Hear, hear.

Which pledges that enforce far left orthodoxy is he talking about?

I mean, I can name a couple "far right" pledges that have been signed by conservative leaders. Are there any "far left" pledges that have been signed by national level Democrats? (I'm not trying to imply there haven't been, but I don't know of any).

The rest of the article is typical middle-road punditry tripe that bemoans the "partisan" attitudes in Washington. Hell, the debt ceiling 'crisis' is his main example, and it's just impossible to evaluate that situation and come up with "both sides are bad". Democrats agreed to the Republicans' initial demands more than once, only to find the goal posts were being moved faster than they could catch up with them.

hitchking: Which pledges that enforce far left orthodoxy is he talking about?

Came here to say this. I challenge anyone to find me ONE pledge that "enforces far left orthodoxy", because there aren't any.

Serious Black: Hear, hear.

Unfortunately Juan's pissing off his network is taken by many to invalidate any other points he made in TFA.

We may be in an era when "having a spine" means "bending over and taking it up the ass."

Far left orthodoxy. Is he kidding? In the interest of neutrality, I suppose he put that in, but does he actually believe there has been anyone in congress calling for:

a) public funding for abortions
b) expanding affirmative action
c) reducing defense spending by more than 20%
d) etc

The far left orthodoxy is dead, Juan, and you can thank the GOP who keeps paying their drones well to move those goal posts.

Occam's Chainsaw: Yes, you did. YES YOU F*CKING DID. You brought editorial speech into journalistic reporting. You inserted your unsolicited opinion into a news piece. Not an opinion piece. Left, right, authoritarian, libertarian, wackadoo, Nazi, or space alienist, injection of personal opinion into what should be objective reporting is a violation of journalistic standards. Perhaps not by the standards of the day, piss poor as they are, but by definitional standards of objectivity.

And the disingenuous or most poorly researched post of the day goes to! Oh...fark the drum roll, he already said it.

hitchking: Which pledges that enforce far left orthodoxy is he talking about?

The one that all Democrats have to take signing their soul over to Marx, Hitler, Satan, and George Soros.

If you say stupid, thinly veiled racist comments on TV, your boss might fire you.

People get fired for Facebook pictures, so buck up.

His statement reeks of "both sides are bad". hitchking already touched on this. Lately the conservative thing has been to sign pledges. This normally puts politicians in the unfortunate position of either betraying their oath of office to serve the people's interest by upholding the pledge at any cost, or betraying the pledge and all the people that agree with it.

However, presently, a majority of Republican supporters are too f*cking retarded to see when Bachmann signs a pledge with sketchy wording about slavery of black people to promote family values, she is either shamelessly pandering to a group to attempt to get elected, or betraying her oath of office by working for a pledge instead of the people.

Supporters are too f*cking retarded to see when John Boehner and other top Republicans pledge to focus on creating jobs, they end up reading the Constitution aloud, trying to defund NPR and Planned Parenthood, let the economy go to the brink of collapse, and generally troll the legislature just so Obama can lose some points in the polls.

Republican supporters are too f*cking retarded to see when they're being played with, and to see which party is more interested in helping the majority. Keep voting Republican until the politicians you elected starve you to death, assholes.

Ideology has no place in decision-making. A passionless evaluation of the facts, followed by a reasoned decision-making process focused on consensus building (not compromise!), and then an implementation built around benchmarks and continual re-evaluation of your goals and your progress towards them is the way to govern.

It's funny that every single element of our political system is structured in a fashion to be the absolute worst way to make decisions and implement them successfully. We are a nation ruled by ideology, not reason.

t3knomanser: Ideology has no place in decision-making. A passionless evaluation of the facts, followed by a reasoned decision-making process focused on consensus building (not compromise!), and then an implementation built around benchmarks and continual re-evaluation of your goals and your progress towards them is the way to govern.

It's funny that every single element of our political system is structured in a fashion to be the absolute worst way to make decisions and implement them successfully. We are a nation ruled by ideology, not reason.

Fo real. Give him 5-10 years and I will vote for Watson (IBM's AI). Hey, if the GOP can gets corps to be people, why not robots? And if that doesn't work, incorporate him and then he'll be elligible (once he's 35).

I read the article. It's all, "Woe is me. I'm beset on all sides. But I advanced debate in this country. Aren't I great?"

No you jackwagon. You're just some guy who said stupid things and got fired. And then we talked about how stupid you are. That's it.

PanicMan: I read the article. It's all, "Woe is me. I'm beset on all sides. But I advanced debate in this country. Aren't I great?"

No you jackwagon. You're just some guy who said stupid things and got fired. And then we talked about how stupid you are. That's it.

Thread over, nothing more to see.

Juan Williams seems like a reasonable guy, but he really is very angry and self loathing toward Black America. He couches most of what he says in very polite reasonable terms, but he advocates the Uncle Clarence Line, which is not at all reasonable if you are a Black person in America.

AND he a liar. HE stated that a prominent Boston Public radio station refused to hire him because he sounded too Black (he doesn't "sound" Black at all)....THAT is total BS. There are a number of prominent Black reporters that have come out of WBUR and WGBH, at least two of who Anchor of the local NPR News read. One is named Dolores Handy, and the others name I can't recall at the moment. Why would Juan project that Lie...the only reason is he is , under that nice polite front an angry sociopath who pisses on Blacks in America by not acknowledging the depth of their continuing struggle in this country.

DrD'isInfotainment: Juan Williams seems like a reasonable guy, but he really is very angry and self loathing toward Black America. He couches most of what he says in very polite reasonable terms, but he advocates the Uncle Clarence Line, which is not at all reasonable if you are a Black person in America.

AND he a liar. HE stated that a prominent Boston Public radio station refused to hire him because he sounded too Black (he doesn't "sound" Black at all)....THAT is total BS. There are a number of prominent Black reporters that have come out of WBUR and WGBH, at least two of who Anchor of the local NPR News read. One is named Dolores Handy, and the others name I can't recall at the moment. Why would Juan project that Lie...the only reason is he is , under that nice polite front an angry sociopath who pisses on Blacks in America by not acknowledging the depth of their continuing struggle in this country.

Agreed. The statistical outlier theory of glass ceiling destruction is really getting old. Herman Cain is the same way. 'I did it, so can you!" Well, no, actually, statistically pragmatically and economically we can't ALL do it, moron.

As a pussy liberal terrorist sympathizer anti-American traitor I say good morning. Yes I have been called all of those things because I did not support the Afghanistan war, the Iraq War, the War on Terror, maintain that President Bush and his regime needs to be dragged before the Hague and tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity

I'm glad you are finally waking up, even if it is now 3 in the after noon.

You don't get to slip through technical loopholes on ethical violations, dude, that's what makes them ethical/standards violations rather than specific broken rules. Sorry, you don't get to pass Go and collect 200$ on this one, you dun goofed and the consequences will never be the same.

fark Juan Williams. Maybe NPR knee-jerked too hard when they canned him for the bigoted statements, but this BS about far-right/far-left is utter crap. He shiats out this "both sides are bad" nonsense and there is absolutely no truth to it.

The far-right demands purity tests and insane pledge-signing of insane pledges.

There is no far-left.

People keep eating this shiat up to the detriment of our national political discourse. The extremists on the far-right have taken over the Republican party and are treated as if they are promoting rational or remotely reasonable policy when they have provided anything but that. Their policy statements are complete nonsense, couched in racism and should be treated by the media as the obscenely irrational statements they actually are. Objective reporting does not mean that the person with the worldview of a third grader should have equal time as an adult. They should be marginalized and should receive no more than the "hey, look at that fool" byline that they deserve.

Williams' BSABSVR just cements his intellectual dishonesty and, were I in charge of NPR, I would fire his ass too.

hitchking: Which pledges that enforce far left orthodoxy is he talking about?

Bof sidez r bad.

Slaves2Darkness: As a pussy liberal terrorist sympathizer anti-American traitor I say good morning. Yes I have been called all of those things because I did not support the Afghanistan war, the Iraq War, the War on Terror, maintain that President Bush and his regime needs to be dragged before the Hague and tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity

I'm glad you are finally waking up, even if it is now 3 in the after noon.

FAR LEFT ORTHODOXY! I am sniffing a meme here. Just a sniff.

I loved his Star Wars music!

You losers, I was at the Leftie America-Haters Forced Negro Abortions For Everyone meeting last night, the Leftie Pledges were signed by EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT, but part of the pledge is that no one can know that there is a pledge, what is in it, or who signed it!

That's why it was so successful.

Occam's Chainsaw: log_jammin: I violated no journalistic standard by honestly expressing my feeling.

Yes, you did. YES YOU F*CKING DID. You brought editorial speech into journalistic reporting. You inserted your unsolicited opinion into a news piece. Not an opinion piece. Left, right, authoritarian, libertarian, wackadoo, Nazi, or space alienist, injection of personal opinion into what should be objective reporting is a violation of journalistic standards. Perhaps not by the standards of the day, piss poor as they are, but by definitional standards of objectivity.

Um, he did it on an opinion show...not on NPR...

what a horrible man.

KarmicDisaster: I loved his Star Wars music!

His Empire March was devoted to his employer, Roger Ailes.

"People are fed up with pledges that enforce far right or far left orthodoxy and being told they lack a spine when they listen to the other side of an argument or call for a political compromise to reach a solution"

But I cash checks from a company that pushes this narrative all day everyday.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: hitchking: Which pledges that enforce far left orthodoxy is he talking about?

The one that all Democrats have to take signing their soul over to Marx, Hitler, Satan, and George Soros.

While they swear loyalty to the skull of Jimmy Hoffa.

Occam's Chainsaw: log_jammin: I violated no journalistic standard by honestly expressing my feeling.

Yes, you did. YES YOU F*CKING DID. You brought editorial speech into journalistic reporting. You inserted your unsolicited opinion into a news piece. Not an opinion piece. Left, right, authoritarian, libertarian, wackadoo, Nazi, or space alienist, injection of personal opinion into what should be objective reporting is a violation of journalistic standards. Perhaps not by the standards of the day, piss poor as they are, but by definitional standards of objectivity.

Hi everybody! How do you all feel about a VAT?

He has a good point no matter what his history is.

We should at least read the opinion of the opposition. Now if it starts to look like party boilerplate, then it does no good. But some people do not always follow the herd.

-- my favorite quote "Always drink upstream from the herd"

I have only heard of a no new taxes pledge. Are there others?

//If not, time for another firin Juan

So vote Republican.

s2s2s2: Hi everybody! How do you all feel about a VAT?

Generally, a VAT is regressive and as such is an added burden on those who can least afford it.

Is your VAT plan different in some way?

Obama: "Dr King would want us to challenge the excesses of Wall Street without demonising those who work there." Right, the left doesn't do it at all. They just speak their mind. Defend the truth. It amazes me that people believe that.

s2s2s2: Hi everybody! How do you all feel about a VAT?

God awful idea. Last thing we need to do is give the federal government a new taxing power.

Wellon Dowd: So vote Republican.

BSABSVD? Right?

derpiederpiedoo: Obama: "Dr King would want us to challenge the excesses of Wall Street without demonising those who work there." Right, the left doesn't do it at all. They just speak their mind. Defend the truth. It amazes me that people believe that.

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I am pretty goddamned sick and tired of being labeled as "spineless" because I consider myself as moderate or "middle of the road"

I just think moderates are people who are smart enough to understant there are variables and multiple circumstances to everything.

If I find myself in the middle of a desert with only one canteen I suppose I should be pretty damned conservative.

If I am in my home with plenty of cheap running water I will have the liberty of using as much water I need for bathing,washing....etc.

To me,it really is just that f*cking simple.

MorrisBird: monoski: I have only heard of a no new taxes pledge. Are there others?

Yep. Link (new window)

Just no far left ones.

Are you saying Juan Williams is a lying sack of shiat?