You said 'citizen' twice.

I doubt you like citizens.

Pick up that can.

fusillade762: AbbeySomeone: Nice..
I'd say she shouldn't have opened the door, but they most likely would have kicked it in.

Probably. Why they couldn't have simply asked her to step outside with the kids while they searched the house is beyond me.

Are you seriously suggesting that the police act with courtesy and understanding? In the US? Please.

It broke my heart the day I had the "Don't Talk To The Police" discussion with my kids. Never, ever, ever thought I'd have to do so. What the fark have we let ourselves become?

What's the over/under on how many comments into this before the first "cops were in the right/what's the problem" post?

She wants the police to fix the house? I doubt any of them know how to do anything constructive at all.

Sometimes stuff is damaged that belongs to innocent people. The best way to deal with these things is to apologize as soon as it is apparent that the suspect is not in the house. Simply saying "I'm sorry" right away goes a long, long way to making amends.

Then empower street level supervisors to spend up to $1K to fix things, broken windows, broken doors, things like that. Let the supervisor call a locksmith or a board up company to make immediate -even if temporary- repairs. If needed put them up for 3 days in a nice hotel, the Hyatt or something like that not Motel 6. Sure the place they live in my be Motel 6 quality, but you did just improperly smash their door down, let them hit the minibar for fifty bucks. Then have someone from risk management arrange the permanent repairs, and give them a little bonus, a nicer lock on the door, or double pane windows, sure it may cost a hundred bucks more but the good will is priceless.

When I was a cop in Tampa I stopped and detained a guy who matched the description of someone in a BOLO for armed robbery. The guy was nice enough, but I had to handcuff him and put him in my car for half an hour or so until we could do a go by with the victim. The guy was completely innocent, but had been inconvenienced by the cops and was now late for work.

I drove him to work and told his boss he was helping us solve a robbery. Then later that night I ate there with my Corporal, we shook hands with the guy and his boss, and it became a regular place for the cops to eat. We inconvenienced the guy, but we did our best to explain the situation in person to his boss so he didn't get in trouble, a little extra business for the diner, and we would slide by for a coffee (we always paid - and we really just wanted a clean bathroom to use) and say hi to the boss and the guy in the kitchen. Apologizing to the guy and his boss right away were imperative, to street the guy to walk to work and be even later without talking to his boss would have been wrong.

this is bullshiat. i pitched "extreme makeover: home invasion edition" a couple of years back and never got a call-back, and these assholes are getting it done and collecting a city paycheck on the side.

dudemanbro: She wants the police to fix the house? I doubt any of them know how to do anything constructive at all.

They can create evidence from whole cloth and fleece the citizenry at a profit.

fusillade762: dahmers love zombie: What the fark have we let ourselves become?

A police state? But wait, there's more! Now presenting Rent-a-thug:

Wall Street Corporations Rent Their Own NYPD Unit From The City Of New York (new window)

do you have a real source for that? it's f*cked up, but i'm not sure i can trust "disinformation" quoting "counterpunch"

Bloody typical, they've gone back to metric without telling us.

What. The fark? San Jose has jurisdiction and can use force in Stockton, a town two hours away?

This sounds like a gang hit, not a police action. That bothers me more than the typical "wrong house/too much force" issue. Wonder what the Stockton PD has to say about that...

Charlie Freak: This sounds like a gang hit, not a police action.

Exactly right. HA sympathizer? That's a house ruinin'.

Something is seriously farked up here. Either the article is misleading and the Stockton PD executed the warrant, or San Jose PD is pulling some major shiat.

I have never heard of a city PD utterly invading the jurisdiction of a large city 70 miles and three counties away. If that happened up here, my state would be torn asunder - pitchforks, tar, feathers, and long rifles.

thomps: fusillade762: dahmers love zombie: What the fark have we let ourselves become?

A police state? But wait, there's more! Now presenting Rent-a-thug:

Wall Street Corporations Rent Their Own NYPD Unit From The City Of New York (new window)

do you have a real source for that? it's f*cked up, but i'm not sure i can trust "disinformation" quoting "counterpunch"
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No, it's true. I didn't read the link, but I know they have arrest powers, but if they get hurt, or sued, they're on their own, and the department will not defend them in the event of any misdeeds.
It's done quite a bit. The department gets an "administrative" fee, and the cops get $37 an hour.

It's done all over.
There is a CVS pharmacy in Abany NY, that has an Albany cop there every minute they're open, and it's not because the department thought CVS needed any more protection than any other business in the city.

thomps: fusillade762: dahmers love zombie: What the fark have we let ourselves become?

A police state? But wait, there's more! Now presenting Rent-a-thug:

Wall Street Corporations Rent Their Own NYPD Unit From The City Of New York (new window)

do you have a real source for that? it's f*cked up, but i'm not sure i can trust "disinformation" quoting "counterpunch"

Quite a number of places do this. It's a way for police to decrease the cost of securing high-crime places and the places that hire them get security with actual arrest powers. Drugs, jewelry, and electronics stores do it quite commonly You'll also find it at almost every state college with their own police force - the school has organizations hire the police as security for their events

Isolated incident.

something something war on something....meh, dancing with stars is on.

dahmers love zombie: fusillade762: AbbeySomeone: Nice..
I'd say she shouldn't have opened the door, but they most likely would have kicked it in.

Probably. Why they couldn't have simply asked her to step outside with the kids while they searched the house is beyond me.

Are you seriously suggesting that the police act with courtesy and understanding? In the US? Please.

It broke my heart the day I had the "Don't Talk To The Police" discussion with my kids. Never, ever, ever thought I'd have to do so. What the fark have we let ourselves become?

Yeah, when i was a kid, i was taught that if i was ever in trouble to find a policeman. No way in hell i'll be telling my kids that.

indylaw: They'll also claim immunity based on the grounds that being a cop is hard and you have to make hard decisions.