to the Spaniards.

Asymmetrical warfare freedom fighter?

Or terrorist pirate using fire ships against a navy at port and other terrorist tactics at Cadiz?

Be advised, when taking the "breaking the warfate rules" approach, the Americans will gladly point out something funny occurring some years later, rhyming with shemarican levolution.

Party Boy

2011-10-25 08:57:51 AM

Slave trader, killed hundreds of civilian men, women and children cowering among the Irish island of Rathlin's crags and caves.

or

Transporting imported undocumented laborers, and Imposing law and order among an insurgency.

Sybarite

2011-10-25 08:58:29 AM

So, what exactly is the break over point where grave robbing becomes "treasure hunting"?

gopher321

2011-10-25 10:15:17 AM

Sybarite: So, what exactly is the break over point where grave robbing becomes "treasure hunting"?

Damned if I know.

*sips beer from bin Laden's skull*

Ennuipoet

2011-10-25 10:47:30 AM

Sybarite: So, what exactly is the break over point where grave robbing becomes "treasure hunting"?

When you name is Dr. Jones?

doglover

2011-10-25 11:00:10 AM

Isn't there a happy trail?

Whiskey Dickens

2011-10-25 11:01:07 AM

^ Would like a word with you, Subby.

/And maybe a lil rum/sodomy.

LostInTO

2011-10-25 11:01:48 AM

already been taken care of.
www.dashhacks.com

ha-ha-guy

2011-10-25 11:02:52 AM

I hear he went down on guys faster than the Hood went down in 1941.

dantanner

2011-10-25 11:03:02 AM

Nelson, not Dtake.

Nelson was in the navy. Drake was a privateer.

NEDM

2011-10-25 11:05:50 AM

Sybarite: So, what exactly is the break over point where grave robbing becomes "treasure hunting"?

Intentions for the most part. This guy seems like he is only doing it for the bragging rights and not the money, since he wholly financed the expedition himself.

Publikwerks

2011-10-25 11:05:51 AM

Drake... you magnificent bastard, *I read your book*!

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across

2011-10-25 11:08:17 AM

Hint for the Americans - try looking in that fark off huge cathedral in the middle of London.

exarch

2011-10-25 11:09:10 AM

Publikwerks: Drake... you magnificent bastard, *I read your book*!

I read this book. Your conclusions were all wrong; Drake acted foolishly.

Anyoe making bad Drake puns best duck, you're in Uncharted territory.

Blueintheballs

2011-10-25 11:10:58 AM

Whiskey Dickens: ^ Would like a word with you, Subby.

/And maybe a lil rum/sodomy.

Came for this. Leaving satisfied. Nelson established British sea power for 200 years and therefore the empire. GIS his tomb, I'm on my phone, it's as close to royal as it gets.

Slaxl

2011-10-25 11:13:53 AM

Sybarite: So, what exactly is the break over point where grave robbing becomes "treasure hunting"?

When people care about the person whos grave it is. 1400 year old peasant? Fine, dig it up and learn what you can about stuff, George Washington's grave? Might have a problem with that one. But we've dug up kings and emperors before, and so we should. Our current need to learn what we can is more important than the rights of dust and bone, which don't care about anything. Sentimental value has its importance, which is why disturbing Washington's tomb would be problematic, though mainly because there's no real need, but discovering and opening the tomb of some early Saxon colonist in Wessex wouldn't be an issue, so long as remains are treated with dignity so as not to upset anyone, and reburied so anyone who feels a connection and wants to pay respects can do so.

So long as Drake is found and given a re-burial at a sutiable site back home then that's all fine.

HazMatt

2011-10-25 11:14:30 AM

Captain B.J. Smethwick in a white wine sauce with shallots, mushrooms and garlic?

Mad Scientist

2011-10-25 11:16:19 AM

"Whalt nelws flom Prymouth?"

www.imcdb.org

Ain't No Party Like A Tea Party

2011-10-25 11:23:45 AM

FTA: "...looks out across Plymouth Sound as a statue on The Hoe - where he reputedly finished his game of bowls"

Weed and Hoes. Sounds like my kind of naval hero.

freewill

2011-10-25 11:23:54 AM

a statue on The Hoe

When I go out, I'm hoping to have my statute depict me on top of a ho, as well.

soupforlunch

2011-10-25 11:25:21 AM

Came for Nelson

Arkanaut

2011-10-25 11:25:55 AM

Blueintheballs: Whiskey Dickens: ^ Would like a word with you, Subby.

/And maybe a lil rum/sodomy.

Came for this. Leaving satisfied. Nelson established British sea power for 200 years and therefore the empire. GIS his tomb, I'm on my phone, it's as close to royal as it gets.

He also pretty much crushed Napoleon singlehandedly. Well not quite, but Napoleon probably would not have invaded Russia if the British hadn't so effectively shut him off from the sea.

j.zero

2011-10-25 11:27:09 AM

Also came for Nelson.

The Irresponsible Captain

2011-10-25 11:37:47 AM

If I had a million ducats (We wouldn't have to walk to the faire)
If I had a million ducats (We'd hire a knight carry us there)
If I had a million ducats (We wouldn't have to get our feel all dirty)
We wouldn't have to walk in the filth.
(We'd have people throw cloaks on the ground like for Sir ~~Walter Raleigh~~ Francis Drake)
Oh, just step on Sir Francis Drake's face again and again; mash it in the mud. A lifelong dream.

Slaxl

2011-10-25 11:40:31 AM

No love for Sir Walter 'ooh what a big ship i've got' Raleigh?

I hope they find some burke with a parrot on his shoulder selling plaster gnomes of Sir Francis Drake and his Golden beHind.

These Blackadder quotes doing anything for you? He was a frightul ol' lubber. Indubitubly no sea-dog, with a yo-ho-ho and perhaps, I might venture, a bottle of rum into the bargain?

Ok I'll stop now.

Lipspinach

2011-10-25 11:42:24 AM

I hate the Drake.

89 Stick-Up Kid

2011-10-25 11:44:02 AM

George: My favorite explorer was De Soto. The man found the Mississippi!

Jerry: Ya, like they wouldn't have found that (rolls eyes).

uber humper

2011-10-25 11:44:19 AM

j.zero: Also came for Nelson.

sounds like a gang bang.

/or a Saturday night on a ship of the line.

Lone Stranger

2011-10-25 11:45:58 AM

RIP DRAKE

mainsail

2011-10-25 11:54:58 AM

...and this is why I love Fark.

Of course the Spanish would hate Drake; still do. Mind you, I think the possibility of these guys finding Drake's coffin about as likely as the other bozos finding Amelia Earhart's aircraft; the damn thing is too small to easily locate. Look how hard it is to find the wreck of 80-90 foot shipwrecks...and now you're going to find a 38 foot long aircraft, or even more unlikely, 6 foot box of lead? On a rocky bottom? At depth?

Mad_Radhu

2011-10-25 12:06:15 PM

This is going to end with mutated Nazis, isn't it?

Mock26

2011-10-25 12:16:43 PM

A TEAM of international treasure hunters is close to finding the final resting place of Plymouth hero Sir Francis Drake.

What the Fark is up with spelling TEAM in all caps?

Seraphym

2011-10-25 12:24:50 PM

Somehow I doubt this search will live up to my expectations at this point, thanks to:

img.thesun.co.uk

/can't wait for 3:

farm6.static.flickr.com

EdVenture

2011-10-25 12:30:28 PM

Great, now can someone find my locker?
www.celebirony.com

Fano

2011-10-25 01:14:15 PM

Slaxl: Sybarite: So, what exactly is the break over point where grave robbing becomes "treasure hunting"?

When people care about the person whos grave it is. 1400 year old peasant? Fine, dig it up and learn what you can about stuff, George Washington's grave? Might have a problem with that one. But we've dug up kings and emperors before, and so we should. Our current need to learn what we can is more important than the rights of dust and bone, which don't care about anything. Sentimental value has its importance, which is why disturbing Washington's tomb would be problematic, though mainly because there's no real need, but discovering and opening the tomb of some early Saxon colonist in Wessex wouldn't be an issue, so long as remains are treated with dignity so as not to upset anyone, and reburied so anyone who feels a connection and wants to pay respects can do so.

So long as Drake is found and given a re-burial at a sutiable site back home then that's all fine.

...dump 'em in the Thames

JackieRabbit

2011-10-25 01:17:06 PM

Admiral Horatio Lord Nelson snickers at your assertion, Subby.

DssDevl

2011-10-25 01:21:23 PM

Even after reading this great thread, I still can't get over the website's name.

This is...PLYMOUTH!!!!

/doesn't have the same oomph, does it?

Jeremiahe

2011-10-25 01:31:07 PM

Seraphym:

That's the Vita game.

MadBiker Wolf

2011-10-25 01:31:50 PM

How does "A TEAM of international treasure hunters" equate to "American"?

LostInTO

2011-10-25 01:47:26 PM

Last seen on a recovery ship?

Nightsweat

2011-10-25 02:03:42 PM

What the grave of England's greatest Naval hero may look like.

imagehost.epier.com

Nelson FTW

Mock26

2011-10-25 02:29:57 PM

Nightsweat: What the grave of England's greatest Naval hero may look like.

[imagehost.epier.com image 300x400]

Nelson FTW

Now, now, that was just a temporary shipping container.

shanteyman

2011-10-25 02:40:04 PM

Would like a word with you, Subby.

Came for this. Lord Viscount Sir Horatio Nelson and the wooden walls of the British Navy prevented the Corsican upstart from invading. It was a good thing for the US that he was killed at Trafalgar. The War of 1812 could have been quite different.

/// Pass the salt !

Rufus Lee King

2011-10-25 02:40:55 PM

"Drake was too clever for the German fleet!"

orangecow.org

stevetherobot

2011-10-25 02:43:26 PM

Mock26: Nightsweat: What the grave of England's greatest Naval hero may look like.

[imagehost.epier.com image 300x400]

Nelson FTW

Now, now, that was just a temporary shipping container.

Supposedly much of the brandy had been drained by the time the ship reached England.

AngryJailhouseFistfark

2011-10-25 03:07:05 PM

Buried at sea in a coffin lined with lead because they knew it was the only way to contain his terrifying mojo.

TeddyRooseveltsMustache

2011-10-25 04:02:16 PM

Whiskey Dickens: [t2.gstatic.com image 200x240]

^ Would like a word with you, Subby.

/And maybe a lil rum/sodomy.

Yeah, I thought to myself before clicking the article "Why would we be looking for Nelson's grave?".

mainsail

2011-10-25 04:19:04 PM

shanteyman: Would like a word with you, Subby.

Came for this. Lord Viscount Sir Horatio Nelson and the wooden walls of the British Navy prevented the Corsican upstart from invading. It was a good thing for the US that he was killed at Trafalgar. The War of 1812 could have been quite different.

/// Pass the salt !

"May I trouble you for the salt". I've always tried to say it exactly as he did.

Oldiron_79

2011-10-25 06:55:16 PM

Since everybody and their brother has pointed out that Nelson is the greatest British Naval Hero, I guess its time to get back to my rum, sodomy, and the lash

Armadillo Slim

2011-10-25 11:30:42 PM

soupforlunch: Came for Nelson

Carrying hero-worship a bit far, don't you think?

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