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2011-10-25 12:35:47 AM
I'll leave the Swedish Chef jokes for someone else.
 
2011-10-25 01:01:39 AM
Getting it over with:
farm3.static.flickr.com
 
2011-10-25 01:11:26 AM
I'm so happy this bloviating, pity-party dickhead has come out of his decades-long slumber to hover over a new generation of Americans with the dual sabers of Constitutional originalism and patriarchal moralizing.
 
2011-10-25 01:31:26 AM
Hey, say what you want about Borky, at least no one ever accused him of putting his pubes on their soda can.
 
2011-10-25 01:34:44 AM
fusillade762: Hey, say what you want about Borky, at least no one ever accused him of putting his pubes on their soda can.

Pop.
 
2011-10-25 01:40:37 AM
GreenAdder: their soda can.

Pop.


Coke.
 
2011-10-25 02:20:38 AM
Occam's Chainsaw: GreenAdder: their soda can.

Pop.

Coke.


From that chart it looks like the DC area uses the term "soda". So neener neener! Though apparently it *was* actually a coke can in the original allegation:

"Thomas was drinking a Coke in his office, he got up from the table at which we were working, went over to his desk to get the Coke, looked at the can and asked, 'Who has put pubic hair on my Coke?'."

Wait, so he put pubes on his *own* Coke?? Or did someone else? Or was it just a tasteless joke?
 
2011-10-25 02:39:52 AM
Wait. I just thought of one.
"Is that the guy who plays Beretta in Sweden?"
 
2011-10-25 06:37:49 AM
This will not be forgotten, however.

The "Saturday Night Massacre" was the term given by political commentators[1] to U.S. President Richard Nixon's executive dismissal of independent special prosecutor Archibald Cox, and the resignations of Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus on October 20, 1973 during the Watergate scandal

Nixon then contacted the Solicitor General, Robert Bork, and ordered him as acting head of the Justice Department to fire Cox. Richardson and Ruckelshaus had both personally assured the congressional committee overseeing the special prosecutor investigation that they would not interfere. However, Bork had made no such assurance to the committee. Though Bork believed Nixon's order to be valid and appropriate, he considered resigning to avoid being "perceived as a man who did the President's bidding to save my job."[7] Nevertheless, after being persuaded by Richardson to stay on to ensure that someone who knew how the Justice Department worked would still be in charge, Bork did comply with Nixon's order after consulting with others, since the President was obviously determined to find someone who would fire Cox. Initially, the White House claimed to have fired Ruckelshaus, but as The Washington Post article written the next day pointed out, "The letter from the President to Bork also said Ruckelshaus resigned."

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre
 
2011-10-25 07:29:29 AM
I already heard that he'd recently claimed that there was no such thing as discrimination against women. So he's welcome to go back into seclusion, so he can continue to be completely wrong about current events.
 
2011-10-25 07:32:44 AM
"I don't hate the dark matter, it's just that the Libertarian God PAULONI has told me in sacred tablets that my solemn duty is to bloviate that the government's role to prevent discrimination, segregation and lynching is an overreach."
 
2011-10-25 07:34:26 AM
I feel like I should know more about him.
 
2011-10-25 07:36:44 AM
Liberal monsters defeated this great intellectual's nomination with vicious attacks on his character. They called attention to his opposition to civil rights legislation, among other slanders. That was the first time in American history that anyone had played dirty politics, and that's why Republicans are completely justified in opposing everything the Obama administration does.
 
2011-10-25 07:38:53 AM
aselene: Liberal monsters defeated this great intellectual's nomination with vicious attacks on his character. They called attention to his opposition to civil rights legislation, among other slanders. That was the first time in American history that anyone had played dirty politics, and that's why Republicans are completely justified in opposing everything the Obama administration does.

I got one sentence in then I voted. 1.5/10.
 
2011-10-25 07:40:12 AM
Go away, Mr. Bork and take Mittens with you.
 
2011-10-25 07:40:35 AM
I'm not sure I'd equate "being relevant" to working for Mitt Romney, but that's just me.
 
2011-10-25 07:41:08 AM
Bork is a terrible person and wholly unqualified to make any decisions for anyone other than himself. It would be best for the nation for him to crawl back in whatever hole he came from and stay there.
 
2011-10-25 07:50:09 AM
Uncle Wiggly: This will not be forgotten, however.

The "Saturday Night Massacre" was the term given by political commentators[1] to U.S. President Richard Nixon's executive dismissal of independent special prosecutor Archibald Cox, and the resignations of Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus on October 20, 1973 during the Watergate scandal

Nixon then contacted the Solicitor General, Robert Bork, and ordered him as acting head of the Justice Department to fire Cox. Richardson and Ruckelshaus had both personally assured the congressional committee overseeing the special prosecutor investigation that they would not interfere. However, Bork had made no such assurance to the committee. Though Bork believed Nixon's order to be valid and appropriate, he considered resigning to avoid being "perceived as a man who did the President's bidding to save my job."[7] Nevertheless, after being persuaded by Richardson to stay on to ensure that someone who knew how the Justice Department worked would still be in charge, Bork did comply with Nixon's order after consulting with others, since the President was obviously determined to find someone who would fire Cox. Initially, the White House claimed to have fired Ruckelshaus, but as The Washington Post article written the next day pointed out, "The letter from the President to Bork also said Ruckelshaus resigned."

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre


Indeed, this is the reason why he did/does not belong on the Supreme Court, not his politics or understanding of the law. When the chips were down he didn't make the right choice - at least the Burger court knew when to call shenanigans.
 
2011-10-25 07:50:50 AM
coeyagi: aselene: Liberal monsters defeated this great intellectual's nomination with vicious attacks on his character. They called attention to his opposition to civil rights legislation, among other slanders. That was the first time in American history that anyone had played dirty politics, and that's why Republicans are completely justified in opposing everything the Obama administration does.

I got one sentence in then I voted. 1.5/10.


No, this is what Conservatives actually believe.

Poe's Law strikes again.
 
2011-10-25 07:52:00 AM
Ahhhh, the comments:

i`m sick of these respectable conservatives who support white genocide:
Africa for the Africans,Asia for the Asians,white countries for EVERYBODY!
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives alike say I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.


THESE are the people who support Robert Bork.
 
2011-10-25 07:52:18 AM
That was a reflection of what I thought at the time, because I said it. But, heck, it was a long time ago. And it turns out that the transition to a non-discriminatory society was much easier than I thought it would be. I am now perfectly happy with the way things turned out.

Oh, well that makes it all better, I guess... *rolls eyes*

So his main opposition to the Civil Rights Act was that it would be too hard to implement? Yeah, that's a guy I want advising me.
 
2011-10-25 07:55:07 AM
*gobble gobble*
 
2011-10-25 07:58:13 AM
keylock71: That was a reflection of what I thought at the time, because I said it. But, heck, it was a long time ago. And it turns out that the transition to a non-discriminatory society was much easier than I thought it would be. I am now perfectly happy with the way things turned out.

Oh, well that makes it all better, I guess... *rolls eyes*

So his main opposition to the Civil Rights Act was that it would be too hard to implement? Yeah, that's a guy I want advising me.


Not to defend him; However when taken with his other statement that he felt it was government overstepping its reach it makes some sense. That is he may (and of course I have no idea what the idiot was thinking) have felt that there would be too much resistance, perhaps even violent.
 
2011-10-25 08:00:06 AM
Bork rhymes with "pork". And "spork".
 
2011-10-25 08:01:49 AM
Robert Bork was the Founding Father of the modern GOP persecution complex. "They smeared me with things I actually said and did. THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!" He was also one of the last examples of the crooked cronies of a rotten regime being denied positions of high influence later on. He was denied; Cheney got to be VP and Dictator Pro Tem. And throw in Rumsfeld and many slimey characters from the Nixon Laff-A-Lympics and the Iran Contra shindig.

Now SCOTUS members can go on all-expenses-paid duck hunting trips at oil energy compounds and laugh off allegations of conflict of interest. Bork would actually fit right in.
 
2011-10-25 08:02:33 AM
One wonders what Bork would have to say, in a private setting, after a few drinks, about Clarence Thomas.
 
2011-10-25 08:04:44 AM
bighasbeen: I'm so happy this bloviating, pity-party dickhead has come out of his decades-long slumber to hover over a new generation of Americans with the dual sabers of Constitutional originalism and patriarchal moralizing.

Am I the only one annoyed by how how he, Scalia, and all his other acolytes refer to ignoring the Constitution and declaring it meaningless as "Constitutional Originalism"?
 
2011-10-25 08:09:18 AM
Heron: declaring it meaningless as "Constitutional Originalism"?

What I love is the implied argument that if it's not explicitly stated in the Constitution then it can't be a right. Thereby doing away with the pesky consequences of the 9th amendment.
 
2011-10-25 08:10:17 AM
Solon Isonomia: Uncle Wiggly: This will not be forgotten, however.

The "Saturday Night Massacre" was the term given by political commentators[1] to U.S. President Richard Nixon's executive dismissal of independent special prosecutor Archibald Cox, and the resignations of Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus on October 20, 1973 during the Watergate scandal

Nixon then contacted the Solicitor General, Robert Bork, and ordered him as acting head of the Justice Department to fire Cox. Richardson and Ruckelshaus had both personally assured the congressional committee overseeing the special prosecutor investigation that they would not interfere. However, Bork had made no such assurance to the committee. Though Bork believed Nixon's order to be valid and appropriate, he considered resigning to avoid being "perceived as a man who did the President's bidding to save my job."[7] Nevertheless, after being persuaded by Richardson to stay on to ensure that someone who knew how the Justice Department worked would still be in charge, Bork did comply with Nixon's order after consulting with others, since the President was obviously determined to find someone who would fire Cox. Initially, the White House claimed to have fired Ruckelshaus, but as The Washington Post article written the next day pointed out, "The letter from the President to Bork also said Ruckelshaus resigned."

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre

Indeed, this is the reason why he did/does not belong on the Supreme Court, not his politics or understanding of the law. When the chips were down he didn't make the right choice - at least the Burger court knew when to call shenanigans.


His Academic legal writings alone should disqualify him. He is, like his student Scalia, a judicial authoritarian who believes law exists to serve the interests of those in authority; not ensure an equitable society or "more perfect union". His concepts of law and constitutionalism are antithetical to the very document the Supreme Court is meant to uphold.
 
2011-10-25 08:11:20 AM
Kibbler: One wonders what Bork would have to say, in a private setting, after a few drinks, about Clarence Thomas.

"His shoe shining skills leave a lot to be desired"?
 
2011-10-25 08:11:30 AM
siphra: Not to defend him; However when taken with his other statement that he felt it was government overstepping its reach it makes some sense. That is he may (and of course I have no idea what the idiot was thinking) have felt that there would be too much resistance, perhaps even violent.

There was violent resistance to it...

To say that people should have been kept in second-class citizen status because it would be too hard to implement more equal and just laws is a complete cop out and shows a remarkable contempt for the principles this country supposedly stands for.

I wouldn't call it "overstepping" if someone's "freedom" to oppress another because of race is impeded by the federal government. I'd call it justice for the oppressed.
 
2011-10-25 08:12:36 AM
Also "stork", "fork", "New York", "cork", and "Mork from Ork"

img27.imageshack.us

Nanoo, nanoo.
 
2011-10-25 08:18:08 AM
The only thing I ever did was, in my libertarian phase, doubt that law should be used to overcome private immorality.

Private immorality. Private. Lets see.
Rosa Parks wouldn't move to the back of a bus operated by the city of Montgomery.
Oliver Brown sued the Board of Education of the city of Topeka.
Violence against freedom riders in Montgomery were led by the police commissioner, Bull Conner .
People trying to register blacks were arrested by the local police and released into the custody of the KKK to be killed.

I don't know, all that seems like it might be a public, not a private matter.
\Closet racist might not still be a racist, probably still is stupid.
 
2011-10-25 08:19:24 AM
Karac: The only thing I ever did was, in my libertarian phase, doubt that law should be used to overcome private immorality.

Private immorality. Private. Lets see.
Rosa Parks wouldn't move to the back of a bus operated by the city of Montgomery.
Oliver Brown sued the Board of Education of the city of Topeka.
Violence against freedom riders in Montgomery were led by the police commissioner, Bull Conner .
People trying to register blacks were arrested by the local police and released into the custody of the KKK to be killed.

I don't know, all that seems like it might be a public, not a private matter.
\Closet racist might not still be a racist, probably still is stupid.


Surprised Ron Paul hasn't tapped his special brand of stupidity.
 
2011-10-25 08:21:35 AM
So with this move, Romney can now say he is:

-courting moderates who are too lazy to see he's flip-flopped
-tea partiers who are willing to forgive that he's flip-flopped to their intellectually lazy Koch-swallowing positions
-libertarians, thanks to Bork.
 
2011-10-25 08:22:59 AM
Heron: Am I the only one annoyed by how how he, Scalia, and all his other acolytes refer to ignoring the Constitution and declaring it meaningless as "Constitutional Originalism"?

Even if one were to take it seriously (and ignore how its practitioners pretty much use it to legitimate all Conservative ideas), "Constitutional Originalism," from a historical standpoint, is one of the most intellectually bankrupt ideas I've ever come across.
 
2011-10-25 08:30:50 AM
Bork is:

1. Really, really smart
2. A bit of a crank
 
2011-10-25 08:31:38 AM
eiger: "Constitutional Originalism," from a historical standpoint, is one of the most intellectually bankrupt ideas I've ever come across.

It's like Biblical inerrancy, the people who adhere to it insist it's how it's meant to be. But a quick check of history shows their idea is a recent development in the history of the text. The idea that the Bible is the inerrant word of God, only shows up a few centuries ago. Likewise Constitutional originalism showed up not that long ago.
 
2011-10-25 08:43:24 AM
WhyteRaven74: It's like Biblical inerrancy, the people who adhere to it insist it's how it's meant to be. But a quick check of history shows their idea is a recent development in the history of the text. The idea that the Bible is the inerrant word of God, only shows up a few centuries ago. Likewise Constitutional originalism showed up not that long ago.

It's also striking how when read "correctly" a book written over centuries over two thousand years ago and another document created by a group of disagreeing politicians over 220 years ago somehow both agree that the modern conservative view of the world is 100% correct.

It's so incredible that it's not credible.
 
2011-10-25 08:49:59 AM
Skleenar: Also "stork", "fork", "New York", "cork", and "Mork from Ork"

[img27.imageshack.us image 320x241]

Nanoo, nanoo.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-10-25 08:56:40 AM
Misch: No, this is what Conservatives actually believe.

Poe's Law strikes again.


I love how the "ugliness" started with Bork receiving an up-or-down majority confirmation vote... and failing to get a majority.

Therefore, Republicans are completely justified in demanding 60 votes for any appointee to get confirmed ever again.
 
2011-10-25 08:59:50 AM
keylock71: siphra: Not to defend him; However when taken with his other statement that he felt it was government overstepping its reach it makes some sense. That is he may (and of course I have no idea what the idiot was thinking) have felt that there would be too much resistance, perhaps even violent.

There was violent resistance to it...

To say that people should have been kept in second-class citizen status because it would be too hard to implement more equal and just laws is a complete cop out and shows a remarkable contempt for the principles this country supposedly stands for.

I wouldn't call it "overstepping" if someone's "freedom" to oppress another because of race is impeded by the federal government. I'd call it justice for the oppressed.


I agree, I was simply stating that given the time of the events, and his other statements, one could put it into a sort of perspective. It was still a morally wrong choice.
 
2011-10-25 09:04:27 AM
Aexia: Misch: No, this is what Conservatives actually believe.

Poe's Law strikes again.

I love how the "ugliness" started with Bork receiving an up-or-down majority confirmation vote... and failing to get a majority.

Therefore, Republicans are completely justified in demanding 60 votes for any appointee to get confirmed ever again.


He used Obama's time machine and didn't realize 1987 Robert Bork wasn't supposed to say things 1957 Robert Bork would say.
 
2011-10-25 09:05:08 AM
Karac: The only thing I ever did was, in my libertarian phase, doubt that law should be used to overcome private immorality.

Rosa Parks wouldn't move to the back of a bus operated by the city of Montgomery.



Not trolling here, just setting the record straight, IIRC the bus was operated by NCL (National City Lines) which was an independant company. It was the LAW that required segregation. So again your point stands.
 
2011-10-25 09:13:18 AM
siphra: I agree, I was simply stating that given the time of the events, and his other statements, one could put it into a sort of perspective. It was still a morally wrong choice.

I see what you're getting at, but I just don't think the perspective or context changes anything with regards to his words and actions at the time.

People's views change over time, of course, and many people, who were against the CRA, have admitted their error in opposing it without qualifiers.
 
2011-10-25 09:16:17 AM
deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com

Judge Snyder disagrees with your assessment.
 
2011-10-25 09:25:40 AM
ghare: Ahhhh, the comments:

i`m sick of these respectable conservatives who support white genocide:
Africa for the Africans,Asia for the Asians,white countries for EVERYBODY!
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives alike say I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

THESE are the people who support Robert Bork.


He said "final solution" twice.
 
2011-10-25 09:25:59 AM
Skleenar

Also "stork", "fork", "New York", "cork", and "Mork from Ork"


i64.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-25 09:26:56 AM
Anyone else pointed out yet that after a lifetime of being a "strict constructionist" and sharply criticizing the plethora of frivolous lawsuits in the American court system, Bork filed a frivolous lawsuit against a private club for negligence a few years ago? Link

Hypocritical douchebag is hypocritical.
 
2011-10-25 09:38:06 AM
the_vegetarian_cannibal: Anyone else pointed out yet that after a lifetime of being a "strict constructionist" and sharply criticizing the plethora of frivolous lawsuits in the American court system, Bork filed a frivolous lawsuit against a private club for negligence a few years ago? Link

Hypocritical douchebag is hypocritical.


The Right understands that Leaders do not need to follow the moral codes enacted for the Followers.
 
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