While one person saying something dumb doesn't invalidate or represent the whole movement (which I fully support), that is pretty facepalm-ish. Almost to the point that I might question the person's true motivation, but I have no proof so we'll just leave it at that and chalk it up to stupidity.

+1 to subby for the misleading trolly headline though.

R.A.Danny: birchman: While one person saying something dumb doesn't invalidate or represent the whole movement (which I fully support), that is pretty facepalm-ish.

You gotta admit, anyone from either side that can't laugh at that is dead inside.

Yeah, apparently she didn't get the memo.

Since when was OWS about the common people getting something for nothing? It's about Wall st corruption,money in politics and having the tax burden shifted onto the poor and middle class and away from those at the top. It's about corporations controlling everything. it's about them taking money from taxpayers to pay their gambling debts. And not using their money to create jobs but to actually balloon things like oil prices and food prices.

Fail to the submitter. Fail to those who fall for the spin the media and pols are putting on it.

GreenAdder: Hobodeluxe: the media

It always kind of skeeves me when I see "the media" as a singular entity. You see that thing with all the buttons in front of you? That's called a keyboard. Congratulations. You're now "the media."

/Don't hate the media. Be the media.

yes I agree that I can be a voice in the wilderness but you know exactly what I was talking about. I'm talking about the establishment news media like the NY Daily News. I'm talking about the networks and the newspapers.

I went down to my local Occupy protest just the other day. I got a tent and a sleeping bag... it is SO easy to steal from these people!

This one's got my vote for trolliest headline on the main page for the year.

GreenAdder: Hobodeluxe: the media

It always kind of skeeves me when I see "the media" as a singular entity. You see that thing with all the buttons in front of you? That's called a keyboard. Congratulations. You're now "the media."

/Don't hate the media. Be the media.

Sweet, media passes.

WillyChase: This one's got my vote for trolliest headline on the main page for the year.

That's like choosing a wife or favorite child. Something better can easily show up.

birchman: While one person saying something dumb doesn't invalidate or represent the whole movement (which I fully support), that is pretty facepalm-ish. Almost to the point that I might question the person's true motivation, but I have no proof so we'll just leave it at that and chalk it up to stupidity.

+1 to subby for the misleading trolly headline though.

That is exactly the farking point though. By having no stated agenda and no list of grievances, each protestor is simply protesting whatever random thing crosses their head. The people who say they "agree" with OWS might as well be agreeing with a wall, because there's no agenda or ideology to disagree with. If you go into an OWS rally and decide you're there because you want falconry to be banned, then BAM-- you fancy yourself as having a whole park full of allies. It's pure strategic brilliance on behalf of whoever is funding OWS-- you can't lose support if you don't stand for anything. You can't accomplish anything either, but it IS diverting headlines from Obama's various failures, which may be the whole goal. The resemblance to his 2008 campaign-- platitudes without policy-- is uncanny.

archichris: fusillade762: I went down to my local Occupy protest just the other day. I got a tent and a sleeping bag... it is SO easy to steal from these people!

Isnt the definition of a cooperative: A group of people stealing from each other.....

No.

Interestingly, the issue of homelessness is becoming more real for many of the OWS folks - Link

Feed and arm them. We fold the crazies into our shock and berserker regimens.

FunkOut: A lot homeless people suffer from mental illness to some degree. Complaining that they showed up and got free food is like blaming a hungry dog for eating the sandwich you left unattended on the coffee table. This doesn't include homeless young people who are homeless because it's so wickedly punk rock to do so and/or believe crusty living giving you more authentic looking dreadlocks.

IMO, if the OWS'ers feed the homeless, at least they would have gotten something done.

Finally, the relief squad shows up. At least these special teams occupiers are trained to deal with the cold that's about to set in on New York.

They need to start their warm-up for the next inning.

/yeah mixed-sports metaphors

Hobodeluxe: Since when was OWS about the common people getting something for nothing? It's about Wall st corruption,money in politics and having the tax burden shifted onto the poor and middle class and away from those at the top. It's about corporations controlling everything. it's about them taking money from taxpayers to pay their gambling debts. And not using their money to create jobs but to actually balloon things like oil prices and food prices.

Fail to the submitter. Fail to those who fall for the spin the media and pols are putting on it.

Thank you, nice to see some understand what is going on. Roger Ebert has an excellent essay on this very subject, good read that points out just how bloody idiotic the Tea Losers are - Link (new window)

Yo Dawg, I put freeloaders in your freeloaders.

I'm sure this is just a tea part plant.

I'm doing this right, right? They're the ones blame every racist sign or moron in their group on left wing plants sent in to make them look bad.

Weaver95: Hobodeluxe: Fail to the submitter. Fail to those who fall for the spin the media and pols are putting on it.

this is just the latest Limbaugh talking point - he was mocking the protesters and calling them commies on saturday.

It astonishes me that people actually listen to Rush.

dudemanbro: You know who started the modern homeless problem in this country by gutting social services? Reagan.

So we've had three years of Obama, in two of which he had unassailable majorities in both houses of Congress. Why didn't he put back what Reagan "gutted"? Especially since he managed to blow hundreds of billions on every other pet cause that's near and dear to Democrats.

The answer is that we've got legions of homeless because the ACLU and other rights organizations sued to overturn the involuntary commitment laws, dumping those people on the street, not Reagan "gutting" social services, which at the time were largely furnished by the states anyway, not the feds.

Not that any of that will change your mind, but I'm tired of the leftie mythologizing being endlessly repeated and coming to be accepted as fact when it's just plain bullshiat.

Sabyen91: So...they are like teabaggers?

I was actually never clear WTF they were on about either. It's apparently easy to give a group a snappy name and get people to rally around your banner for whatever random thing they're annoyed at. I suppose that's inevitable in a country of 300 million, high unemployment and social networking.

No we aren't. Nice try, MSM.

Well tea baggers would come for the free food too, except that OWS people are such commoners.

Forced Perspective: It's pure strategic brilliance on behalf of whoever is funding OWS

I like how you slipped that in there. Didn't realize that those were salaried positions.