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(NPR)   White southern Republicans lament the loss of Latino migrant workers. I love it when a cunning plan comes together   (npr.org) divider line 391
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2011-10-24 09:51:17 AM
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this picture speaks a thousand words.
 
2011-10-24 09:55:32 AM
Maybe nobody wants to cave and start doing the Okie thing just yet. It wasn't good for us the last time around.
 
2011-10-24 09:59:52 AM
There's growing pressure for the state to create its own guest worker program, but the Alabama legislature doesn't go back into session until February.

Maybe the legislators can work on the farms, since they have the next 4 months off.
 
2011-10-24 10:00:41 AM
Racism has consequences.
 
2011-10-24 10:00:42 AM

sweetmelissa31: There's growing pressure for the state to create its own guest worker program, but the Alabama legislature doesn't go back into session until February.

Maybe the legislators can work on the farms, since they have the next 4 months off.


oh, snap!
 
2011-10-24 10:05:59 AM
Apparently they never watched A Day Without a Mexican...
 
2011-10-24 10:07:20 AM
This is what we call a "teachable moment."

Keep believing those lies and voting against your own interests, Republicans.
 
2011-10-24 10:09:05 AM
Peturis says he's a Republican, but is no fan of Republican Gov. Robert Bentley's plan to get jobs for out-of-work Alabamians by passing the nation's toughest immigration law. Among other things, it calls for police to detain suspects if there's reasonable suspicion they are in the country illegally.

Peturis says he's tried to hire through the state unemployment office before, but didn't have much success.

"Two of them left in 30 minutes; didn't even tell us they [were] going to leave," Peturis says. "One worked an hour and says it was too hard on his back."




Bet you could get some mexicans to work for you. Oh wait you cant. Righteous politics won out on that one, that every damn one of you voted for. And the local yokel unemployeds dont want any part of it, too hard this farmer work. Guess you can try and bribe the local teens into doing it, good luck with that. Whats left, prison labor?
 
2011-10-24 10:10:05 AM
If you follow Republican economic policies, of which this is one as they tout the "Jobs it will create for Americans", they will take you to an early grave.

Unless you are going to force those lazy city folk to work in the fields, you have GOT to let these people get the labor they need to conduct business.

All the jingoistic statements and bumper stickers in the world won't make your utopian dream of people on unemployment checks going to the fields. It just ain't gonna happen. Grow up.
 
2011-10-24 10:10:06 AM
A $5.5 billion agriculture industry is now at stake, but Oden said it is not up to the state to reverse the law, but the federal government to come up with an answer

They drive all the migrant labor out of the state with poorly thought out reactionary legislation, and then want the Feds to do something about it?

Unbelievable.
 
2011-10-24 10:11:30 AM
Georgia had the same issue earlier in the year.

If this keeps up we will find out the true cost of putting a salad on the table. It's about time we did that.
 
2011-10-24 10:12:55 AM

Marcus Aurelius: A $5.5 billion agriculture industry is now at stake, but Oden said it is not up to the state to reverse the law, but the federal government to come up with an answer

They drive all the migrant labor out of the state with poorly thought out reactionary legislation, and then want the Feds to do something about it?

Unbelievable.


IOKIYAR.
 
2011-10-24 10:13:24 AM
A $5.5 billion agriculture industry is now at stake, but Oden said it is not up to the state to reverse the law, but the federal government to come up with an answer.

"Look, we need a federal program, a migrant program that we can apply in our state and get these skilled laborers to stay and help these people out," he said.


Alabama Republican Party Planning Meeting: Let's act tough on immigration and chase out all of the immigrants who work on our farms, then look to the feds to bail out the state with money to bus in immigrants to work on the farms, then we can yell at the Democrats for spending too much money AND being soft on illegal immigration AND for shipping in people to take the jobs from citizens.

Great planning guys
 
2011-10-24 10:14:22 AM
Vodka Zombie [TotalFark] Quote 2011-10-24 10:07:20 AM
This is what we call a "teachable moment."

Keep believing those lies and voting against your own interests, Republicans.


Ample examples of recent history show you cannot teach Republicans.
 
2011-10-24 10:16:00 AM
I seem to recall that there was a lot of anti-immigrant sentiment during the great depression, so we chased them out then too. There was work, but none of the employers wanted to pay a living wage, so it just made things worse for the people out there picking fruit just to have some money coming in.

We've become too dependent on cheap foreign labor and cheap foreign goods. It's going to be a hard habit to break.
 
2011-10-24 10:19:43 AM
And the moral here is, those of us in blue states with local farming still hanging on: Support it. Buy at farmers markets, join local farm co-ops, buy locally sourced vegetables and meat. There is no reason Washington State for instance is shipping stuff up from Alabammy when we can grow it right here.

Support your neighbor farms. Screw the red state racists.
 
2011-10-24 10:28:36 AM

Generation_D: Support your neighbor farms. Screw the red state racists.


i must say i find it awfully hard to feel sorry for these crackers.
 
2011-10-24 10:32:41 AM

FlashHarry: sweetmelissa31: There's growing pressure for the state to create its own guest worker program, but the Alabama legislature doesn't go back into session until February.

Maybe the legislators can work on the farms, since they have the next 4 months off.

oh, snap!


That snap was so damn loud my monitor cracked.
 
2011-10-24 11:00:05 AM
"You have to pay them higher wages, you have to find them a place to live, you have to construct somewhere to live and it has to be approved by the government," he said. "That's tough. We don't have a lot of disposable income to be spending on such a thing."

Well maybe you should have thought of that before you went all high and mighty enforcing your idea of immigration policy, you effing piece of dumb red state republican crap.

Its rare you get such simple cause and effect but I'm positive they will find a way to blame Obama and claim they are the victims.

To paraphrase a bumper sticker from the 70s: If you want to talk about the American Farm (worker), don't talk with your mouth full.

dumbasses. 30 years of believing your own crap, finally coming home to roost.
 
2011-10-24 11:00:24 AM
i51.tinypic.com
 
2011-10-24 11:06:26 AM
Oh look, the thing we all said was going to happen is happening.
 
2011-10-24 11:09:40 AM
I would argue the following: The Mexican migrants are more "American" in work ethic than your own idiot unemployed, or you either. You guys act more like entitled landowners, which in fact you are. The fact the Mexicans have to break our laws to come here and work, and do so willingly despite the risk, tells me they are more worthy of "the American Dream" than any of you so called patriotic asshats.

Good luck training the local meth addicts and prison parolees to do your farm work, racist idiots. And don't come crying to the government to bail you out. That'd be ... whats the word ... socialist.
 
2011-10-24 11:11:27 AM
"Keep them flat-footed goombahs in Washington outa my business!"
"Hurry up with my federal bail-out check!"
 
2011-10-24 11:19:26 AM
You know what would almost be hilarious? It would be totally wrong, but just to fark over these morons, it should happen:

The court or government that rules on this should go "Meh, states' rights." and just let the law stand.
 
2011-10-24 11:20:14 AM
They got what they asked for. Maybe all of the right wingers can all band together and go help these people out. I mean, show all of us communist marxist Liberals what bootstraps are for. Start a new movement like #Occupyaplow

I think it is awesome that they want the Fed to bail them out now. If I were Obama I would actually help them and make a big deal about doing so. Put on the blame on the racist Republican agenda and scold them like the petulant children they are.
 
2011-10-24 11:23:13 AM
Oh look, southerners are complaining about their economy being damaged by their inability to exploit their workforce. Haven't seen that before.
 
2011-10-24 11:24:33 AM

Marcus Aurelius: A $5.5 billion agriculture industry is now at stake, but Oden said it is not up to the state to reverse the law, but the federal government to come up with an answer

They drive all the migrant labor out of the state with poorly thought out reactionary legislation, and then want the Feds to do something about it?

Unbelievable.


We need the Federal Government to stay out of our lives until we fark up.
 
2011-10-24 11:25:05 AM
Alabama: A Study of Racism's Effects on the Economy

I smell a Nobel!
 
2011-10-24 11:30:26 AM
so, georgia and alabama. who's next on the cutting-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face list?
 
2011-10-24 11:30:50 AM
The lack of a conservative presence in this thread is.....predictable.
 
2011-10-24 11:35:11 AM

birchman: The lack of a conservative presence in this thread is.....predictable.


fair point. where are the usual wharrgarblers?
 
2011-10-24 11:39:10 AM

FlashHarry: fair point. where are the usual wharrgarblers?


They must be out in the fields
 
2011-10-24 11:42:25 AM

birchman: The lack of a conservative presence in this thread is.....predictable.


Conservatives are to this thread as Mexicans are to...
 
2011-10-24 11:44:59 AM

sweetmelissa31: "There's growing pressure for the state to create its own guest worker program, but the Alabama legislature doesn't go back into session until February."

Maybe the legislators can work on the farms, since they have the next 4 months off.


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I wholeheartedly endorse this event, idea or product.
 
2011-10-24 11:45:22 AM
Hunh so it turns out legal immigrant workers don't like racial profiling any better than illegal immigrant workers do. What a shock.

The invisible hand of the free market is about vivibly to adjust the price of produce in Alabama.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2011-10-24 11:50:01 AM
Gee, now they'll have to pay a fair wage instead of slave labor wages.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2011-10-24 11:55:12 AM
Alabama had this problem once before, when they lost all their cheap labor. They could solve it the same way this time:

Link (new window)
 
2011-10-24 11:55:53 AM

quickdraw: Huh so it turns out legal immigrant workers don't like racial profiling any better than illegal immigrant workers do. What a shock.


That's part of it, although there are other factors- The legal farm workers know that without the illegals the work load is going to be 10 times bigger, and the farmers are going to pressure them to work 20 hour days.

Also, a lot of the legals are friends and relatives to illegals. If most of your community leaves the state, you seriously consider following them.
 
2011-10-24 12:03:09 PM
This article reminds me of a recent South Park episode.
 
2011-10-24 12:05:25 PM

Dinki: Also, a lot of the legals are friends and relatives to illegals. If most of your community leaves the state, you seriously consider following them.


Exactly. These are families - not roving bands of strawberry picking mercenaries.
 
2011-10-24 12:07:05 PM

quickdraw: Dinki: Also, a lot of the legals are friends and relatives to illegals. If most of your community leaves the state, you seriously consider following them.

Exactly. These are families - not roving bands of strawberry picking mercenaries.


Good, hardworking, Christian familes even.
 
2011-10-24 12:07:09 PM
"You have to pay them higher wages, you have to find them a place to live, you have to construct somewhere to live and it has to be approved by the government," he said. "That's tough. We don't have a lot of disposable income to be spending on such a thing."

You libtards are all conveniently ignoring this.

The problem is too much government regulation. OSHA laws, environmental laws, federal mandated minimum wages, child labor rules, and a billion other unnecessary federal laws have made it too costly for American farmers to compete. All of these things would be non issues if we let the free market operate as God intended.
 
2011-10-24 12:09:42 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: "You have to pay them higher wages, you have to find them a place to live, you have to construct somewhere to live and it has to be approved by the government," he said. "That's tough. We don't have a lot of disposable income to be spending on such a thing."

You libtards are all conveniently ignoring this.

The problem is too much government regulation. OSHA laws, environmental laws, federal mandated minimum wages, child labor rules, and a billion other unnecessary federal laws have made it too costly for American farmers to compete. All of these things would be non issues if we let the free market operate as God intended.


I bet you get bites.
 
2011-10-24 12:11:59 PM
If they just had some slaves everything would be alright again.
 
2011-10-24 12:14:33 PM

birchman: The lack of a conservative presence in this thread is.....predictable.


Sorry, I was out finding a migrant worker to help me repaint my home. I get vertigo when I am on a ladder for too long.

It is funny to watch this happening in Alabamer. The whole nation is watching and the last holdouts are finally going to have to admit the immigrants are needed. I thank Alabama for this.

That is my take on it.
 
2011-10-24 12:15:20 PM

quickdraw: These are families - not roving bands of strawberry picking mercenaries.


I love this phrase so hard.
 
2011-10-24 12:25:05 PM

serial_crusher: Oh look, southerners are complaining about their economy being damaged by their inability to exploit their workforce. Haven't seen that before.


whoa.. whoa... dude you said something intelligent. *shocked*
 
2011-10-24 12:26:42 PM
Just like the GOP said, there are jobs out there, but the unemployed are too lazy to find work when they can keep collecting their unemployment checks.
 
2011-10-24 12:26:44 PM

Generation_D: Bet you could get some mexicans to work for you. Oh wait you cant. Righteous politics won out on that one, that every damn one of you voted for. And the local yokel unemployeds dont want any part of it, too hard this farmer work. Guess you can try and bribe the local teens into doing it, good luck with that. Whats left, prison labor?


On the NPR broadcast, prison labor as a solution was briefly mentioned.

swampland.com

The GOP's idea for Alabama's future.
 
2011-10-24 12:27:20 PM
Who would have thought that it would be hard to find legal laborers willing to work their asses off in the hot sun for what often amounts to less than minimum wage?

/Has picked strawberries alongside migrants before.
//At the end of the day my pay worked out to about $4 an hour.
 
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